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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I have finally found a Tom Bombadil Historic Brawl deck which actually works in that it can win games.

Commander
1 Tom Bombadil (LTR) 234

Deck
1 Wrath of God (AKR) 46
1 Lightning Bolt (STA) 42
1 Time Warp (STA) 22
1 Negate (RIX) 44
1 Day of Judgment (STA) 2
1 Swords to Plowshares (STA) 10
1 Cultivate (M21) 177
1 Command Tower (ELD) 333
1 Coldsteel Heart (CSP) 136
1 Snow-Covered Island (KHM) 278
1 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 284
1 Into the North (CSP) 111
1 Snow-Covered Mountain (KHM) 282
1 Snow-Covered Swamp (KHM) 280
1 Snow-Covered Plains (KHM) 276
1 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 251
1 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246
1 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245
1 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
1 Steam Vents (GRN) 257
1 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
1 Rootbound Crag (XLN) 256
1 Sterling Grove (MH2) 293
1 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
1 Glacial Fortress (XLN) 255
1 Sunpetal Grove (XLN) 257
1 Enchantress's Presence (ONS) 261
1 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
1 Sacred Foundry (GRN) 254
1 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
1 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
1 Explore (JMP) 393
1 Isolated Chapel (DAR) 241
1 Clifftop Retreat (DAR) 239
1 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248
1 Hinterland Harbor (DAR) 240
1 Supreme Verdict (RTR) 201
1 Mana Confluence (JOU) 163
1 River's Rebuke (XLN) 71
1 The Eldest Reborn (DAR) 90
1 Phyrexian Scriptures (DAR) 100
1 Growth Spiral (RNA) 178
1 Firemind Vessel (WAR) 237
1 Despark (WAR) 190
1 Golos, Tireless Pilgrim (M20) 226
1 Dance of the Manse (ELD) 186
1 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
1 Arcane Signet (ELD) 331
1 Elspeth Conquers Death (THB) 13
1 Kiora Bests the Sea God (THB) 52
1 Elspeth's Nightmare (THB) 91
1 The Akroan War (THB) 124
1 Setessan Champion (THB) 198
1 Indatha Triome (IKO) 248
1 Ketria Triome (IKO) 250
1 Raugrin Triome (IKO) 251
1 Savai Triome (IKO) 253
1 Zagoth Triome (IKO) 259
1 Chromatic Orrery (M21) 228
1 Confounding Conundrum (ZNR) 53
1 Battle of Frost and Fire (KHM) 204
1 Binding the Old Gods (KHM) 206
1 Showdown of the Skalds (KHM) 229
1 Waking the Trolls (KHM) 234
1 The World Tree (KHM) 275
1 Sanctum Weaver (MH2) 171
1 Sythis, Harvest's Hand (MH2) 214
1 Curse of Silence (MID) 15
1 The Celestus (MID) 252
1 Deserted Beach (MID) 260
1 Shipwreck Marsh (MID) 267
1 Shattered Sanctum (VOW) 264
1 Stormcarved Coast (VOW) 265
1 Sundown Pass (VOW) 266
1 Brilliant Restoration (NEO) 7
1 The Restoration of Eiganjo (NEO) 34
1 Fable of the Mirror-Breaker (NEO) 141
1 Azusa's Many Journeys (NEO) 172
1 Jukai Naturalist (NEO) 225
1 The Kami War (NEO) 227
1 Satsuki, the Living Lore (NEO) 235
1 Jetmir's Garden (SNC) 250
1 Raffine's Tower (SNC) 254
1 Spara's Headquarters (SNC) 257
1 Xander's Lounge (SNC) 260
1 Ziatora's Proving Ground (SNC) 261
1 Displacer Kitten (HBG) 115
1 Leyline Binding (DMU) 24
1 The Cruelty of Gix (DMU) 87
1 The Weatherseed Treaty (DMU) 188
1 Zur, Eternal Schemer (DMU) 228
1 Timeless Lotus (DMU) 239
1 Experimental Augury (ONE) 49
1 War of the Last Alliance (LTR) 36
1 Goldberry, River-Daughter (LTR) 52
1 Scroll of Isildur (LTR) 69
1 There and Back Again (LTR) 151
1 Fall of Gil-galad (LTR) 165
1 The One Ring (LTR) 246

And its legit fun to play leading to back and forth fun games.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Brawl uses commander power level for matches right? I'm running a Nethroi deck, I don't think it's that great hell it seems to be old even i swapped out 4 sac lands for the fetch lands, but its winning a lot more than its losing, like 60-75% or so. While fun i get the impression that this is because Nethroi is labelled weak as a commander but that its a bit stronger than the tier its in?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

flatluigi posted:

brawl matchmaking has, essentially, two channels: there's "the best commanders" which are cards like kenrith and kinnan and golos and esika, and there's all the other commanders. it's difficult to get any more granular than that given how much variance there can be from deck to deck so as long as your commander isn't one that can carry you to a win almost no matter what you'll be in the same queue as everyone else

that said, there is some fuzziness and they *might* be able to shove a very good deck with an alternate commander still into the top tier queue, but that's all anecdotal. just don't stress too much if you seem to be winning with a homebrew, you're golden

I wish it was a homebrew, but its a deck i used to play like a year ago and near as i can tell its barely been updated since then, apart from me swapping out the sac lands for the fetches as i'm not smart enough to brew

Commander
1 Nethroi, Apex of Death (IKO) 197

Deck
1 Indatha Triome (IKO) 248
4 Forest (LTR) 281
4 Swamp (LTR) 277
4 Plains (LTR) 273
1 Flooded Strand (KTK) 233
1 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
1 Sunpetal Grove (XLN) 257
1 Razorverge Thicket (ONE) 257
1 Overgrown Farmland (MID) 265
1 Brushland (BRO) 259
1 Branchloft Pathway (ZNR) 258
1 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248
1 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
1 Llanowar Wastes (BRO) 264
1 Deathcap Glade (VOW) 261
1 Darkbore Pathway (KHM) 254
1 Blooming Marsh (KLR) 280
1 Bloodstained Mire (KTK) 230
1 Shattered Sanctum (VOW) 264
1 Isolated Chapel (DAR) 241
1 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
1 Concealed Courtyard (KLR) 282
1 Caves of Koilos (DMU) 244
1 Brightclimb Pathway (ZNR) 259
1 Command Tower (ELD) 333
1 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
1 Forsaken Crossroads (Y22) 63
1 Bojuka Bog (WWK) 132
1 Polluted Delta (KTK) 239
1 Boseiju, Who Endures (NEO) 266
1 Unburial Rites (ISD) 122
1 Swords to Plowshares (STA) 10
1 Casualties of War (WAR) 187
1 Assemble the Team (Y23) 17
1 Assassin's Trophy (GRN) 152
1 Glowspore Shaman (GRN) 173
1 Grisly Salvage (RTR) 165
1 Timeless Witness (MH2) 179
1 Old Rutstein (VOW) 244
1 Binding the Old Gods (KHM) 206
1 Faeburrow Elder (ELD) 190
1 Knight of Autumn (GRN) 183
1 Mirari's Wake (JUD) 139
1 Eerie Ultimatum (IKO) 184
1 Duress (ONE) 92
1 Stitcher's Supplier (M19) 121
1 Ambitious Farmhand (MID) 2
1 Mire Triton (THB) 105
1 Undead Butler (VOW) 133
1 Sheoldred (MOM) 125
1 Breach the Multiverse (MOM) 94
1 Liliana, Death's Majesty (AKR) 111
1 Skull Prophet (IKO) 206
1 Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines (ONE) 10
1 Dark Ritual (STA) 26
1 Llanowar Elves (DAR) 168
1 Kami of Bamboo Groves (Y22) 24
1 Elvish Mystic (M14) 169
1 Mana Tithe (STA) 8
1 Incubation Druid (RNA) 131
1 A-Llanowar Loamspeaker (DMU) 170
1 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171
1 Reclusive Taxidermist (VOW) 214
1 Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (THB) 169
1 Chromatic Lantern (GRN) 233
1 Somberwald Sage (SIS) 55
1 Oracle of Mul Daya (JMP) 415
1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161
1 Dig Up (VOW) 197
1 Arcane Signet (ELD) 331
1 Coldsteel Heart (CSP) 136
1 Verdant Rejuvenation (HBG) 69
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite (NPH) 9
1 Serra's Emissary (MH2) 30
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope (AVR) 6
1 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse (DMU) 107
1 Esper Sentinel (MH2) 12
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One (NPH) 73
1 Junji, the Midnight Sky (NEO) 102
1 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider (KHM) 199
1 Titan of Industry (SNC) 159
1 Nyxbloom Ancient (THB) 190
1 Craterhoof Behemoth (JMP) 385
1 Thalia and The Gitrog Monster (MOM) 255
1 Skyclave Apparition (ZNR) 39
1 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82
1 Gelatinous Cube (AFR) 105
1 Cemetery Tampering (SNC) 69
1 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
1 Windswept Heath (KTK) 248

if anyone has ideas on what to change up i'd appreciate it as despite it doing fine it does feel a bit weird to be running such a deck

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

palamedes posted:

No clue what to remove, but looks like you've skipped MAT, WOE, LCI, and MKM. A quick look at the creatures available in those sets had these jump out at me:

-Bedrock Tortoise, you could lean into Doran-style butt power stuff
-Moonshaker Cavalry, it's another Craterhoof
-Threefold Thunderhulk, 0 power but not really 0 power for Nethroi's trigger

Edit: alright I took a look at the deck in Arena and I think I see what it's trying to do. Here's a link to a scryfall search for every single creature you've missed, from highest mana cost to lowest. https://scryfall.com/search?q=type%...id&unique=cards. But I'm not immediately seeing anything that's a huge shakeup unless you want a second Craterhoof. Or maybe Specter of Mortality as a pinpointable wrath on a creature since you should have a stocked gy most of the time.

Urgent Necropsy seems worth looking at, again your gy will be stocked so it might end up being Casualties of War for 4 mana a lot. Buried in the Garden is a versatile answer that ramps.

You can probably make some swaps in the ramp cards based on how you feel about the performance of each card. I like Poison Dart Frog for ramp + a deathtouch reach blocker or Intrepid Paleontologist for ramp + targeted instant graveyard hate. Try em out for whichever elf you like least. And Nissa, Resurgent Animist seems like it could draw a lot of elves/elementals with how many fetches you have.

cheers ill see what i can find

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
opening packs and cracked a bonus sheet reanimate... and it says its not banned in Historic Brawl, just Historic and Trad Historic

that seems an unbelievably bad idea and holy gently caress

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

imagine dungeons posted:

Historic Brawl is full of hilarious broken cards. Mana Drain is in as of this set too.

the turn one dark ritual into stitchers supplier into reanimate griselbrand is a go

or if you have a minimum orzhov deck they reprinted pariah so you can just reanimate something with indestructible and then watch them concede

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Bonny Pall seems unbeatable lol

I skipped spoilers but looking that up gives huge Uro vibes. This is not a good thing.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

A Moose posted:

Im pretty convinced they laid off the only person that had the necessary permissions to ban stuff in brawl and just haven't figured out how to do it yet. They just stopped banning things in brawl. Even things that probably shouldn't be in there.

Probably the same person who said they should ban Alchemy cards from it too.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

imagine dungeons posted:

Brawl does seem completely unregulated right now. Mythweaver Poq just running around unchecked for like 4 months.

That and the other cascade deck otk thingy that just makes the most boring of games

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