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Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah that's really good context, like I said it can be a very valid reason for you wanting to be involved. It's a thing that's happening. I'm just saying the US government does not care because they do not care about genocide on it's own, are happy to let their allies commit them, and are happy to commit their own so if someone is questioning why the US is involved they're not jumping to loving genocide and really wanting to see it happen. Can't even see how destroying imperialist tanks and other armed forces is a goal in an of itself, what a worthless "anti-imperialist".
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some plague rats posted:It... seems like your argument is that it's actually okay if sanctions kill a bunch of the poorest and most vulnerable people in society, because if they didn't, something else would? I must be misunderstanding because that would an absolutely psychotic argument to put forward but I'm honestly unclear on how else to interpret this? The poorest and most vulnerable people suffer in any anti-imperialist effort. There's not a solution to imperialist powers that doesn't somehow kill the poorest and most vulnerable of those societies. A people's war involves killing the enlisted men of an imperialist power. The psycho, the fake anti-imperialist, imo, is the one who believes it is more important that no one die than that imperialism be stopped. And yes, the US should have been sanctioned for invading Iraq- it's the only not-military measure that would've made a difference. Bothering a few rich people wouldn't have been sufficient to shut down supply chains and make it difficult to fight a war. It wasn't, and that was a bad thing, but at least some invader is getting hammered for it.
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LionArcher posted:Holy poo poo, it’s worse in here than I remember. Like drat. All three of them perjured themselves. He also is a rapist. That among other reasons is why they’re illegitimate. Honestly, I think the discussion would be better if you weren't just assuming what you said was true, and trying to out-mad everyone else about what's going on. There's not a lot of interesting discussion to be had about how hoppin' mad you should be that this bad thing happened.
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May 10, 2022 11:53
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I read the manifesto and the ideological parts feel like copypaste stuff, but then that's kind of how internet homogenization works with ideology. The cranks just aren't that interesting any more because they all get together to put their stories together. Most of it is a bunch of screenshots, likely pulled off of 4chan to talk about how racism is good, actually.
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May 15, 2022 10:48
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TipTow posted:Which, as I said, was among the best returns for him in the nation. Do you have a point to make, or merely the snarky white noise? Debs' relative success in Oklahoma comes off of its heavy sharecropping economy in that period. It's a pretty slim level of relative success, but generally, the base for socialists in the rural areas in this period was sharecroppers. This is no longer the case. Indeed, if you read Debs' speeches, he does sound like a preacher, but then so did most every politician at that time. There's a tendency in online discourse, I think, to just kind of assume that the political lean that you have is the one everyone else secretly has and that it's the one that will win elections. I'm not sure there's a substantive way to win Oklahoma in a way that captures the religion of the area that doesn't cause unacceptable compromises in more core areas. Historically, the Socialist party did best relative to the population in New York, and there was a period where they could win elections fairly consistently in NYC, even sending a US House rep.
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May 20, 2022 11:23
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Srice posted:Republicans are gonna be hypocrites over the 1/6 hearings but at the end of the day if hypocrisy were a detriment at all Trump would never have become president. Yeah, never underestimate the worthlessness of pointing out hypocrisy. No one cares any more, if they ever did.
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Jun 9, 2022 18:54
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Lib and let die posted:The title of the featured art is "The Four Horsemen" This just sounds like boilerplate doomposting that has no new insight you couldn't see in 20 billion other twitter posts.
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Lib and let die posted:That's a pretty...interesting way to wave off the piece. You are aware that Mr. Hedges has worked for years within the prison system, putting in the hard yards and long hours trying to reform the system and its outcomes from within? I read the piece. I judge the piece based on its content, and it's pretty much all rhetoric. I'm sure Chris Hedges has done good work, but this really isn't it. "objectively correct" can't really describe what he says because it's such pulled-back rhetoric. It's pure speechwriting, and the same script that's been around for the past 6-8 years. I don't see any new or fresh insight here.
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