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Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

projecthalaxy posted:

Also when they constantly admit to like A/B testing a Facebook algorithm specifically designed to drive people into suicidal despair vs one that doesn't and decide to keep the first one cause it gets more clicks we can't necessarily just say "oops all computers"

To add, we also know that Facebook is basically allowing right wing extremisms groups run the site because they pay so much money to manipulate the algorithm.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2022 17:57

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 01:13

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Eric Cantonese posted:

As much as I want to believe it's all falling apart for the GOP, inflation and bad economic sentiment are playing into their hands very well. I get ugly 2016 vibes every time people get smug about their stumbles.

Then again, life is short and one should try to get joy where they can get it. I might just be a miserable dude.

I mean, I hope the Dems can get Ohio and NC in to play and maybe the Senate is secure.

I think the tough part, to your point, is that the economy is in this weird it's bad? or is it?! state. It's not 2008 and 2020 but it just feels weird out there.

I will say, this won't be 2010 in terms of a tea party wave.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2022 17:21

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Josef bugman posted:

Do you think the people of Haiti, of whom there are 9,000 less due to U.N. troops spreading Cholera in the nation, will want this? Do you think I was just referring to the US alone here?

I do not think the current president of Haiti represents the people of Haiti. Even by the standards of other nations.

Aren't you hitting on a paradox here? Sure, yes a dictator by definition can't really represent his people fine. if that's the case, the UN would want to make sure the people are being giving the humanitarian aid they need by passing their sovereignty which as you stated can't be given by a dictator.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2022 22:24

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Josef bugman posted:

I suppose. But it only represents a paradox if you think that "doing something" is more moral than not doing something. In this instance can you see a likely way that things will improve through intervention?

Without knowing what the UN's plan is, I can't say really but i don't think this is the US requesting help on an imperialism because they are trying to come up with some sort of international response.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2022 22:39

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Nucleic Acids posted:

I�m saying I doubt he�s a socialist in any actual sense or else the US never would have allowed him into office last actually leader who could claim a Democratic mandate without US backing was Aristide and the US coupled him for it. And the US has treated Haiti like a colony since it�s inception because we couldn�t stomach the thought of a black nation that freed itself from slavery.

out of curiosity do you have anything that backs this claim that this guy is a US puppet?

# ¿ Oct 19, 2022 16:46

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Nucleic Acids posted:

That the US couped Aristide and that our deep racism has always underlined our every interaction with Haiti?

So nothing.

edit: like I get it, be skeptical fine. Why go through the UN? Why specifically wait for that? Also, why assassinate the last guy who was friendly to the US government?

# ¿ Oct 19, 2022 16:51

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The NFL players who were coaching the sports program have also quit.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1585039258586267650

This is really pedantic but Jaylen Brown is a basketball player, not NFL.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2022 15:12

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

ManBoyChef posted:

https://twitter.com/VeraMBergen/status/1585633516074979331

How is this guy an elected official? This is the guy that had all of his siblings come out against him holding elected office. He is pretty much one of the last people I would consider up to the challenge of sorting this out....I dunno maybe Gohmert would be worse.

Isn't this super unconstitutional?

# ¿ Oct 27, 2022 22:59

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Also the US economy grew 2.6% which mysteriously isn't talked about because we need to fit the economy is a disaster because of Joe Biden narrative.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2022 01:21

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

cat botherer posted:

Normal people are hurting. GDP growth rates bear little relation to that. Hell, rent increases count towards the GDP.

I get that but unemployment is low and the economy is growing. I agree inflation is a problem but people were declaring recession and doom for the economy and they aren't anywhere to be heard recently.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2022 01:31

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Right wing terrorist? Sorry this was just a crazy lone wolf definitely not inspired by increasingly inflammatory speech from Republicans and just because their manifesto will inevitably sound like a Tucker Carlson show transcript like every past mass shooter incident in recent memory is coincidence

Who will both name check the President and Tucker Carlson. Who knows what motivated him?

# ¿ Oct 28, 2022 18:21

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Republicans posted:

Depends on the state. For some they have to meet all the same requirements as public schools while others are "allowed to experiment" which usually means "how cheap can we make it and still get away with being called a school so we get state money"

Don't forget prevent teachers from unionizing.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2022 22:40

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Let's be real he is buying it to go after the people who want him and his businesses to be more scrutinized and regulated. He hates that Elizabeth Warren called him out and needs a platform to control the debate. His "free speech maximalism" is going to be total bullshit because he is absolutely going to shut down any discussion on his businesses.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2022 20:44

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Zwabu posted:

It's great for trolly bullshit like Musk engages in, but it's also pretty good for disseminating news and video, and for various celebrities and politicians to pimp their brands to their base of consumers or voters.

Honestly, it's great if you follow sports too.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2022 23:05

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Man, when twitter dies were will I go to find artists posting cool stuff they made?

Are we all going to have to go back to DeviantArt? I don't want to go back to DeviantArt.....I thought I left those dark day behind....

Myspace's comeback!

# ¿ Oct 31, 2022 21:22

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Youth Decay posted:

"The Jews control the world" has been right-wing mainstream belief for several years now. They're just starting to not bother hiding it behind "globalists" and "Soros" anymore. Kanye's a MAGA-hat-wearing Republican, and the connection to hotep "Blacks are the real Jews" nonsense just adds more appeal to him.

Centuries really.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2022 22:10

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

I wouldn't call this the most journalistic site but...

AOC reporting having problems with her Twitter account, after calling him out.

Such shock that the free speech "maximalist" is restricting the people who were criticizing him. Totally shocked.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 00:39

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

I wouldn't pin high hopes on this just yet. Aside from being filed before the layoffs actually happen, this lawsuit does not appear to have any current or former Twitter employees involved yet.

There will certainly be real lawsuits, there's no doubt about that, but this feels like a move to get her name out there in the news at a moment when a lot of current and former Twitter employees are pondering whether they should call up a lawyer.

Liss-Rirodan just had an unsuccessful bid to run for AG in Mass. but she ran on successfully suing Uber.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 11:33

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

superjew posted:

Does declaring it actually mean anything legally? Is there paperwork that he cannot file once indicted?

Legally not really but the media coverage will change and because the media doesn't want to be biased they are going to go for the Joe Biden is going after Trump how unprecedented is this?! narrative.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2022 21:37

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Staluigi posted:

Wanna just remind everyone how much of a psycho religious nut this guy was by saying that the picture only hints at it

so glad CNN platformed him after he lost his Senate seat.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2022 04:57

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Charliegrs posted:

Pretty wild to think our democracy probably only has about 24 hours left before it's dead because gas is $4 a gallon.

Did Joe Biden try the gas price low button? Maybe he should try that.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2022 17:05

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117

https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591990727852298245
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592186302379982849

No. Don't. Stop.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2022 17:35

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Rigel posted:

I think they are fully anticipating that Trump is going to be indicted and tried for extremely serious crimes with a high probability that he could actually be convicted on something. They are probably butthurt about that and really want to do whatever they can to paint Biden as somehow being immoral or corrupt to at the very least "both-sides" it and neutralize Trump crimes as an issue in 2024. If they can't do that, although this board tends to be pessimistic and cynical about this, it really will be a huge problem that will drown out any message the GOP tries to run on.

They are also trying to deflect because if Trump even gets a little bit of pressure he is going to flip on the members who helped him out.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 18:10

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:

So the GOP is just giving up all pretense of trying to govern and do things that might actually help the American people, huh? I mean, it's not surprising that they'd take that turn, but you'd think they'd at least want to try to appeal to people outside their lunatic base, considering they just had a fairly lackluster midterm performance.

Plus, all the investigations could have a weird upside in that it might push Joe toward deciding not to run for reelection, which in my opinion would actually benefit Democrats. Especially so if Trump's on the ballot.

People vote on feels, not on policy or governance unless it gets real bad.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 18:21

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

We've all talked about this before, the GOP's platform is DEEPLY unpopular, which is why whenever they get legislative control almost nothing gets done. Sadly, that rarely seems to matter to voters.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 18:32

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Official that Pelosi is stepping down.

quote:

WASHINGTON (AP) � House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she will not seek a leadership position in the new Congress, a pivotal realignment making way for a new generation of leaders after Democrats lost control of the House to Republicans in the midterm elections.

Pelosi announced in a spirited speech on the House floor that she will step aside after leading Democrats for nearly 20 years and in the aftermath of the brutal attack on her husband, Paul, last month in their San Francisco home.

�Now we must move boldly into the future,� Pelosi said. �The hour has come for a new generation.�

The California Democrat, who rose to become the nation�s first woman to wield the speaker�s gavel, said she would remain in Congress as the representative from San Francisco, a position she has held for 35 years, when the new Congress convenes in January.

It�s an unusual choice for a party leader to stay on after withdrawing from congressional leadership but one befitting of Pelosi, who has long defied convention in pursuing power in Washington.

Democrats cheered Pelosi as she arrived in the chamber at noon. On short notice, lawmakers filled the House, at least on the Democratic side, and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer joined. The Speaker�s Gallery filled with Pelosi staff and guest. Some Republicans, including some newly-elected members, also attended.

The first women to become speaker, and the only person in decades to be twice elected to the role, she has led Democrats through consequential moments, including passage of the Affordable Care Act with President Barack Obama and the impeachments of President Donald Trump.

By announcing her decision, Pelosi could launch a domino effect in House Democratic leadership ahead of internal party elections next month as Democrats reorganize as the minority party for the new Congress.

Pelosi�s leadership team, with Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and Democratic Whip James Clyburn of South Carolina, has long moved as a triumvirate. Hoyer and Clyburn are also making decisions about their futures.

All now in their 80s, the three House Democratic leaders have faced restless colleagues eager for them to step aside and allow a new generation to take charge.

Democratic Reps. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Katherine Clark of Massachusetts and Pete Aguilar of California have similarly moved as a trio, all working toward becoming the next generation of leaders. Jeffries could make history if he enters the race to become the nation�s first Black speaker of the House.

One idea circulating on Capitol Hill was that Pelosi and the others could emerge as emeritus leaders as they pass the baton to new Democrats.

Clyburn, the highest-ranking Black American in Congress, has said he has no interest in being speaker or leader of the minority at this point in his life but expects to stay in Congress next year.

�I do wish to remain at the leadership table,� Clyburn said a week after the midterms. �As to what capacity that will be, I will leave that up to our Democratic caucus.�

Hoyer has not spoken publicly of his plans.

First elected in 1987, Pelosi has been a pivotal figure in American politics, long ridiculed by Republicans as a San Francisco liberal while steadily rising as a skilled legislator and fundraising powerhouse. Her own Democratic colleagues have intermittently appreciated but also feared her powerful brand of leadership.

Pelosi first became speaker in 2007, saying she had cracked the �marble ceiling,� after Democrats swept to power in the 2006 midterm elections in a backlash to then-President George W. Bush and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

When she was poised in 2018 to return as speaker, in the Trump era, she vowed �to show the power of the gavel.�

Pelosi has repeatedly withstood leadership challenges over the years and had suggested in 2018 she would serve four more years as leader. But she had not discussed those plans more recently.

Typically unsentimental, Pelosi let show a rare moment of emotion on the eve of the midterm elections as she held back tears discussing the grave assault on her husband of nearly 60 years.

Paul Pelosi suffered a fractured skull after an intruder broke into their home in the middle the night seeking the Democratic leader. The intruder�s question � �Where is Nancy?� � echoed the chants of the pro-Trump rioters at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, as they hunted for Pelosi and tried to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden�s election victory over Trump.

David DePape is being held without bail on attempted murder and other charges in what authorities said was a political attack. Police said DePape broke in and woke up Paul Pelosi, and the two struggled over a hammer before DePape struck the 82-year-old on the head. DePape, 42, has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of attempting to kidnap a federal official and assaulting a federal official�s family member.

Paul Pelosi was hospitalized for a week but is expected to recover, though his wife has said it will be a long haul.

At the time, Speaker Pelosi would not discuss her political plans but would only disclose that the attack on her husband would impact her decision.

Historians have noted that other consequential political figures had careers as rank-and-file members of Congress, including John Quincy Adams, the former president, who went on to serve for nearly 18 years in Congress.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 18:52

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Wheeljack posted:

Of course, the most democratic thing would be to fill the seat with someone without career ambitions, like Jerry Brown who could just serve out the term, so there could be an open election and the people could make their own choice. There's only been one open election for a California senate seat in the last 30 years, Harris's. One governor making two lifetime Senate appointments is a bit much.

It will never happen but we need to amend the constitution for Senate seats to be elected when vacancies come up.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 19:54

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Katherine Clark is also running for Speaker too I thought.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 21:17

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

She's been calling people asking for support for "a leadership position," but I don't think they have confirmed it is necessarily Minority Leader. Kevin McCarthy is going to be Speaker.

er...sorry right. I mean, I assume she is going for minority leader.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2022 21:26

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

How far away is Big Auto from actually pumping out electric cars on a Tesla scale?

A bunch of them are coming to market in the next year or two with fairly heavy production schedules I thought. Ohio is looking to become the factory center for EVs.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2022 16:57

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Madkal posted:

I live a province (Canadian here) where Tesla's are ubiquitous as gently caress. The people driving them aren't doing it because they are electric but because it's kind of a status symbol. When BMW or Mercs or whatever start making electric cars as quickly and as expensive as Tesla's then I can see them taking a hot here. I don't think Tesla is worrying about the coming of Nissan Leafs.

It's also why Tesla was never going to change the world. They never wanted to make an EV accessible to the middle and working class.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2022 17:45

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

OAquinas posted:

Besides the EV trucks (esp. F150E), what's really going to eat into Tesla is their lack of a crossover body (that isn't $100k). Nissan, VW, and Hyundai all have good offerings coming up/here. Not sure about other places but that type makes up most of the traffic around here.

Musk's net worth is on borrowed time.

Ford is literally making the most popular truck an EV too. Their F150 EV model is coming out soon.

Fister Roboto posted:

Any time a right winger claims to like RATM or similar groups, they actually are listening to the lyrics. But then they assume that "the machine" is like... politically correct liberals and minorities.

You know my friend and I were talking about something similar last night. The whole Joe Rogan conservative crowd get into this question everything mentality but somehow not to the point about you know American business or their own culture and beliefs. They distrust the government but only to the extent it pokes at any small amount of their power.

Mooseontheloose fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Nov 18, 2022

# ¿ Nov 18, 2022 17:58

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

evilweasel posted:

the goal is to either create an aura of scandal or to both-sides it so everyone views all investigations as politically motivated

That and to also hope the media starts repeating their lies over and over again like they did with Benghazi. All they need is one "scandal" to stick and hope enough mainstreamers go with it.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 17:58

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Zotix posted:

Not trolling, legitimately asking how is what Hillary did with a private server different than what Trump did?

Was she still secretary of state when it happened? Is that the key difference?

That and she wasn't absconding with nuclear secrets, as far as we know. Plus, she (mostly) followed the security rules of the government.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 22:02

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Rigel posted:

If you want empty platitudes and people copy-pasting their stance on gun control and the cause of violence for the 174th time, you can get that on Facebook.

I don't know what value there is or what can be learned about discussing a mass shooting in depth that doesn't have any details which are particularly novel. At least Club Q was a clear-cut LGTB mass murder hate crime and that is not (yet) routine, but this shooting in Virginia?

To be fair, it's important to not get numb to these things. We need people to care if things are going to change.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2022 18:48

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Discendo Vox posted:

I don't think there's any rule saying ~~a dog~~ Manchin can't be speaker.

I think by rule you can't serve in the house and the senate.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2022 16:48

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Gyges posted:

I could definitely be wrong, but it is my belief/feeling that the main issue with Democrats making GBS threads the bed in Florida is the party's insistence on being ride or die 3rdy Way triangulation.

I worked Florida in 2010 during the Tea Party wave. And it sounds like not much changed, the top level people are there to raise money and not much else. They don't do field and want to hand pick their candidates.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2022 16:19

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The entire idea of giving into workers' demands and not sending in men with guns to beat them down while praising the bosses is entirely alien to the Dems. They genuinely don't understand the idea.

I missed the part where Joe Biden is sending in men with guns to beat down the striking workers or praising the bosses. Can you show me the statements where that happened?

# ¿ Dec 1, 2022 13:35

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

redbrouw posted:

Putting yourself under suspicion of conspiracy right off the bat is some libsoftiktok-brained poo poo.

there is a certain strain of this that they will get the police to come to them, convert them, and then have them do their bidding to show where the real evil is.

# ¿ Dec 5, 2022 01:36

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 01:13

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

cat botherer posted:

I think the police should talk to the God fellow, sounds like He might know something.

Kinda tough since he's everywhere.

# ¿ Dec 5, 2022 15:47

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