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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1496880192979181573

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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Is anyone watching Biden's speech right now, and if so, is it just me in thinking that he doesn't sound great right now? Seemed like he's mushing/slurring some words together at points.

Edit: I'm not referring to/making fun of his longtime issues with stuttering.

pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Feb 24, 2022

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

This is metal AF

https://mobile.twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1496866811110834176?s=21

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

psydude posted:

If something positive came out of 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's that the CIA and the Ukrainians they will soon train have some expert experience with IEDs now.

I’m willing to bet that there’s a bunch of small-town Ukrainian machinists who are bewildered but delighted by the nice young men who spoke Ukrainian with an American accent and paid them lots of money after showing them how to use their machines to make large copper discs; same with the fertilizer factory across town who just had their entire supply of ammonium nitrate purchased by the aforementioned nice young men. :nsa:

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Naked Bear posted:

The Javelin is currently the best man-portable anti-tank weapon on planet Earth. Up until now, it hasn't seen much real anti-armor use and certainly not against a near-peer adversary like Russia.

e: I am a slow poster.

There was a SF ODA who fought a battle against T-72s and BMPs during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. IIRC that was their first use in combat and it was readily apparent what a capable weapons system it is. Can only imagine it’s gone through improvements since then that make it even more effective.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

boop the snoot posted:

Cspam is the radical left wing equivalent of TruthMedia or whatever right wing social media utopia Trump wants and tbh cspam existing is a liability to peoples’ mental health and shouldnt exist anymore.

The guy who runs the @goons_txt twitter account (mostly quotes from SA threads describing feats of supreme gooniness) broke character and posted this massive screed against CSPAM yesterday.

Edit: my bad, forgot the twitlonger post

quote:

I have become convinced that C-Spam has essentially become infiltrated by fascists who use left wing talking points and ideology to push people towards fascism.The invasion of the Ukraine by Russia has no excuse under any leftist frame of thought. Putin’s Russia is not a leftist state in any way or form. It functions as a far-right Oligarchic Kleptocracy where the power of the capitalist Oligarchic corporations are protected completely by the state and by all rule of law. It is in no way an effective Democracy, and opposing party members are poisoned or arrested on trumped up charges.Within the school of leftist thought you may claim that functionally the United States is the same, I believe there are quite big differences in terms of having somewhat more open elections and allowing freedom of opposing party members. Eitherway, leftists all agree that nothing about the United States political and economical system is “Good.” How you could point to a foreign economic and political system, which is much more unequal, and extremely worse for the proletariat masses as somehow being better because it opposes Westernism is the height of hypocrisy.The invasion of Iraq was extremely illegal and wrong, but for all it’s bad, at the core of it’s government Sadam Hussein was a dictator that ruled without any elections and without the will of the masses. The only person that directed the nation's policy was him. Alternatively, Ukraine is a nation with an elected president, who represents at least marginally the will of people. The majority of Ukranians want to ally themselves with the west and NATO. Their right to self-determination means they should have every right to do so, just as much as Mexico should have every right to ally itself with China and Russia if its people so desired and elected politicians who would enact such a policy.Beyond that the justification for war is grossly wrong. There may be Neonazi’s active in Ukraine. There are also Neonazi’s active in Russia, in the US, in nearly every country in Europe, in pretty much every country on the globe. The ideology of Russia is not far from the Neonazi, Putin and the Russian Military differ little from Hitler in their overarching ideology, and only in how willing he is to voice his beliefs publicly. Their concepts come directly from fascist books such as The Foundation of Geopolitics. Fascist politicians are extremely influential in Russian politics. Their main goal has been to push fascism throughout the world. On the world stage there can be no doubt. Beyond the Bourgeoisie, Russia represents the old system - From Monarchism to Imperialism to Feudalism. They are not a friend of the working class in any way or form, and the goal of Russia is to retrench the world back towards reactionary ideologies and nationalism by creating an alliance of fascist nationalist states similar to their own.Saying you are invading Ukraine to denazify it is like saying you are invading Chile to decommunize it. Recent elections there did involve a coalition with communist parties, for example.Russians activity in Syria leaves little imagination or justification to the effect that they represent the entrenched upper classes. The Syrian war was essentially a class conflict, brought on by a famine in the countryside that pushed the poor impoverished agricultors into the cities who were summarily ignored by the Syrian Dictator Bashar-Al Assad. The war started due to class conflict between the poor impoverished masses and the capitalist Dictatorship rulers. Russia could have supported left-leaning groups such as the YPG and other organizations focused on improving the conditions of the poor in Syria via socialism. They did not because they do not represent leftism nor are friends of leftists in any way or form. Russia will always side with the bourgeoisie and ruling classes and if you continue to support them and they win they will be happy to enact fascist dictatorships throughout the world.When you defend the invasion of Ukraine you are essentially defending fascism. You are defending a reactionary response to democracy. You are defending Russian Imperialism, Russian Oligarchy, Nationalism and Fascism. There is no way around it.For as much as you may hate NATO and the US or the West there is no defense for Russia and their actions here. There is nothing leftist about this and if members of C-Spam are defending the Russian invasion of the Ukraine they are defending fascism and inviting its spread through Europe, the US and the rest of the world. I have serious doubts that any of the posters who defend these things are actual leftists, if anything I believe they are fascists who have infiltrated the forums long ago and use left-wing talking points to push fascism. We can see that throughout the internet this has been a common tactic used by Fascists on other social media networks and forums.In the days pre-internet, when thought was printed, the spread of news took
forever - and the quantity of opinions was limited. Freedom of speech was essential. Just as with guns, we have evolved, in the past we had invented simple revolvers, and they may be acceptable for some self defense use. But as technology has advanced so have weapons, instead of revolvers we have AR-15s and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of common people who use them in ways that are irresponsible and dangerous. These weapons of mass war don’t belong in the hands of common people. As weapons technology has advanced so has the internet and social media. In this day and age freedom of mass speech and spread of misinformation from groups with very little actual power is as dangerous as a machine-gun.I call on Jeffrey and the rest of SA to either shut down C-SPAM or investigate and ban potentially subversive fascist posters in that forum. They are not doing anyone any good and they are in fact potentially pushing people down a pigeonhole that radicalizes them towards far-right ideologies. I say this from personal experience. This is dangerous.

pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 25, 2022

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

ASAPI posted:

Was it posted as a giant wall of text like that? This seems very unhinged.

That's a formatting thing- it was supposed to be a series of tweets posted in one contiguous thread.

https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/1496938536620146694?s=20&t=z_AZCfSbQTPUJ-MTqznl6Q

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/EBU_HQ/status/1497243831112122368

poo poo’s getting real.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

boop the snoot posted:

I would ask why so many people are willing to die for Putin, but I’d be posting it in a forum full of War on Terror vets.

There was a post up thread suggesting that these soldiers aren’t exactly willing participants- that they were told they were doing military exercises near the border, then forced into signing a new contract acknowledging they were about to invade Ukraine.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/ArmyJew/status/1497594565695614982

I am extremely surprised at how Russia, a country with the enduring national myth of an effective and omnipotent intelligence apparatus, could do badly underestimate the capabilities and morale of the Ukrainian army, its civilian leadership and the people.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Elon Musk is reportedly sending Starlink terminals to Ukraine as Russia appears to be disrupting Internet connectivity there.

This may not be a good thing at all since it can be triangulated and targeted.


https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1497745011932286979

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

So it seems that no matter how you look at it, this war hasn’t exactly worked out well for Russia. They’ve underestimated the capabilities and morale of Ukraine and its people, lost more men and materiel than they likely had anticipated, and still don’t control a single major population center in the country. NATO is acting like more of a defensive alliance in Europe than it has in decades, and many Western countries are working to isolate Russia from the global financial system, which will directly undermine Putin’s support from his elites. Even if Putin is able to grab Kiev, overthrow Zelensky and install a puppet government- how is his strategic position any better than it was before he started the war? No matter what happens, it seems like the big takeaways are “if you’re a neighbor of Russia and not a member of NATO yet, join yesterday” and “increase the capabilities of your armed forces to deter Russian aggression”- neither of which exactly help Moscow, and it also looks like the West will be content to punish Moscow from a political and economic perspective.

If Putin doesn’t achieve his objectives through force and doesn’t get a favorable diplomatic solution, then what does that mean for his political fortunes at home? Does he double down in Ukraine or escalate elsewhere in order to save face?

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008


That first reply

https://twitter.com/Ruslan_Palchuk/status/1498018941469347850?s=20&t=XUhEl_4MhUi3uFNt8xghbA

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Grand Fromage posted:

I may be fooling myself but it's not like Putin has a "nuke" button on his desk that just instantly fires missiles. If he lost it enough to order that, the people below would still have to agree to carry it out and it's hard for me to imagine the generals thinking yeah, let's end Russia and/or civilization over Putin being butthurt that Ukrainians aren't greeting them as liberators. I would think that order would more likely end with no more Putin than an launch.

Here's hoping we don't have to find out, anyway.

Kind of been wondering the same. If Vlad orders a general to open up the canned sunshine over Kyiv, or anywhere else for that matter, I wonder if his generals would carry out the order, or if someone would step up and put him down. And in that case, who takes his place? Who's to say his successor wouldn't be someone who looks at Putin's legacy and thinks that he was too soft?

I'm worrying about second- and third-order effects. Russia's strategic position is going to be worse no matter what the immediate outcome of its war of choice in Ukraine is, and I worry about how they'll react in weeks to come. I'm not some person freaking out because they read a Reddit post about nook-u-ler war, but I also think that we're on pretty uncharted ground right now with no clear outcomes visible.

Not gonna hype BAF and I's dumb little doomsday prepper's thread anymore than it has been in the past few pages, but I'm going to Costco tomorrow and buying more dog food and taking out some cash to put in my safe. I live in DC anyhow, if nukes start flying I'm hopefully dead in the opening milliseconds of what will be the world's shortest and worst war.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008


Lmao

Mine was better

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Confirmed: Ukraine bags one Slavic Crime Yacht.... in Mallorca!

https://twitter.com/iguardans/status/1497982822736437254

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1498316038114623489

You KNOW you hosed up when an organization as corrupt as FIFA is moving to oust your rear end.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1498393087952961541

Someone come get their dumbfuck dad before he gets hurt.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Bored As gently caress posted:


I have my own biases on prepping, and I tend to have a pessimistic view on things, maybe due to my anxiety. Prepping helps allay my fears of not being able to support my family in a disaster, man made or natural. So given these biases that I have, I'm wondering if any of you guys think this guy is unreasonable, or fear-mongering. He's pretty much the least fear mongering, least clickbaity, least chuddy prepping channel on YouTube. But maybe I am allowing my biases to blind me.

Here's his video. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts
https://youtu.be/SCdkemFFvVk

I watched it. Yes, he presents his material in a calm and well thought-out matter and the dude isn't ringing any major Chud alarm bells, but at the end of the day, prepping is His Thing and he's still extrapolating things out to their worst case scenario. The urge to go RAHHHH must prep for everything! is understandable during times of uncertainty, but don't let it become a source of anxiety in and of itself. Unless you have a rural homestead with a storm basement stocked to the rafters (something that probably even 99.9% of the weirdest Doomsday Preppers don't have), there's no way you can be 100% prepared for everything at all times.

All you can really do is be proud of making a concerted effort to keep your family safe in weird times and have faith in what you've already done or are currently doing. This isn't the time for big, sweeping gestures (i.e. buying a bunch of poo poo because I Think I Need It Now) but to keep calm but alert and keep pushing on. I do think that we could be in for some weird weeks ahead, but not as bad as what this guy is saying, but I'm going to continue to try living my life as normally as possible while trusting that everything I've done is enough.

This goes for everyone and not just you, but I'd highly recommend taking a doomscrolling break every now and then. If you don't have one within petting distance, YouTube is full of videos of cute animals.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1498737424729522179

:thejoke:

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Biden says he's sending US troops to defend NATO, not the Ukraine. So what happens if Ukraine is admitted to NATO, under urgency?

That’s not going to happen on any timeline that could affect this conflict. Ukraine (not the Ukraine) applied for fast-track EU membership, which I don’t think has any defensive implications other than that if Putin wanted to isolate Ukraine from the West he couldn’t have hosed it up any more.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Yeah you definitely can’t declare no quarter or no surrenders. That is a very legit war crime.

But surely we can all agree that "we are not death, we are worse" is a pretty metal way to end any piece of correspondence.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Gonna file this one under "This Is Really Bad"

https://twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1499381363010682881

I doubt this is going to break the morale of any Ukrainian insurgency that forms. Publicly creating martyrs for a cause tends to backfire on the occupier.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008


That was extremely pro-click.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

aphid_licker posted:

Right one is maybe a reference to canoeing, a signature ritual corpse mutilation practiced by US SOF?

That’s 100% what it is.

It looks like Forward Observations Group either got banned or deleted their IG account. I wonder what touched that off, but I’ve noticed there seem to be a number of “SOF veteran owned businesses” that seem to get in trouble for hanging out with Nazis.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Looks like Russia finally won a tank battle.

with itself.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1499753688478494721?s=20&t=1E4FpgJRT_7oeQA9YEtJeg

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/RepHoulahan/status/1499740290650890241

I feel like a Democratic rep would know better than to call for something this stupid but it’s 2022 in the worst timeline.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

M_Gargantua posted:

I think reporters maybe got way to comfortable reporting wild weather by stepping into it, and reporting on combat while escorted by US marines, and are now making very bad decisions on where to report from.

I'm going to put more blame on the Russian infantrymen who repeatedly fired on a civilian vehicle. Journalists report from conflict zones with great frequency and often aren't embedded with military units. The Sky News crew looked about as prepared as they could be, clearly they at least had plates that could stop rifle rounds instead of just soft armor. The cameraman looks to have gotten stuck on the dirty side of the vehicle after it got hit, which is a really poo poo place to be. Glad he made it out of there without injury or worse.

edit: the US has had thermobaric AT-4 rounds since at least 2004 and used them in urban combat in Fallujah but obviously there's a world of difference between that and just lobbing massive thermobaric munitions into urban centers.

pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 5, 2022

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Marshal Prolapse posted:

The way it flies, kind of reminds me of the lovely flying saucers, in plan nine from outer space.

Back in like 2014-2015, there were a bunch of Syrian insurgent groups that got hooked up with TOW missiles, and they filmed just about every strike on Assad’s forces. Those guys were even less tactically proficient than the crop of aspiring sunflower seeds currently attacking Ukraine, and it was surreal watching something that looked like a dancing beach ball of death bouncing toward a crowd of massed infantry before seeing a big boom and chunks of people blown everywhere with a few survivors staggering away.

War sucks.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

The western media has been silent about the Azov Battalion (the largest unit in the Ukrainian Army) releasing a video of one of their members cowardly gunning down a soldier from Russia’s de-Nazification force at his most vulnerable moment.

I would spoiler this for :nws: but people need to see the truth.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1500516392763801608

Another Russian jet taken down. When was the last time an invader lost this many aircraft to hostile fire in such a short period of time?

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

maffew buildings posted:

real cool hot takes on how incompetent Russia is while they continue to kill civilians in droves and are working on levelling cities

Dunno if it was my post about their aircraft losses in combat that prompted this but to clarify- I brought this up because of the seemingly huge disconnect between the “Russia has modernized and professionalized its military and will roll over Ukraine in a few days” analysis offered by a lot of Smart People and their much-worse-than-anticipated performance as documented in almost real time.

I don’t think anyone is blind that the overall dynamics of the conflict still favors Russia and that they’ll rely on increasingly brutal tactics to achieve their objectives, but the reality that they’re going to sustain much heavier losses than ever thought is something worth discussing.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Deep breath of fresh air for this thread

https://twitter.com/cbctom/status/1500889930754670596

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

BrotherJayne posted:

Doesn't it refer to the ones that smashed Hungary?

Yeah, it’s about sending the tanks to crush the Hungarian uprising in 1956, not the Fulda Gap. The original “Stalin did nothing wrong” hot take.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

CBJSprague24 posted:

You guys are making me want to revisit my Duolingo German course.

Unrelated, Biden's going to ban Russian oil imports. Cue Chuds simultaneously praising him and whining about gas prices.

Biden is banning Russian oil to raise US gas prices to prevent additional Freedom Convoys from happening. :tinfoil:

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

I’ll take “Aww that’s adorable” for $500, Alex.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1503744554444505093

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

bees everywhere posted:

Completely off-topic and I know you're joking but I would recommend against shooting RPGs for fun in Cambodia or any other country for that matter. If they're poorly maintained they could misfire and it actually happened to someone I knew, he was a good 20 feet away from the people firing it and he still got impaled by something, barely survived and now has a massive vertical scar running from his collarbone to his belly button.

Picturing your friend walking into the local VFW and sitting himself down at a table of vets all 30-40 years older than him, showing them his scar, and saying “I hear ya. Fuckin’ VA wouldn’t recognize this when I got wounded by an RPG in Cambodia.”

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

davecrazy posted:

Isn't their still an insurgency there?

It’s a frozen conflict. Islamist militants hold the border area with Turkey but don’t have the capability to credibly threaten Damascus or take new territory; Assad can’t retake Idlib on his own. The regime was seriously in danger of falling until Russia stepped in back in 2015, which allowed Assad to prop himself back up and gradually retake Aleppo and other cities. Militancy still pops up here and there, especially in Dara’s (where the revolution began) but it’s a different conflict these days.

But man- this war must be going terribly if Putin wants Syrian soldiers. They’re not going to be much use beyond having some Russian commissar tell them to pop their head up and check if that sniper is still hanging around.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

orange juche posted:

Didn't the US do something similar except with infantry forces during a test?

https://youtu.be/YuKMCtna19E

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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Midjack posted:

Nobody will do anything, chemicals got used in Syria and Russia used them in the UK and nothing happened either time. I'd be surprised if anyone did more than finger wagging if Russia popped off a little nuclear weapon inside Ukraine either.

I think there’s a stronger prohibition on the usage of nukes on a global basis than just about any other WMD, and it’d be really drat hard to put that genie back in the bottle once it’s out. Putin may not be a rational actor at this point but I don’t think any of his generals want to be remembered as “the guy who kicked off the 21st century’s first nuclear weapons launch.”

Also as an aside, last night I had a dream I volunteered to fight to Ukraine but kept getting frustrated because only Azov Battalion units wanted to recruit me.

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