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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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I haven't done research into it, but I think a lot of more modern discourse around the bombings is impacted by the nuclear fears (not the right word, but cant thing of a better one) that developed in the following decades.

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Jimmy Smuts posted:

I'm guessing our drones in that area will be escorted by fighters now?

Doing it once in a maybe sorta accident is one thing, doing it again is going to reaaaallly piss people off, which I think they know.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Immediately thought of those too.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

30k dead :stare:

I don't even know what I can compare that to

I think that's killed and wounded.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Computer viking posted:

Oh hi there's more of us. Mine alternate with having to watch myself never getting around to starting some sort of school work, up to the point where it's definitely too late.

I did fine in school, and as far as I can tell I don't have anxiety problems while awake, but it still happens every now and then.

Mine is it's one week after the semester is over and I remember I had a class I signed up for and never went.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Joke Miriam posted:

Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo?

Ukraine has been pretty cagey about their losses and manpower situation, so I think it's hard to say.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Vengarr posted:

Screw trying to defuse all those things one by one. We throw a grenade in there and let the original owners collect the insurance money.

Most insurances in the US don't cover acts of war , would not be suprised if thats true in Ukraine.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

There's a reason my life plan and my apocalypse plan are the same - buy a big block of land somewhere and breed mucho shepherds

Same but rideable goats.

I think it can be done.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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psydude posted:

In case anyone didn't catch it the first time around, that's just in Bakhmut.



Kith posted:

i'm glad you said this because i sure as gently caress didn't, holy macaroni

Shes Not Impressed posted:

A little clarification on the Kirby comment courtesy of Kofman:

https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1653159844512247809?s=20

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Baconroll posted:

Depends on what version they are getting I guess - the export version is only around 155 Miles but 350+ is being quoted for other versions. 350 would be plenty to hit the bridge from well behind the frontline.

Given that the export version is literally made for situations like this, probably the export version.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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American culture is widespread and theres also no shortage of people you can survey or hire to make sure your message hits the right notes.

They are good videos, but people are being weird about them imo.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Handsome Ralph posted:

You can't bring up the Roberts without posting the screwdriver pic.


Im confused by the significance of the screwdriver.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Exterior enemies have a habit of making a divided population unify in the face of said exterior enemy, let alone one that has been mythologied as the big bad for like 50 years.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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mikerock posted:

If we're getting into semantics, a Hilux

Well, only if you want to get technical.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Murgos posted:

I’m having trouble following the implication here. Sure, Power was a mad man. Okay.

However, he seems to be right? If you have a plan that nukes China and your scenario doesn’t involve nuking China then use a different plan. Don’t try to modify that other plan ‘on-the-fly’ to make it work because all the analysis isn’t going to apply and the results aren’t likely to be what you intend.

Unless I am mistaken there was no "Don't Nuke China" plan. Every plan that involved tossing nukes out also had "Nuke China" as part of the plan, which is the what the other quoted is pointing out is hosed up.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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NV was honestly pretty boring, both visually and from a gameplay prospective, I really never understood the hype.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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I read it as SOUP.

Spicy soup

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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shame on an IGA posted:

true to the stereotype of German tourists underestimating the scale of the american west, the most successful POW escape attempt was in the desert outside Phoenix where there was absolutely nowhere to run to.

meanwhile the allied escape tunnels from Stalag Luft III were designed with a complete ducted ventilation system

Yeah the made a canoe, ran to a wash and realized it was dry much of the year and basically gave up.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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PurpleXVI posted:

Clearly what we need to do is make a tank so large and heavily armored that a drone cannot take it out, the bigger the better.

Bolos here we come.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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I imagine it's also easier to move things through a country and use them as an entry point when they themselves are also sending things that way.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

was the russian navy ever a global projector of power outside their sub fleet

like the kuznetsov is mostly a global projector of smoke and drydock company profits

No, they had their nuclear subs but after the Russian Navy got their poo poo kicked in by the Japanese its never really been a global sea power or able to project power navally. Well again outside of the nuke thing.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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PurpleXVI posted:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4597636-democrats-johnson-ukraine-strategy/

So the Reps are absolutely just going to vote for the Israel and maybe Taiwan assistance, and let the remaining two rot, right? There's absolutely no way they're going to honour any deal of this kind, and if they were, there'd be no reason to split it up like this.

My understanding is Johnson is in a tight spot right now due to republican infighting and if he fucks the dems over on this they can pull support from him and theres a non-zero chance he gets ousted.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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PurpleXVI posted:

Wouldn't that just paralyze that section of government for longer and absolutely play into the hands of anyone who wants Ukraine to not get that money? I seem to remember it took a good while to get a new speaker last time, and gently caress all was getting done in the interum.

At a glance, being the Speaker gets you a cool $200k annually on top of the pay for being a member of the House. Someone would have to have a fat load of grift and bribes going on for that to not be a meaningful amount.

Maybe? It really could go either way by galvanizing his supporters and dems to give a big ol middle finger to the other faction, and it's a stupidly risky thing to do during an election year.

It's not a sure fire thing either way and last time it happened the person ousted got to pick his temporary replacement.

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

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Bored As gently caress posted:

Russia is outproducing the US with regards to artillery. Here's a good video on it. I like the host, Chris. He's a good journalist in that he gives you his biases up front and tries to give you unbiased information.

https://youtu.be/UKs1mERKE14?si=8OXfmgMGFDLcrxhU

I mean, is anyone really surprised given the emphasis on massed artillery in Soviet/Russian doctrine, especially when compared to NATO countries that don't really go all in on that?

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