CainFortea posted:

Thanks fam.

Anyway this is amokedotte in a nutshell.

Feliday Melody posted:

I haven't seen any updates from Atrum when it comes to reversing bans, but the last response I saw was that if they reverse any bans, then the individual has to apply for it. No proxies or anything.

Bad Purchase posted:

don't know how you can hate him after he made the best post in this thread

so good the mods preserved it in his rap sheet

Normal Barbarian posted:

I handed the squad to Dod. We were getting dragged out behind the wood shed, and he was the one person who could keep that from happening. He was also the last person who had been around from the beginning of hole violence, so it wasn't totally without reason. He acknowledged that he messed up, too, later, to me.

It probably didn't look like that from the outside, but that's how it went down.

Normal Barbarian posted:

Nah I'm some other nerd

psilocybin laden posted:

on the fireside he did the week after, adj was like "part of this whole problem was mittani not knowing how to shut the gently caress up", which is not an admittance of fault or guilt in my book tbh and it's also not a loving apology - keeping misogyny quiet is not the correct outcome, not having it in the first place is the correct outcome, and then there was still no apology (I thought most people's parents taught them as a child to say they're sorry when there's a fuckup, apparently not because getting an apology is like pulling teeth or trying to send a mission to mars)

some people posted in the forum thread that what mittani did wasn't good, but

1. that's a forum thread, that most people will not read or acknowledge, and many who read it will not acknowledge it,
2. it's not a public/coalitionwide sphere, it's a personal opinion on a dead forum called goon fleet dot com,
3. as per number 2, it's not an official stance for the org; unless it comes out on an official channel it does not matter - and it must be from the heads of the alliance, adj, now asher, or anyone else of significant importance

TheWeedNumber posted:

Wonder how much poo poo you covered up in the army lol

Zodium posted:

did you ban Alex yet

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

atrum i still like you idc but you do realize you're carrying water for this poo poo right? step out and read like a someone not a director also you and dozer are both dumb as hell stop this slapfight and remember the combined service motto: gently caress the af

Zodium posted:

are you pushing the people who can ban Alex to do so?

That Works posted:

Lol directorate now all "you want me on that wall... You need me on that wall... To benignly remove the most toxic person in our community if they don't follow a bureaucratic process over the next 60 days"

Profiles in loving moral courage I tell ya.

That Works posted:

I don't either. Maybe next time you can do the right thing without waiting 43 days?

ded posted:

atrum is that guy at the dmv who invents problems with your registration to keep from getting bored. he doesn't actually care he just wants to gently caress with ~everyone~

Rhymenoserous posted:

The point here is that it’s literally the simplest and easiest gesture they can make and nobody has bothered.

There’s a couple of reasons to not just do it: no one can be bothered, which means the afk directorate who doesn’t address issues problem is still in play. The second is no one gives a poo poo, which lol, that’s a problem. The Third is that nobody wants to wah wah this is unfair to dear leader. I won’t bother expanding on why that one is the worst look.

Rust Martialis posted:

I can maybe ask Tuzy?

Potato Salad posted:

please think of the trauma histories of the quiet-part-loud homophobes who repeatedly publicly get away with it


if the people who keep having to shoulder the fallout of homophobia can just shoulder this one more, that would be great, because that's easier than upsetti the spaghetti of the ~culturally homophobic eastern europeans~ which is itself totally not a massive loving can of worms of an excuse into itself

psilocybin laden posted:

we should simply shoot isabella

CainFortea posted:

Do you know who your new AV is?

xtothez posted:

Anyone genuinely interested in returning only needs to say so, absolutely no begging required. It's literally just a case of:

a) I expect Asher will want a quick chat with some folks to get their side of things.
b) Not wanting to review everyone's case when most of them ain't coming back anyway. No sense in doing space paperwork when it's not required. We don't love bureaucracy as much as people think.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

lol i was banned literally seconds after i posted, it was absolutely a rage ban idk what you got told my dude

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

no joke, one of the major reasons i recused myself from the direkkktorate after less than a year was to eliminate all of the loving space meetings

i can barely tolerate that poo poo when they're paying me to attend

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

please stop getting trolled by bill and globby holy poo poo

Feliday Melody posted:

Does anyone have an update on the war? After last month, I moved back to delve and have been doing Corp logistics, so I'm a bit out of the loop.

DerekSmartymans posted:

My home station is ZMV now, and the other day I asked about re-shipping at the staging station. I’m still flying free frigates. Someone gave me four Rifters that were unfit, which I really appreciate (really appreciate!!!), but this is again foreign to me: how do I fit these Rifters when my market is in 1DQ?

I am familiar with how to import fits and buy a “kit (my word)” individually, and don’t mind spending my cash to kit them out. But I’m nervous about the correct “procedure” to do this. Do I need to ship all four Rifters I assembled to 1DQ and fit each one, then fly fitted ships back to staging? Do I need to basically buy four fittings’ worth of parts and ship all them to ZMV, followed by assembly/fitting them?
I’m not sure of a safe way to do this, besides buying my kits and waiting for a move op to the new station. I don’t own anything but frigates (and one Thrasher), and can’t really afford to buy 14M ISK in parts and a cargo ship of some kind just to fit my (greatly appreciated) new hulls. I have the money to buy stuff, but I can’t really afford to lose it all + a new hauler if someone blew it up in that series of jumps (which has happened with a couple of free t1 vigils over the last week or two).

I don’t mind them getting destroyed on a fleet action, and I’m fully ready to buy parts and lose Rifters while having fun in a big fight or four…but I really don’t want to lose them all in a slow trucker ship while moving alone. Some days I have hours of play but no move ops, and other days I’m aware of move ops in advance but can’t log on because of RL time conflicts. 95% of my in-game time is spent in PVP fleets late-night US, so I don’t exactly have money faucets like PI, or even own a salvaging or mining ship of any kind. I haven’t had to worry because I have isk available from many generous goons, but because I’m happily learning the game while flying fitted handouts, I wouldn’t feel good losing stuff simply because I didn’t ask first about a newbee issue.

I don’t mind paying a dedicated hauler, either, but thought that was mainly a “buy stuff from Jita” solution. If there is a good source online for a space trucking DIY, or tips for doing this, I would like to get it done in the next few days…but if the best answer is simply “do best to log on ready to go on a scheduled move op” I’ll be happy, too. I just figured I’d ask before doing something dumb and losing donated gear because of my chaotic scheduling from one day to the next!

As an aside, the person who gave me the Rifters also gave me like ten Caldari shuttles (to fly safer between Delve and Tenerifis because he saw me moving in a naked clone+corvette) but they’re not exactly large cargo movers. Still much better than autopiloting in a capsule, which I thought was just a normal running-between-systems mode because rats on gates kept destroying my corvettes. Links/videos/advice are all welcome!

DerekSmartymans posted:

PM sent. Thanks!

Of course, any advice itt still accepted! I really am having fun with Eve and getting blown up for missing the titan jump bridge (what? I don’t see “titan” anywhere on my overview!!! Lol), then navigating back to the fleet was like my whole first month as Omega 🤩

dragonshardz posted:

corgski posted:

That doesn't make sense? If you're processing auth you should have the scopes needed in whatever your custom dashboard is to see other people's token status. If you don't then lmao, I'm sorry. I could ask Solo how that's broken for you since he's flying with us now.

(I will not ask solo, dude deserves his retirement.)

E:

Oh wow, someone who auths and then their token stops updating once they're told they're clear is a pretty clear pointer to "novice spy" - I caught someone who did that already. "Is the token up to date" isn't exactly privileged information that needs to be protected, and combined with other information scraped from ESI it can be the difference between "idiot" and "probable spy" when making the decision to even recruit someone in the first place.

raminasi posted:

what was the post

quote:

I explained it to you perfectly reasonably the first time.

You proceeded to cause me to repeat myself with smaller words and a more forceful tone. You know, like you do with toddlers and the mentally challenged. Do we need to continue, or is any part still unclear?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I mean there is no link between this forum and nonceswarm, so an asher fireside is as relevant as a gobbins townhall. Though seeing groomswarm eating poo poo and having to run back to delve will never not be funny

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Apparently diplos are doing something. It better be giving init. 7 days to gtfo/apply to other corps and blacklisting everyone on the fort kill.

It's probably just getting a cut and/or arranging a suitable cover story to do nothing.

Potato Salad posted:

what would be the reason to gag the fortizar loot pinata thing?

"yeah you got hosed, but we'd rather not do anything about it, shut up?"

Dalael posted:

I think you guys need to get on the same page

PhilippAchtel posted:

Things everyone knows about but no one wants to address simmering below the surface for years only to explode predictably seems to be something of a pattern.

Better probate the people who try to discuss those things...

PhilippAchtel posted:

Look, I'm going to "real talk" you here because I actually don't hate GSF or want to see it fail. Actually, I'd really like to see it get its act together.

The reason that thread was handled the way it was is due to a culture of secrecy and suppression that your leadership has fostered over years. If you think that should change, as I do, you need to work on that with whatever levers of influence are at your disposal.

I hope you do, and maybe GSF will be a very different duck in a year (lol EvE won't exist in a year), but the leadership really needs to approach this from a more humble, heads on direction rather than the obfuscation and excuses I've seen in this and the previous thread.

Good luck, friend!

Dalael posted:

I think you mean Dalmuti. All my terrible posts are my own, thank you very much