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Who's your 2022 MVP? This poll is closed. |
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| Shohei Ohtani |
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50 | 59.52% |
| Aaron Judge |
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19 | 22.62% |
| Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know! |
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15 | 17.86% |
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Baseball is my favorite sport.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:05
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Baseball is my favorite sport because its the reliable one in my life. The rest are all dirty one night stands and torrid affairs. Baseball is my love.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:06
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STAC Goat posted:We're thankfully never even considering ties and the one time an All Star Game ended in one we freaked out. The only person who freaked out about it was Bud Selig, and that was because it happened at the national showcase of his shiny new stadium, and it resulted in the stupid horseshit of the All-Star Game determining home field advantage in the World Series for like fourteen years.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:18
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Red posted:Does it? If each team gets the ghost runner, they have equal chances of tying it back and forth. Yeah, each team has an equal chance of scoring in an inning (putting aside differences in roster talent and where in the batting orders they are/what the state of the bullpens are), but the most likely score at the end of each half-inning is 0, which means that the most likely outcome of each extra inning is a tie. Adding the zombie runner does succeed in the goal of adding more *variance* to the scoring. It's not more likely that the home team will score or the away team will score, it's more likely that one team will score a different number of runs than the other. I hate the zombie runner, but I guess I lost that fight. Everyone involved except fans loves it.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:21
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I wouldn’t mind the ghost runner as much if it kicked in in the 11th or 12th. At least we don’t have 7-inning doubleheaders anymore.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:35
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more falafel please posted:Yeah, each team has an equal chance of scoring in an inning (putting aside differences in roster talent and where in the batting orders they are/what the state of the bullpens are), but the most likely score at the end of each half-inning is 0, which means that the most likely outcome of each extra inning is a tie. Adding the zombie runner does succeed in the goal of adding more *variance* to the scoring. It's not more likely that the home team will score or the away team will score, it's more likely that one team will score a different number of runs than the other. The debate/argument about this has already been had in previous iterations of this thread, but thanks for the wording. Ever since I realized it would get games into the sweet spot for programming time I figures it would be permanent Baseball fans like extra innings, TV execs and advertisers hate it. Lorne Michaels once famously lost his poo poo over an NFL overtime cutting into SNL and I imagine most TV types are the same way Although with streaming you could argue "who cares"?
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Feb 13, 2023 22:36
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For regular season games, only 7 have gone to 13 innings since the ghost runner rule (2020). The year before, 37 games went to 13. I think it'd be better to just play 3 extra innings and call it a tie if it goes past 12. That's minimum one lap through the order like said up before. I didn't count but number of games going past x does seem to drop off a cliff around 11-12 innings. So you're not really losing a ton of team record by having ties vs 162. For playoffs you can add the ghost runner after the 12th if you really like it. I don't so I say let it ride.
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Feb 13, 2023 22:39
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Isentropy posted:The debate/argument about this has already been had in previous iterations of this thread, but thanks for the wording. Ever since I realized it would get games into the sweet spot for programming time I figures it would be permanent Don't worry, I get 90% of my baseball opinions from Effectively Wild.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:01
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bawfuls posted:NPB has ties after 12 Mr. Baseball said it was 15 innings, but I'm guessing that's an old rule due to that being a 1992 film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG71XB7RVJI
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Feb 13, 2023 23:02
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Isentropy posted:Baseball fans like extra innings, TV execs and advertisers hate it. Lorne Michaels once famously lost his poo poo over an NFL overtime cutting into SNL and I imagine most TV types are the same way It was even dumber than that - SNL was preempted by an XFL game.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:04
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The new position player pitching rules are dumb. Position players pitch in blowouts most of the time and it's a way to make a really boring game a little bit more exciting.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:15
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Luigi Thirty posted:I wouldn’t mind the ghost runner as much if it kicked in in the 11th or 12th. At least we don’t have 7-inning doubleheaders anymore. Yeah something like 40-45% of extra inning games don't make it out of the 10th and only about 30% make it past the 11th; so MLB could push the ghost runner rule back to the 12th without it being very obtrusive and pretty much eliminating the prospect of a 14+ inning marathon. That would make the rule kind of a weird, rare little unlock rather than something you have to remember is a thing one out of every 10 games.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:23
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Posting the phrase “ghost runner” in reference to the very corporeal person on second base in extra innings should be an automatic 6er Zombie Runner or Manfred Man, please
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Feb 13, 2023 23:34
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Feb 13, 2023 23:34
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bawfuls posted:Posting the phrase “ghost runner” in reference to the very corporeal person on second base in extra innings should be an automatic 6er They're a ghost runner because they arrived there from a ghost plate appearance.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:38
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bawfuls posted:Posting the phrase “ghost runner” in reference to the very corporeal person on second base in extra innings should be an automatic 6er for a second I mixed up songs and was thinking that Beds Are Burning was by Manfred Mann and lemme tell you buddy, I had a great parody about extra innings that made full use of the rhyme but now it's worthless
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Feb 13, 2023 23:39
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bawfuls posted:Posting the phrase “ghost runner” in reference to the very corporeal person on second base in extra innings should be an automatic 6er Ben Lindbergh account spotted
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Feb 13, 2023 23:39
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bawfuls posted:Posting the phrase “ghost runner” in reference to the very corporeal person on second base in extra innings should be an automatic 6er What if they wore a Slimer costume while on the basepaths?
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Feb 13, 2023 23:40
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General Dog posted:They're a ghost runner because they arrived there from a ghost plate appearance. "Ghost runner" has already been a thing with a clear meaning for decades though. It's the runner you pretend is on base when you don't have enough people for a full game, for sandlot or other mostly unorganized games
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Feb 13, 2023 23:40
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General Dog posted:They're a ghost runner because they arrived there from a ghost plate appearance. A ghost runner is already a thing, when you’re playing a game as a kid and don’t have enough people to occupy all the bases and still have a batter. Manfred Man is also more appropriate than ghost runner, at least it places blame with the dipshit commissioner. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Feb 13, 2023 23:41
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Ben Lindbergh account spotted
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Feb 13, 2023 23:42
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Zombies are very in right now and MLB should be praised for capitalizing on a trend 20ish years after it started instead of their usual 40. I personally can't wait for my Vladimir Guerrero III funkopop in 25 years.
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Feb 13, 2023 23:57
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zoux posted:Games featuring position players pitching: Yeah and? STAC Goat posted:Baseball is my favorite sport because its the reliable one in my life. The rest are all dirty one night stands and torrid affairs. Baseball is my love. Baseball is my favorite sport because it's the one I spent the most time watching with my dad growing up. Simple reason e: Imagine watching Rendon hit a lefty dong off Brett Phillips and thinking "Hm this is bad" Intruder fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Feb 14, 2023 00:03
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It should be called the Manfred Man because Manfred should be wrapped up in a douche (and thrown into a large plastic garbage can)
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Feb 14, 2023 00:12
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It’s kind of mind-boggling that here in the 2020s MLB can make rule changes (talking about the pitcher roster limit and the restrictions on position players pitching) where the underlying logic is “the pitchers aren’t getting physically run down enough” and everybody basically signs off on it.
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Feb 14, 2023 00:18
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Position players on the mound is one of the few entertaining things in a blowout game. Tell me you didnt like seeing Anthony Rizzo strike out Freddy Freeman. Baseball needs to get out from up its own rear end. Anyone that ever stopped watching because the backup catcher was on the mound in a 16-1 game was never a fan to begin with.
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Feb 14, 2023 00:25
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If you're down by 10 runs, you get to bring in the Pitch-O-Matic 5000 and crank it up to 100 MPH
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Feb 14, 2023 00:28
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That won’t help close the gap, though. Allow one inning of coach pitch and we’re getting somewhere.
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Feb 14, 2023 00:39
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Baseball needs to get out from up its own rear end. Anyone that ever stopped watching because the backup catcher was on the mound in a 16-1 game was never a fan to begin with. Man I gotta work tomorrow
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Feb 14, 2023 00:44
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Dinosaurs! posted:That won’t help close the gap, though. Allow one inning of coach pitch and we’re getting somewhere. Bring back dad pitch. One of the players dads comes out of the stands to pitch zoux posted:Man I gotta work tomorrow If you don't care to watch the position player pitching in a blowout you can probably just safely turn the game off
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Feb 14, 2023 00:44
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Intruder posted:Bring back dad pitch. One of the players dads comes out of the stands to pitch Void when playing the Tigers
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Feb 14, 2023 00:45
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zoux posted:Man I gotta work tomorrow I meant like "stopped watching mlb altogether because of this egregious offense to the game" which is apparently what MLB is worried about.
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Feb 14, 2023 00:51
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Long extra innig games were cool when I was in my 20s. This rule is fine.
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Feb 14, 2023 00:52
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No one wants to be at the mercy of "their CF made the final out, our catcher made our final out" but you're already at the mercy of how your order happens to line up anyway
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Feb 14, 2023 00:57
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Intruder posted:No one wants to be at the mercy of "their CF made the final out, our catcher made our final out" but you're already at the mercy of how your order happens to line up anyway
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Feb 14, 2023 01:15
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Red posted:Mr. Baseball said it was 15 innings, but I'm guessing that's an old rule due to that being a 1992 film The above once led to the Japan Series going to an 8th game, which I think I've posted about before. Also, my god the loving ghost runner 
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Feb 14, 2023 01:21
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LOL Only the yankees could lose their no 3 starter for a month before pitchers and catchers even report.
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Feb 14, 2023 01:25
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Just cackling at the image of every Manfred Man having to literally be Manfred. Just delaying a game for three+ hours every time it’s needed so Manfred can be shoved in a jet and rushed to whatever stadium to stand on 2B during extras.
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Feb 14, 2023 01:36
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Just the idea of running reminds me that they were doing tryouts for a new The Freeze, idk what happened to the first one (guy on the grounds crew who happened to have been a college sprinter iirc).
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Feb 14, 2023 01:40
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Just cackling at the image of every Manfred Man having to literally be Manfred.
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