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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Just put a 13-56 (Earthwood medium) set on my acoustic and I must've had on 12s or even 11s before because these strings are beefy. That low E feels like it's as thick as a pencil.

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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I've been working on learning Yenne Lee's arrangement of "The Water is Wide" since January. (Transcript and video of Lee playing the song are at that link.) It's my first full-length song. I finally got a decent recording of myself playing it, just one hiccup at the very end, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with this performance. It's really hard to play four minutes without mistakes!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP43TeVuFOc

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Thanks, all.

One thing I like about classical/nylon guitars is they're more forgiving to fret than steel strings. Partly that means they're just easier to play, but I think it also gives you access to more fingering options. One song I'm learning ("If", also from Yenne Lee) plays an arpeggio across a full 2nd fret barre, while also playing some melody notes up on the 4th and 5th frets with your pinky. That's pretty tough for me even on lighter gauge electric strings, but not hard at all on nylon.

a.p. dent posted:

wow! this is great! i'm a big fan of yenne and her arrangements, i saw her play in philly a few years ago. she was phenomenal.

I'm super jealous, she's one of my favorite guitarists. I've watched her Autumn Leaves video at least four dozen times. I'd love to see her play. She doesn't seem to do many shows these days, she only one on her website since 2019.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I'm thinking of trading in my first guitar, a nothing special Vintage-brand HH strat, for one the new Yamaha Revstars, whenever a local shop gets some in stock. Racing stripe is cool. Alamo Music did a good YouTube review about them.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Specifically D5add9, since it doesn't have a third, right?

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Baron von Eevl posted:


From that perspective, and if you're playing it with goodly amounts of distortion, I'd probably say the D A E chord is really just a thickboi D note with some real rough edges, rather than a Dsus2 or a D9 with an implied third or whatever. That's all going to be dependent on the context of what everything else is doing though, so just saying D A E is (chord) is not always how it shakes out.

Describing distorted D A E as a "thickboi D note" is a really fun perspective.

Thanks for the words.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Tenchrono posted:

Moved into a new place over the weekend and finally have enough space to display more than 2 guitars at once. Still waiting on a console table and playing chair to be delivered but its nice getting to see the collection instead of them stuffed in cases inside of a closet.


I approve of guitar collection photos

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I. M. Gei posted:

I mean if this is the kinda fear I'm gonna have about going to lessons then I'm not gonna make a lot of progress

Try starting with Justin Guitar. That'll take at least a year (IME) and will at least get you comfortable with the instrument and some of the lingo.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

The Guitar Salon YouTube channel has had an interesting composer/player on recently, Chrystian Dozza. He seems to play with a pick of some sort taped(?) to his middle finger, which makes for some textures you don't typically hear on nylon string guitars.

Here's two pieces, the first with some precise and energetic strumming with pulloffs, plus guitar drumming. The second is my favorite piece from him, variations on a really lovely melody, played over a drone note.

https://youtu.be/b2whitztqNc

https://youtu.be/f7ogzgB_m7U

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

As for instructions, I think Sweetwater's guides are pretty good: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/guitar-setup-part-1-adjusting-the-truss-rod-2/

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Huxley posted:

e: Maybe I would be this, if I could snap, acutally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEqgeN27Hhk

I saw this on Rhett's channel and it's so good.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I found out last night that he's playing a show here in the Twin Cities next weekend... but I'm going to be out of town :negative:

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I've watched a handful of Beato videos and they all seemed to be of the "guy talks for ten minutes and says nothing" variety so I stopped clicking on them.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Since Rick Beato came up, I have to take a second to vomit up all of my hate towards this boomer-brained shill. I discovered a little while ago that I just straight up despise this guy and everything he does when I was looking up some video explanations of the circle of fifths. At some point I realized I didn't really know how it worked even though I thought I had a general gist of the idea. So I went looking for some tutorials. His "one hour music theory" video was nothing but him showing vague representations of theory ideas while shouting "do you see how this works?!?!" followed by an extended ad for all of his books and lesson programs. He constantly does the carny grifter trick of showing off his ear training by identifying chords by ear and immediately going into ad copy about how you too can do this if you just buy all of his poo poo. The majority of his music theory "lessons" were "buy stuff, from me". It drives me up the wall. There's nothing I dislike more than a shameless self-promoter and gate keeper. Also he constantly whines about Youtube demonitization, which normally I would agree with but from him is just obvious greed and entitlement. I hate him so much lmao.

Incidentally, I found a really good tutorial from a very nice lady that explains music theory as if you are a toddler and it rules. Its actually useful knowledge presented well.

If you want good music theory YouTube, check out Jake at Signals Music Studio.

He also does a few great Q&A livestreams on his Patreon every month, highly recommended if you have a few bucks to throw at him.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Mozi posted:


Starting to come together...

What'm I looking at, here?

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I like the consistency. Good color.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

a.p. dent posted:

the first page of the book:



i remember #6, D13b5b9, being particularly ridiculous, but a bunch of these are super impractical. i learned them all and promptly forgot them.

I was killing some time at the library after work today. Hit up the guitar instructional section, just pulling random old books to look at. Grab one and read the first page and recognize the prose and hey, it's that book from the guitar thread yesterday! Weird coincidence!

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I’m still new to this guitar thing but I think single cut LP is my favorite solid body shape.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Changed the strings on my classical today so here's some ramblings while they stretch.

-I seem to be going about 5-6 months of 30-60 mins of daily playing between nylon string changes. That's longer than I expected.

-I hate long nails (more than 1/16" of white drives me crazy), and I hate that I've now noticed how much better sounding and easier to play guitar is when my nails start growing out. Ugh.

-I played French horn for eight years in school, so reading notation is no problem. Learning how to play notation on guitar has been tough, but manageable and familiar to what I've done before. Earlier this summer I bought some scores that have both notation and tab and wow tab feels like cheating!! I don't mean that in a bad way. It's so much easier and less work. You don't have to think about what the notes are or work out what strings to play them on, you just put your fingers where it says and it sounds right. I don't even look at the notation on these scores, it's so much more work. There's pros and cons to each of course, but I can totally understand now why tab is the standard for guitar.

-I've been learning one of the pieces that made me first want to try playing classical ("Home" by Andrew York). I noticed a pattern for me, with this piece and a few others I learned because I liked hearing them. The first couple weeks are exciting because I can start to hear the song coming together. Then there's the skill gap where you know you're not playing it right and it's kind of frustrating. That's all normal I think. But I also get this weird feeling of like, "that's it?" when I'm learning a piece. Like it's this magical song that I've listened to dozens of times because I like it so much, but then I start learning it and it's just notes on a page, and some newbie like me can play with a few months of work. It's like looking behind the curtain of a magic trick. It's a little bit deflating. Does that make sense? It feels weird to me. But after a few more months of work, after I've memorized it and I start polishing it the magic comes back in the interpretation and performance of the piece.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

frest posted:

As far as the actual playing goes, I've been doing Justin Guitar videos. I'm a little embarrassed about the idea of private lessons. I have absolutely no music background, no ability to read music. Can you recommend me a good book for that? There are so many different guitar instructional books.

If by "read music" you mean the dots on the staff notation, you don't really need that for guitar unless you want to get into classical guitar specifically. Feel free to skip it until you need it.

FWIW I started just two years ago. My progression was to go through Justin's courses through around Grade 5 or 6. Getting through that material took me over a year by itself. At that point you know enough that you can start focusing on what kind of music you want to play. After some experimenting with different things to play, I decided I wanted to go a little deep on solo classical guitar, so I grabbed a book recommended from this thread, Chris Parkening's guitar method. After that, I've just been buying scores for songs I like and slowly learning them. So, that was my approach. I think Justin's stuff is a great place to start, and then you'll be more comfortable branching out into whatever seems fun to you, or starting up private lessons.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Click the report button on the post and put the request there, a mod will take care of it.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Wowporn posted:

Has something happened to Jake Signal Music he hasn’t posted a video in 9 months

He's mostly moved to Patreon. He puts out about one produced video per month over there, and he does one or two, 1-2 hour long music theory/guitar Q&A livestreams per month. I can send a link to the latest livestream via PM, if anyone wants a preview to decide whether to pay for it.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Doctor Zero posted:

A few months ago I decided I wanted to try to learn guitar. I’m not really sure why. I’ve always liked guitars, but it literally never occurred to me that I might be able to learn myself. It was always one of those things I assumed was beyond me. :shrug:

When I saw how inexpensive a starter guitar is, I said ‘Why not. It’s not a huge investment so I may as well try.’ I got a strat style electric and found out I really like playing! I then got a starter acoustic because I wondered which I liked more. Turns out, I like both. Huh.

Anyway, what’s the goonsensus on strings to start out with? The electric (a Donner) came with pretty stiff strings. I put some Ernie Bell super slinky (9) on them, then when the thin E string broke, I put 10s on it. Seems pretty okay. The acoustic (a Fender) had REALLY stiff strings on it, so I put 10s on that too - Elixir 80/20 bronze 10-47. It’s much better, but I wonder if I should go lighter until I get better, or go heavier to get used to it?

The 10s seem good, so it’s not a problem, I just wondered. I read the first pages and didn’t see any recommendations but maybe I’m just blind.

9s or 10s on electric, whatever feels better to you (I like 9s). 10s or 11s or 12s on acoustic (I like 11s). I haven't personally found brands or price points to make much of a difference. I did find that I don't like coated strings (e.g. Elixers), they feel all plasticky in a bad way, and non-coated strings last many months for me anyway.

It is a bit surprising to me that I don't see much discussion of strings. Everyone goes on and on about tone woods and fretboard materials or whatever, but people rarely talk about strings, which seems like it'd be a big thing. Dunno.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Really nicely performed! Singing & playing always impresses me.

I tried learning One Less Set of Footsteps but just never got comfortable with singing. Maybe some day.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

BonHair posted:

Dads are from the 80s now

Average age of new parents in the US is 26. Half of new parents are younger than that.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

frogbs posted:

I'm looking for a little practice amp to mostly use with headphones with my bass and guitar. I already have a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp, but it's honestly too loud for just practicing and i'm probably going to sell it.

I was looking at the Boss Katana Mini or the Monoprice Stage Right 5w Tube Amp. I know the thread likes the Boss, should I just go for that?

Have you looked at the Mustang Micro? Perfect little headphone practice thing. It's intentionally limited, so not great if you really like tweaking things, but for just picking up and playing it's great. Has one or two bass settings, too.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

What am I looking at there? Nylon acoustic with a tele body shape?

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I've got a ~10 year old used guitar. The volume pot is very scratchy, and deoxit hasn't fixed it. Next thing to do is replace the pot, right? While I'm in there, does it make sense to replace any other components? I was planning to do both pots, but what about other stuff like the capacitors or resistors? Are they worth replacing since I'm already in there taking things apart, or are they probably fine to leave if they're not showing any noticeable problems?

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Disco Pope posted:

Guitars are great. I love them.

:yeah: I spent like 90 minutes this morning just noodling and fiddling with the amp & a delay pedal over the same 4 chord loop.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Man I put 13s on my acoustic a few months ago and every time I pick it up I hate playing it. Gonna go get some 11s tomorrow.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

TheMightyBoops posted:

Out of curiosity why did you put 13s on it?

Cause I'm still newish to guitar and want to experiment to find what I like & don't like. 13s go in the Don't Like column.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Ok! I think it had 12s when I bought it.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

If someone's trying to buy my gear with a cashier's check it's like 100% a scam right

It feels like a scam

It's fine if you go to the bank with them while they do the withdrawal, since you're probably not an expert in identifying counterfeit cashier's checks. Easier/safer than handling a bunch of cash imo. I've sold cars that way.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

landgrabber posted:

honestly i feel a little bit bitter about this whole guitar.

i spent money i didn't have and barely paid it off in time, strained to do it... but it was what, six months into having it, that i had real bad fret buzz on the 4th fret? i was able to get it to a point where it wasn't so bad, but it still drove me from playing on that B string in that area. had similar issues with the high E string.

it just feels so stupid that this instrument has gotten logistically harder to play as i've gotten better at it. now i have to see about changing out saddles and bridge screws because one stripped -- i adjusted it twice with the wrench the guitar came with.

it's just all so demotivating.

IMO you should consider cutting your losses and just sell it. It sucks to lose the money, but it happens. I think that guitar is just always going to give you bad vibes even if you eventually got it set up well. You don't seem the type to enjoy tweaking, so go find one that clicks better from the start and trade in that one. Just imo.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Helianthus Annuus posted:

i haven't set up my own acoustic or classical guitar before, so i don't have much advice. just wanted to say that this action looks extremely high! web search says it should be like 3 or 4 milimeters, not 12!

it looks to my untrained eye like you could file material off the bottom :shrug:

Where are you seeing 12mm? The first photo looks like 4mm at the twelfth fret.


OP could take a bit off the bridge, but it doesn't strike me as super out of spec? My nylon string is about 3mm. Nylon strings move more than steel so they have higher action to avoid fret buzz. It might seem too high if you're not used to it.

E: Also it's short scale which means less tension, so higher action/relief to compensate, right?

ColdPie fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Feb 12, 2023

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Was playing around on the acoustic I downtuned to C# because of the heavy strings and accidentally found the intro to Lisa's Theme from Silent Hill 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQkO3TbnSgs

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

We have some Vintage brand guitars at work for testing and they are really good. The Les Paul is better than most Les Pauls I’ve played.

A Vintage V624 was my first guitar! I still play it a lot, though the frets are basically razor blades in my dry Minnesota winter basement. Biggest dislike is having to say "no no, Vintage brand, it's a brand called 'Vintage,' oh nevermind" every time I talk about it.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Yeah that sounds normal to me. You can see the same kind of wording in discussion of CAGED: You have the C shape then the A shape etc up the neck.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Smoking Crow posted:

Hi, I'm just starting out with the guitar and I want to play jazz. I read the OP and mu favorite guitarist (Pasquale Grasso) plays a hollow body electric. What's a good hollow body for an absolute beginner

Good choice, hollow bodies are cool as hell.

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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Yeah that rules. Nice job filling the tuner holes, that looks tricky.

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