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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Considering the Big Four networks (yes, Fox included) are covering this, I expect this to make a bigger impact than what the average D&D poster expects, which is to say I think there will be an impact.

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Edward Mass
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I mean, if 70% of the Republican base aren’t going to be swayed no matter what, then you still have 30% you can reach. That’s a lot of voters!

Edward Mass
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This first hearing met my expectations. Considering the made-for-TV aspect, I’d expect the fifth hearing (or whatever the next-to-last one is) to be the one where the committee drops what they think is their biggest bombshell. I would’ve preferred all the hearings to be in prime time, but nobody ever cares about episodes 2 & 3 in a miniseries.

Edward Mass
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Dr. Faustus posted:

Saving the best for last today and a prefect cliffhanger for hearing six!

There could be a seventh hearing!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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"They have weapons, [but] they're not there to hurt me". :drat:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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:lol: Trump wanted to go to the insurrection, but walk to the Capital?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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It's all they got.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Svanja posted:

Was this shown on Fox? I'm working on a project and didn't get a chance to check.

Big Fox or Fox News?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Trump is an iron lung for a large swath of the Republican party's elected persons. Yes, he's keeping the Tiki torch lit, but I can't see any big movement one way or the other with regards to election results for as long as he's the face of the party. People point to the economy as the Democrats' undoing, but I'd point out how the economy was in a much better place in 2018 and the GOP couldn't keep the House.

Now, if Trump is indited, all bets are off.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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TulliusCicero posted:

That's apparently on Friday. Does that mean Deputy Press Secretary is on Tuesday next week now?

Sarah Matthews has been confirmed for July 12th, but unless she's got Cassidy Hutchinson-level information I could see the committee squeezing in some Cippollone tape.

One thing I've got to say that I don't think has received enough love is the editing of the multimedia during the hearings. These things would be deadly to sit through if they didn't have the ability to cue up various videos and sounds.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Considering that none of the insurrectionists have yet to be charged with treason and instead with sedition and seditious conspiracy, I HIGHLY doubt the Trumpster gets charged with treason. Even if he did (and this is a high bar - only about 30 people in US history have been charged with treason), no one has ever been executed from a conviction of treason by the federal court. I know there's a first time for everything, but I think the absolute most we can hope for is two dimes and the forfeiture of holding public office again.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

The Rosenbergs were convicted of espionage, not treason.

And IIRC Brown was convicted of treason again specifically the Commonwealth of Virginia, not the United States which was a different state charge since technically nothing he did was a federal crime.

Yeah, that's why I specified federal court.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Tomorrow’s hearing has been moved to 1 P.M. Eastern, which is good for all of us not in the Eastern Time Zone.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The hearing scheduled for Thursday has been postponed, but is still planned to be in primetime.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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BigBallChunkyTime posted:

What's with all the drat delays?

APPARENTLY, they need time to process all the new information from Cipollone, and the plans for a hearing on July 14th weren't actually finalized.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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If anything, this process has shown how loving hard it is to indite a former U.S. President. A smoking gun isn't enough, you need video of the bullet leaving the gun and multiple witnesses just to get some people to say "yeah, maybe there WAS a crime".

Not that it would be a good idea to make it easier. That was be problematic.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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There's a difference between being unethical (but legal) and breaking the law. Trump did both, but you can't arrest him for being a terrible human being. If he had accepted the 2020 election results and the January 6 attack didn't happen, he'd almost certainly spend the rest of his life a free man.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Milo Auckerman’s not going to be happy about that guy’s shirt!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Eighth hearing set for July 21st, still planned for primetime. Bennie Thompson says it's the last one....for now.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The January 6th hearings have made one thing clear: a large swath of Republicans want to memory-hole Trump like they did George W. Bush post-2008. The difference here is that there is a perhaps equal swath of Republicans who believe whenever Trump's not on screen, other characters should ask "Where's Poochie Trump?" The more these hearings reveal poo poo, the more likely there is a split in the GOP over Trump. Not Trumpism, mind you, but Trump himself.

This is why I'm not a doomer with regards to the mid-terms - the Republican Party by-and-large can't decide how much of Trump the person they want. It's why Kevin McCarthy wants fellow Republicans to stop talking about him and focus on inflation for the election. Remember during the Cassidy Hutchinson testimony the Congressional Republicans Tweeted that gas was $5/gallon?* They don't want to deal with the fact the guy did crimes. HOWEVER, Trump is not like Bush post-presidency, because he can't fade into the ether. That's just not his style.

The Democrats are in the odd position of having red (blue?) meat for an election cycle, and the more the committee shows happened on January 6th the harder it is for the American public to deny, deflect, or double-down. Hell, the Washington Examiner, one of the most Trumpy tabloids there is, had an op-ed that said "yeah, Trump's guilty". The literal Identity Crisis won't lead them to ruin, but it can dampen overall intraparty feelings.

The election's in November. Who the gently caress knows what's going to happen between now and then?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1549917096469233664

For those unable or unwilling to click the link, the committee has outtakes of Trump's message to the rioters.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Why wait til September? They risk losing momentum and interest.

They have to organize and edit all the new information they’re getting.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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WE WANT OUTTAKES

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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“But obviously, I think you know.”

:drat:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Using Kevin McCarthy’s words against him is good poo poo.

Edward Mass
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Here we go

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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OUTTAKES

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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More McCarthy!!!!!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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TulliusCicero posted:

HOLY poo poo THEY SAID IT

they accused him directly of the attack

I’m surprised it’s not the closing statement, but there’s always One More Thing…. :pray:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I’d like to thank Liz Cheney for throwing away a career of being a regressive shithead in Congress for the chance of getting Trump sent up the river.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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This MIGHT be an important development:

https://twitter.com/arawnsley/status/1554903595258191872

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Nelson Mandingo posted:

I was watching this live and it was glorious. The platiniff's lawyers locked it up. He was even on a hot mic in the break after throwing this down "Here is something nobody has thought about yet. What happens when law enforcement gets their hands on this phone?" Because it shows he's been lying and hiding his financials, his testimony during the trial, his employees were lying, and so on.

It's literally doomsday for Alex Jones. He's losing a lot of money at best, and going to prison at worst.

And I'm glad those January 6th folks move fast. Because this is 2 years worth of texts and emails so it covers January 6th.

Not only does it cover January 6, it covers the build-up to the 2020 election. I'd almost certainly guarantee there's Steve Bannon-level premeditation for crimes there.

Edward Mass
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Jaxyon posted:

This has been happening out in the open by rich white men for years. People understand that it doesn't apply to these guys already. They don't think it should. They like these people. As long as it applies to the poor brown people who they hate, they will be fine with the rich white men getting a different justice system.

The court system already know it's a joke for which white politically connected men. That being true is how a bunch of them got their jobs.

I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

He's already been found guilty - this is a civil trial to determine how much he owes.

Edward Mass
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Have there been any announcements regarding new January 6 hearings? It's September, when they said they'd get back to us.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Here's the thing about polls - they are a snapshot of the electorate at a given moment in time. Until election day, peoples' minds can change and nobody wins or loses. Saying that a poll is or was more correct at a different period of a cycle is disingenuous unless you have proof there has been deliberate miscalculations.

Edward Mass
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https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1573833376775151616

In case you were worried.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1574841926234378257

Tomorrow's hearing is postponed due to Hurricane Ian.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Mark your calendars!

https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1578062226832891906

Edward Mass
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"We'll have to start smashing pumpkins, if you know what I mean".

:stare:

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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:siren: Subpoena to Trump incoming :siren:

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