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I definitely, absolutely believe they're trying to get the inflation rate down but also that the only tool they're interested in using is depressing wages, which is something they themselves have also said, so yes I expect they will keep going up on account of everybody in the Fed being Austrian economics idiots
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FlamingLiberal posted:As expected, SCOTUS takes another hammer blow at the Establishment Clause A revolting, abominable institution. haveblue posted:Right now someone is probably making the case that student loan payments suck money out of the economy and would help with inflation I'm 99% certain I've seen this take at least once already from one of the CNBC or Fox Business talking heads, next time the moratorium is on the chopping block I'm pretty sure it's going to be trotted out a lot now that they've figured out that they can just say whatever they want will fix inflation and nobody will call them out on it
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Ted Cruz has been so frequently compared to horrors of the deep seas that being exposed as merely a whale would be almost humanizing, had it not been that case that the deep sea comparisons were all Lovecraftian
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The GOP can preclude Trump announcing any time it wants, they need simply require any potential candidate to disclose their taxes. Whether or not they do this is the real test of how much leadership doesn't want him in the running. DeSantis is a terrifying prospect because it'd be Youngkin all over again, except nationally this time and as hard times trickle upward into the middle class we're going to get more and more cases of the "ah, time for fascism" switch so many moderates have in their brains in case of threats to property values or gas prices going up, and now we've got a good chunk of them who've just been encouraged for 6+ years to pine for people like Kasich and Dubbya as Sensible and Pragmatic Leadership which they'll slide DeSantis right alongside without any mental effort at all. I'm really hoping for either Trump himself or Trump excluded and now dedicated to being a wrecker. DeeplyConcerned posted:so I can give unlimited amounts of cash to a politician and that counts as speech. but not giving money to someone is not speech? so the state could theoretically force me to sign a pledge not to boycott the Trump merchandise store, and that would not be a curtailment of my free-speech rights? Maybe I should dig a little bit deeper, there must be some underlying bit of logic I'm missing here. Would love to see blue state governments start to force people to pledge to never donate to the GOP so we can get a followup ruling that the previous one only counts when it's in service of right wing causes
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Jun 22, 2022 22:05
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PeterCat posted:The Republicans are going to keep Iowa first in their presidential sequence, while the Democrats are writing off Iowa. This will continue the trend of the Democrats abandoning Midwest states and then being confused that they don' t have a majority in the Senate. Iowa was abandoned like 10 years ago along with so many others in Rahm's quest to streamline the party to focus on one or two hundred million dollar races for his hand picked, parachuted in former Republican fighter pilots. Its value in being early was that it was reliably conservative which is why it's been kept on at #1 despite the party having zero chances to win it, same as with SC. NV is much better and nobody knows what the gently caress NH is ever gonna do. I think the force behind this is mostly what an utter clownshow the Iowa primaries were and now nobody wants to be associated with all that. For similar but opposite reasons, Iowa makes almost as little sense for the GOP to have as their first, but I think there's a hard cap on how much anybody with a say in the process can really care who goes first at the end of the day.
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Jun 22, 2022 23:07
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PeterCat posted:That lines up with my recollections. Iowa went from being a state that had back to back Democratic governors to Branstad and then Reynolds, from having a senator from each party to having only Republicans, and being won by Carter, Clinton, and Obama, then being lost by Biden and the shift really seemed to happen during Obama's term. Indiana is the same, went for Obama in 2008 with a long tradition of Dem governors and Senators and the like. By 2016 it was pretty much dead to the party and now holds the honor of being the first state to vote for Trump two times now. It ain't great! Rahm and Obama really hosed the party at the state level to a degree that will never be acknowledged openly, but is probably (along with 2016) the reason why initially Biden didn't bring any of Obama's people on board. Initially, at least, though he's talking to Summers now. The party loooooves that type of candidate for us degenerate flyover folks. Once he gets blown out by like 45 points he'll have his pick of talk shows to go on as an expert on winning elections in the midwest/plains lol
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Jun 22, 2022 23:37
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rscott posted:I don't see how moving the first primary to Michigan from New Hampshire or Iowa is abandoning the Midwest. Hell even new Jersey is technically in the Midwest since Rutgers joined the Big 10 My argument was that the abandonment already happened awhile ago, and that this is something else entirely (the weeklong clusterfuck of a primary Iowa delivered last time and/or there just not being anybody who cares about Iowa's primacy enough to fight for it staying first on the committee)
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Jun 23, 2022 00:11
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McCaughey is way more likely to win than Beto and way more likely to implement good things than any Republican in Texas so it seems like a no-brainer to support him running for Governor there
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Jun 23, 2022 07:42
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Josef bugman posted:Judging by the way that people are highlighting it, that would mean that some folks are working against the Democrats. Speaking as a red state socialist, and one in one of the boring red states and not one of the culture war flashpoint ones even, sometimes working against conservatives as a primary political philosophy means working against Dems yes. Ideally they'd stop running them but in politics everybody has their own agendas they're working toward.
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Jun 24, 2022 18:15
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B B posted:As requested, the Dems are doing something: Deranged, something you'd see in a movie montage setting up why the movie itself is set in some kind of post-apocalypse or dystopia
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Jun 24, 2022 18:37
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Shooting Blanks posted:Huh, just saw this elsewhere: It'd be interesting to see how Gorsuch lands on killing it but it'd ultimately be 5-4 at best and doesn't address any of the issues present in the "just travel to a blue state to get one" argument/harm reduction. Whether it happens or not, hard to say, I don't doubt that there's plenty that wouldn't want anything to do with it out of either community conservatism or not wanting to make themselves a target
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Jun 24, 2022 19:03
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Main Paineframe posted:The solution seems pretty obvious: build a strong on-the-ground political movement in favor of progressive politics. If progressives can't even win seats outside of overwhelmingly blue districts, then we have no choice but to build more support. It's going to be tricky going to convince people to bust their rear end for months on end to build something that only gets immediately destroyed by Dem leadership as soon as they can for a third time in 15 years because they cannot be dissuaded from viewing such things as an existential threat. I'm all in favor of it but it shouldn't ever rely on input from either party nor should it ever give either any degree of power or influence over itself. Also things like recognition that the wider media will never be on its side and agitating against trust in it as a means to prevent it being used a wedge among the coalition.
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Jun 24, 2022 19:07
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Madkal posted:Professional sports referee. As a lifetime baseball fan I'm gonna object to this one
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Jun 24, 2022 23:13
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Main Paineframe posted:I'm not sure what you're talking about. 15 years dates it back to 2007, so are you talking about the Obama campaign machine? If so, then you have profoundly misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm not referring to a temporary organization to rally people behind a single national candidate who completely controls that organization. I'm talking about a movement to shift people's politics, a movement to convince people that progressivism isn't just pie-in-the-sky bullshit from idealistic fools who don't understand the first thing about politics. From a bit ago but still catching up, but yes I mean specifically Obama for America and the Bernie 2020 setup. In both cases a victorious Dem candidate inherited the keys to these networks that were ALREADY fired up, active in every state, stuffed to the gills with people who are the natural base of the party, and deploying an organizational ideology that had proven to get results. In both cases when they got the keys, they plucked out whoever would make a good fit in their existing NGO ecosystem, added everybody on those lists to their own fundraising systems, then shuttered the entire thing because they (rightly) recognized they couldn't maintain complete ideological control over their structures without keeping promises they made to get the keys. So whenever I hear calls for grassroots organizing my first thought is that they must be running out of progressives to pump money from, yeah. Which is why any structure intending to do what you say here must be prepared to defend itself against this tactic. A temporary movement based around a single, electorally-driven goal is doomed because the center has become an apex predator of that sort of structure. These things are temporary specifically because they are dismantled the second the center gets what they want from them. There were a whole lot of really mad people in 2009 when Obama told them to pound sand!
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Where's the utility in blaming voters, is this a tactic that will bear fruit? Roe being killed is a huge victory for voters as well as a huge disappointment for voters, and no voter had any input on it nor do they have any way to undo it beyond "*waving hands* just give it another 50 years and it will fix itself" Why should anybody have to tolerate being blamed for all of this because they didn't vote hard enough when neither party seems too overly concerned with activating non-voters? They're happy to court donors and let lobbyists write their bills though, seems like a rational analysis would say that that's where the power to influence lies. Didn't Yale do a study on this that basically came down to "among those who work instead of own things for a living, 0% and 100% both had the same correlation to whether or not something passes whereas if you're rich it's a diagonal line going up and to the right"? Every mechanism of government that is able to deliver swift or even any amount of change at all is profoundly undemocratic by design, the most power a vote has if you're not a landlord or jet ski dealership owner is as a loud and public refusal to do it as a challenge to those who feel entitled to it. Tea Party freaks knew this which is why they're pumping their fists and doing victory laps. The reason congressional progressives spend all their time on the sidelines except when they're being tasked with shooting their own dog to make the moderates happy is precisely because they are the bloc in all of American politics that holds their nose at the highest rate. If Libertarians fell in line as hard as progressives do we'd have uninterrupted Republican rule
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eviltastic posted:Profs aren't from Yale but I'm betting you're referencing this one: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf That's the one! It being Princeton is probably why I couldn't find it, can never seem to remember that part right, thanks. Some good graphs in there.
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Cornyn is on Twitter talking about how it's high time we get rid of Brown v Board and Plessy v Ferguson and he's not alone in that sort of thing, wonder if these state AGs are getting ready to start throwing women into superjail forever because they got hit by a lifted F350 King Ranch Extended Cab at a protest or got exposed to a tear gas canister with an abortifacient chemical in the mix and either caused them to miscarry. Naturally a lot of these states passed laws protecting the police and drivers in these situations so that avenue is a no-go.
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I literally make my vote so conditional on issues that I just don't vote anymore and I think or argue about voting less than half this thread lol, if it doesn't matter then stop screaming about it jesus christ. If it does matter then go and do it. I think it's about time this whole thing got moved to the thread dedicated to the midterms and electoralism generally: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4002330. Maybe some progress can be made on the debate with a little more focus. Also please refrain from attacking posters directly, if I see any more of it and have to wake my dog up to move rooms to hit they're going to start at 18 hours as compensation to elderly terriers.
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Willa Rogers posted:If the thread titled US Midterm Elections has been repurposed to now be the US Midterm Elections & All Other Discussions of Electoralism Past, Present and Future then maybe it needs to made clearer, as well as what parameters merit discussion in that thread rather than this one. It's wearing a few hats admittedly, there was a dedicated electoralism thread that closed due to inactivity though, so at the moment it's the best home for it, and if it catches we can talk about making a new thread for it again B B posted:You've got a mod attacking posters directly, so it'd be cool if y'all take care of that before asking us to move discussion. I'll have it known that when I'm attacking a poster directly I make it well known, this constitutes slander
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Join us in the midterms thread, we all have much to say about the value of a vote
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I'm pretty certain that the combination of tiny hands and the extra frictional co-efficient of a sesame seed bun compared to a regular one means that there's a very high chance that a perfect spiral was achieved, and the big mac in question hit the wall like it lobbed by a 5 star QB recruit. The plate was obviously thrown immediate after, as a statement against the wasted nature of such a beautiful sight
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Are these the positions that Trump got around this by just making everybody "acting" this or that and just leaving them there? Sounds like they're out the door in 24 anyway?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:She's probably talking about CHS, which some people get when consuming high potency cannabis products. Considering that these articles are only going to become more common since them showing up semi-frequently at all means some lobbyist group is pushing it, is there anything even on the very fringes of credibility in the realms of human health that THC is worse than alcohol about? Everybody seems to default to the psychosis thing but even then it's like an order of magnitude better than alcohol is about that. Anyway her point about it smelling bad is correct, which is why I advocate for both easy and safe access to odorless THC vapes nationwide and the banning of the demon automobile from any area with a population density above a median. I look forward to her support in my crusade. Herstory Begins Now posted:tell that to presidents ron paul 2008/2012, bernie and clinton 2016, trump 2020 It was a real struggle for us to combine our nega-Cassandra energy into a large enough spirit ball to make them BOTH President in 2016 but I'm drat proud of us all for pulling it off
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Fritz the Horse posted:I don't hate anyone except for this jerk below, very rude Have some pity, they're trapped in the Larry Niven universe
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BiggerBoat posted:He might but no way it works the other way around with Donald as VP. He's already sat in the catbird seat and found it very much to his liking. I could see DeSantis parlaying a single second term of DJT into a nomination 4 years out. He's relatively young, would certainly carry FL and it might set him up for the next 12 loving years. AFAIK, the only thing he's done to piss off Trump is not automatically kissing his rear end on every issue, which might be enough to turn off Donald and some MAGA voters, but he's never implicitly called out Trump for any bullshit that I recall. DeSantis is only 3 years older than Pete, he's like 4-5 years away from being the older cohort of millennials lol. He's got pleeeeeeenty of time if he chooses to take is slow and he'll be a figure of terror in this country for the rest of our lives, I just don't think he will be able to resist since now is pretty much the best opportunity anybody could ask for with Presidential ambitions
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Yeah absolutely. It's just...really obvious. It's not a hollow point, so either this cop was smart enough to buy just pop a round out of the mag of their duty pistol and actually put some effort into it, or they roll with wadcutters on the reg. I'm not sure which would be sadder. Article is from last year, and I don't see anything in there saying it was slated for 2022, am I missing something or did this not end up happening and there's just some confusion about the dates? As for the 2nd part, the GOP has a very large, well-funded, and extremely successful operation to ensure that passing a law in one state means it gets sent out to all the rest they can to codify it as well. ALEC is the most prominent part of it but it's a foundational part of their theory of power and political operations. Professors have long been a favorite target. FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/sharifajackson/status/1544167574837100544?s=21&t=PUOQM9c6SfnRmMwNoWtrfg I'm going to go insane.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Ah, ok, thanks. I've got a respiratory infection and between the meds and the sleep deprivation I'm not firing on all cylinders. No worries, it's been doing the rounds and got me as well but I'm also just sort of waiting for him to actually announce something like that at this point only somehow even more cruel and evil.
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Jul 5, 2022 17:59
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projecthalaxy posted:OK so this is coming from a position of moronic ignorance but is there really no rule that says people get to vote for the President? Like I see the Constitution says the several states shall send electors to Washington to pick the President or whatever but there was never a statute or anything saying "by the way, hold a popular vote to see which electors you send"? I know a lot of the stuff like that is technically just party rules and norms and whatnot but you'd think we would have written down "people get to vote for the President" explicitly on the books at some point. No, only a relative handful of people alive today have ever actually been permitted to vote for President, that spot on your ballot is basically a change.org petition that gets sent to the person representing your area who actually gets to cast the vote. Primaries are their own thing and run entirely in house to whatever rules the parties like. edit - I should specify that this is very much a macro level analysis of it and the nitty gritty is about as insane and convoluted as you'd imagine it would be in the core of a nation in decline Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 5, 2022 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:At least the corn palace perseveres It's too powerful a metaphor...for now Edit - just remembered we lost Touchdown Jesus as well
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The plan of attack against inflation and price increases generally is, in the broader strokes, to "discipline" labor and return the country to the 8-10% real unemployment that is required to keep the current system running as designed. So far the various initiatives to encourage layoffs and increase precarity amongst the productive classes have been yielding results, and thus in their minds they are likely wanting to avoid a situation where they declare RECESSION! only to have to say NO RECESSION! 4 weeks later and look like idiots. There is no legal definition, it's just something they declare when they feel it's necessary as a part of any broader ideological program. They're wrong about this of course, or at least they're not being honest in their public statements as we saw with inflation narratives and the insistent assertion that the root cause of all of this is a 1400 dollar check sent out almost 7 fiscal quarters ago, but it's still what they believe. As ever, the most prudent long term financial strategy is to find someone who has spent decades of their life being wrong about every single thing and being rewarded as a result and just plan for the opposite of whatever they are saying being true. Luckily our system provides no lack of these figures. Summers and Kristol are my go-to media feeds for this.
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Jul 28, 2022 18:21
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Levitate posted:lol so wait, is the implication that the public Manchin blowup about not supporting a climate bill was actually a ruse between him and Schumer to get McConnell to let his guard down and they were secretly all in on this plan that they let literally no one else know about? Either that, or he agreed to it to take heat off himself knowing Sinema would still ensure it dies in the chamber. I don't think this is quite as likely because not only is Manchin seeing zero threats from anybody who could credibly hurt him, it remains the case that the mind of Sinema is unknowable. Initially there was talk about one of the moderates nuking it because of SALT stuff but it seems to have died off, either because it was just someone in the commentariat theorycrafting or nobody believes they have that sort of spine. Certainly the bill as is will give them things to pitch to the portions of their base that are affluent enough to ask about that before signing any checks.
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A big flaming stink posted:are they ever going to have to grapple with the fact that unemployment might be being suppressed by all the covid deaths and the increasingly large number of people disabled from long covid Yes, imho. The question is whether it will be as an attempt to mitigate it in advance, or a rearguard and hapless effort to simultaneously try to fix it while refusing to acknowledge it exists. Nobody here should have to wonder where my money is, but historically speaking mass die-offs of productive labor are events that have been able to factored in and worked around. The interesting question here is that so much of this is focused on sectors where automation has already eliminated about as much labor input as it's going to, so the accommodation may be just letting overbuilt sectors like casual dining contract. Problem here is that so much of this country are overgrown babies who go absolutely insane when they can't get waited on or get quick service that avoiding unrest as a result would mean opening up the money spigot even further and heightening different, more intractable contradictions instead. edit - to clarify, I think COVID causing people to reassess their life patterns and relationship to capital is the biggest driver here. The actual loss in terms of deaths is still not on par with things like wartime population losses that are focused more highly on the younger populations that are required to keep a service economy going. Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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Her job of sowing distrust in bourgeois structures of governance by revealing their profoundly anti-democratic nature and structural inability to respond to crises in time to prevent harm now complete, she will return to her roots of left-wing accelerationist activism She'll be on a bunch of boards where she will trade access to her rolodex for insider information and a large salary when she's not giving speeches at country clubs and economic institutes. She used to think she'd be president but she used to believe a lot of things if you go by what she tells people
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So am I understanding this right, and what happened was: 1) Jones' attorneys send over crimes.xlsx accidentally 2) Plaintiff's attorneys ask them wtf dude, anything you'd like to clarify about this? 3) Jones' attorneys ignore having done so entirely, presumably hoping it'll just go away ?
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Just building more housing isn't going to alleviate any problems if nothing else is changed. Housing of all types getting more expensive forever is basically what our economy is based on now that the petit and parasites are neck deep in it, so building more isn't putting the beast on the defensive, it's making it even stronger. Where have rents gone down anywhere that had a boom in construction? Certainly hasn't been the case here.World Famous W posted:Hell, unconditional forgiveness is part of the religious doctrine of many people Forgiveness is a deeply personal thing but can still be a contentious point among victims. I remember in the film Emanuel about the Dylan Roof shooting, one of the people interviewed said they were frustrated that someone used their chance to speak to him to forgive him because it gave the media carte blanche to ignore any rage others were feeling. That said, it's imho something I don't have any business venturing an opinion on and if anybody is unhappy the target should be our justice system that obviously has no ability to actually harm sociopathic profiteers like Jones until they hurt someone who is powerful.
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Bernie isn't the only one adding amendments, there's no doubt a lot of political reasons in play when deciding to put something forward or not. It seems like it's inevitably going to be a whole bunch and all are going down in flames so I don't get what the big deal is. 99% of people aren't going to know this is even happening, is this just them being cranky about working on a Sunday or something? My daily social media check-in is showing a lot of people angry at Bernie and I honestly cannot figure out why Grandstanding is good, people like it when people stand up for things they like in a vocal and public way.
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Lemming posted:"Grandstanding" also kind of implies that the person doing it doesn't really believe in what they're doing, but I absolutely believe Bernie does. It's meant to be a dig at his integrity That's a fair point, I'm biased to like it and see it as a positive thing so that was probably poor word choice on my part
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If the government paid my landlord to upgrade everything in my apartment, they'd double my rent right after lol Browsing the last couple pages and I'd like to make a gentle recommendation that people read even just the Manifesto or first few chapters of Kapital. The critical point here from a materialist perspective is that candy bars are delicious and cars evil and thus cannot be compared on a 1:1 basis, meaning you must start at least one level below, which is to calculate how many bolts of linen cloth both represent in terms of labor hours
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I think a big thing here is that no matter how well argued, "there are still cheap places to get on the property ladder to maybe escape the fate of those who cannot" is fundamentally a rearguard effort. There are lots of places that were the reasonable places to get a starter home outside of or even near metro areas 10 years ago, and now homes there cost more than the metro area ones did 10 years ago. These places being discussed as good options will not be for long, unless the root of the problem is addressed. Given that there is either nil or next to nil political willingness to even acknowledge this as a bad thing, it takes a lot of the punch out of the argument. The solution to the problem "a wildfire is rapidly approaching" is not "run forever", nor is it "you lucked out and it dodged you, hope it keeps doing that." You need to put out the fire. In this case, it is recognizing housing-as-investment as a plainly incoherent scheme coming to its unavoidable end and building a housing policy that matches rhetoric that housing is a right or the fundamental truth that it is a baseline requirement for human life.
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