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kw0134 posted:Since he's personally liable on the judgments it'd be peanuts saved on any new business; he'd be shedding the $10k he owes his caterer, but not the billion+ to the Sandy Hook plaintiffs. If he buys a lotto ticket and wins the Powerball, even though it has nothing to do with the tort or his main business, there will be an immediate claim to that money by the creditors. I think you'll find the evidence shows Alex Jones is dumb as all hell
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it's quite honestly impressive how successful Alex Jones has been despite being among the dumbest motherfuckers among 8 billion and really speaks to how far one can go with an unhealthy work ethic and a rich daddy bankrolling you
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ben shapino posted:That's why I say we should lower the minimum wage so the prices go down. That's how it works. Lol
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InsertPotPun posted:you need to learn that there are things other than extremes. Quoting this because this is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on these dead, gay frog forums and I want to be able to reference it in case I ever start to think along these lines
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The Bible posted:he will weasel out of paying a goddamn dime to any of these families I'm not a lawyer, please explain the process by which he will accomplish this
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redshirt posted:Over/under of Jones paying the Sandy Hook parents? 4/2 I'm gonna take the over
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Xiahou Dun posted:The cat is with his kid from his second marriage. Him and his second wife are still together, although it’s probably not a great marriage. What with Alex being a rapidly crumbling alcoholic whose business is dying, that’s also having an affair while he has a PI stalking his wife. And the drunk driving/domestic violence thing from the Christmas before last. Or possibly the year before ; less than 3 years and not 2 months ago. But what's your bright spot, buddy?
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Feb 28, 2024 04:07
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Is Alex's pronunciation of "s" sounds as "sh" sounds a Texas thing or a drunk thing?
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Feb 29, 2024 06:51
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When the penalty trial was over the bailiff should have held Alex upside down and shaken him until a billion and a half dollars fell out. Simple! That this did not happen is proof that no consequence shall befall him.
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Apr 25, 2024 04:15
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I've said it before, but I think the reason the bankruptcy audit is taking so long is because they're documenting things in duplicate; once for the bankruptcy, once for the civil penalties, and again for what I'm guessing is a criminal case they're building. Aside from the 1.5 billion he owes to the families he savaged, he put himself in real poo poo when he decided to play the bankruptcy game. Attempting to hide assets and money from a bankruptcy court, which he routinely admits to, is actual criminal poo poo. It'd be great if like Batman would punch him in the face and tie him to a street lamp or whatever some of you imagine civil courts should be doing, but that was never going to be the case. Part of the reason, aside from obvious class and racial bias, that courts move so quickly against we poors is that we have less poo poo to sift through. Scumfuck that he is, Jones has dozens of shell companies, trustees, and genuine holes where he's trying to hide his money. Ultimately, I guess, if Alex Jones going Hawaiian is the thing that has cracked your ping, then better late than never
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Apr 25, 2024 22:25
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I don't think the courts can seize property or assets until they determine how to carve it up. This might be a jurisdictional issue. I'm a financial crime specialist, not a lawyer, but I'll ask some if this is a thing.
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ok, per my lawyer friend: every state's civil and bankruptcy procedures are different. it's possible that his assets cannot be seized while they're actively being considered as part of a bankruptcy proceeding. i asked why he would be allowed to continue to vacation at the Four Seasons Hawaii and build a new compound, and the answer was he's probably not allowed to, he's probably breaking a ton of laws, but doesn't give a poo poo about the (eventual) consequences. the bankruptcy proceedings are taking priority, for now, because they have to. once they're finished, jones is open to prosecution for the crimes he's racking up in the meantime on top of the historical civil loving he's already taken. edit: for that one guy who suggested toxxing with a specific date, lol lmao
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Apr 25, 2024 22:52
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joke's on you, buddy, being shamed for cowardice is the only way i can cum!!!
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makes sense. thank you for the clarification
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Apr 25, 2024 23:03
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Why are you like this his is the kind of alpha male, high-T posting that can only be achieved by regular consumption of quality supplements like Super Male Vitality, Prostaguard, and colloidal silver, my man you may not like it, but this is what ideal posting looks like
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Apr 25, 2024 23:09
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The courts don't really have that power, though. It seems like it, sometimes, because the consequences of a bankruptcy and civil liability hit a lot faster when the person the court's loving has $25.40 in their one bank account and doesn't own any real estate. The process is the same as what Jones is going through.
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Slyphic posted:
An excellent question. I asked him and am waiting on a reply. I think it can be difficult to appreciate how long it takes to investigate financial crime. Anecdotally, I just finished an investigation involving 10 identities, two bank accounts, and with a total unusual amount of less than $50k. Investigating, cataloguing evidence, and documenting my findings took the better part of this whole month. I am at once envious of and thankful I'm not on the team investigating Jones's finances because that's a never-ending pile of poo poo seasoned with shards of glass and they will spend far too much of their limited time on this earth trying to find where Jones has hidden his wealth.
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The Bible posted:Let's forget the punishment for a minute, and assume that he isn't hiding poo poo. They can't legally stop him from working based on a civil penalty. At this point, everything he's grifting is going to go to the SH families, barring whatever he spends on consumables and travel. The poo poo he is doing now with regard to hiding the money and trying to play a shell game with his assets is criminal and, I can't believe this needs to be repeated, cannot be prosecuted while the bankruptcy is still pending. I get what you're saying, but it's not apples to apples. His current lifestyle is not some special condition of the court. They're not giving him an allowance. They're not treating him any differently from a poor person. It's taking longer to go through his finances because of the various levels of obfuscation he's set up specifically to achieve this result, not because the courts or their agents are giving him any special consideration. To put it another way, do you think it would take you longer to eat a chicken wing or an entire elephant?
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Regrettable posted:Why are people still responding to this like it's going to change something? They just came here to whine and act superior. It's rare for a thread to be about something which I have some level of expertise and can genuinely contribute to, so I'm talking about financial crime, as a treat
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I'm not as specialized as a forensic accountant. I started as a fraud investigator, but started specializing in anti money laundering and financial crimes investigation. Most of my day is spent evaluating credit disputes claiming identity theft, but sometimes I'll get a juicy money laundering case.
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Xiahou Dun posted:How knowledgable are you about the case? Because a common assumption has been that Jones took the default instead of revealing some financial crimes in InfoWars’ books. In both cases he was an unhelpful rear end in a top hat all the time, but absolute stonewall on anything financial. To the point that he got a default judgement and both trials were just for damages. I'm about as knowledgeable as anyone else in the thread about the defamation cases. I listened to the KF episodes and the depositions. I don't think AJ pulled any kind of chess move in defaulting; I think he's just a massive, incompetent shithead who surrounded himself with others of his kind and they simply refused to participate in the trial. He filed for bankruptcy as a way to preserve his wealth, thinking that he could fool the courts if he signed over his assets to friends and family immediately prior or if he created a network of LLCs which he owns and is in debt to. It's Baby's First Financial Fraud stuff. It's the kind of thing stupid people think rich geniuses do to hide money in movies. Filing for bankruptcy triggered a deep dive into his finances that he probably did not anticipate, and that should tell you everything you need to know about his criminal acumen. As for crimes I expect he'll be charged with, I would put money on fraud of various flavors. If I'm speculating, I'd guess that there's also money laundering on behalf of some shady benefactor given the mysteriously timed "donations" of crypto funds whenever FSS is in trouble. Edit: To answer your question more succinctly, any financial privacy he might have preserved through defaulting during discovery was immediately tossed the second he filed for bankruptcy. SonOfGhostDad fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Slyphic posted:Legit followup question for your friend. Can the conservator/ bankruptcy court not stop him from doing further crimes with the things they're looking over? I got an answer today: "I don't know, I'm not doing research to look it up." Tough, but fair.
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We have legitimately been over this. Free Speech Systems has a court-appointed trustee, but I couldn't find any source that says Alex Jones has a trustee who might be controlling his personal finances. The courts aren't dictating how Jones spends his money while the bankruptcy is pending. I don't know where people are getting this idea that he's getting some sort of allowance from the courts.
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For some laughs, here's a shot: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/alex-jones-media-company-reorganization-doubtful-trustee-says And a chaser: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/infowars-parents-bankruptcy-judge-considers-tossing-chapter-11 Looks like the FSS bankruptcy will get a decision in June, and FSS will not be able to reorganize.
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The Bible posted:Well, that's refreshingly soon. Hopefully I've been wrong this whole time. I will gladly eat crow if I was. I don't think anyone's looking to say "I told you so," especially upon the joyous occasion of Jones's destruction. The Bible posted:Serious question for those in the know, if it turns out Jones was obviously obfuscating his finances to slow this whole process down, is there a consequence for that? What would it typically be? This would be fraud and it carries criminal penalties, including prison time. It's extremely unlikely that Jones is not committing at least one kind of fraud.
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bird with big dick posted:I bought this on facebook marketplace and it arrived yesterday, frozen and packed in dry ice. It is from the very same batch of chili that reportedly drove Alex Jones insane. I will be eating it and reporting my findings as well as having a lab analysis performed. Chili so intense you lose custody
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