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How much longer is Twitter going to last?
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Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


it sure would cut server costs if the service was no longer running

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Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Clarste posted:

As objectionable as underage cartoons are, they are not CSAM in that no children were harmed in their production.

This discussion got me curious, so I looked it up. Turns out US law has other ideas:

18 U.S. Code § 1466A posted:


(b)Additional Offenses.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—

(1)

(A)depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and

(B)is obscene; or

(2)

(A)depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and

(B)lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;

or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(2), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

(c)Nonrequired Element of Offense.—

It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

Granted, the US is not the entire world (turns out shota/loli is legal in Germany because no real children are "harmed" in its production), but it makes me wonder how the gently caress so many American artists get away with openly advertising that they produce this poo poo on social media.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


I feel like it's pretty on-topic to wonder why underage content on Social Media isn't being more aggressively prosecuted in the Social Media thread, but I'm also not about to get involved with a thread that's almost certainly going to turn into a hideous clusterfuck, thanks all the same

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


it would be cool if this halli fellow was in charge of twitter instead of musk. he should renegotiate his contract to do that

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
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Soonmot posted:

which ones, because I need it

i bring gifts, friend goon

the same name can be used to find the addon for other browsers

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
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Fortunate Bird posted:

Unpopular opinion but I honestly think people are going to be predicting the death of twitter (for any definition of "death") for eternity while slowly proving elon right that you can just fire 90% of staff and start charging money to use the thing. The fact is that the liberals that are still there are never going to leave. The idea to make the blue checkmark possible to hide is genius. Half of the people that claim to hate twitter/musk will probably pay the $10 a month because clearly twitter is a valuable business platform if they still are using it despite being in opposition to their values. They are still using it because they want the audience it provides. But increasingly they're going to find their audience shrinking as their non paying accounts are deprioritized. Some of the competing liberal accounts will start forking over the cash, and they'll have pressure to do the same or just slowly lose their audience while republican's and russian bots and the democrats willing to support musk take over.

what motivates you to pin this on The Liberals instead of the chuds and trolls that elon is deliberately courting and protecting

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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are there even ten thousand companies of note on twitter

like 5k sure i could believe that, but 10k?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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twitter is designed from the ground up to create echo chambers, who knew

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Vegetable posted:

Hell, the fact that active threads get bumped up to the top on SA generates its own kind of bias about what people read.

this is why bookmark browsing is the superior way to use the forums :hehe:

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Young Freud posted:

In other news, cryptobros mourning the loss of the NFT market...https://twitter.com/AaronSage/status/1649466781164240896?t=5XSCKvweIoA1kKJJfLD82A&s=19
My ape market all gone

"it was so cool having a bunch of people identifying with the same thing and working towards a common goal! this has never happened before and will never happen again!"

mf have you never played a videogame???

i wonder how many cryptobros would be chasing NFTs if they knew about MMOs

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


what

the gently caress

is HAPPENING

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Fortunate Bird posted:

Yeah I'm not actually seeing anything interesting or controversial in that dumb alt account

mans is roleplaying a toddler - his toddler - so he can talk about porn and subtweet his ex-wife

https://twitter.com/full_slack/status/1650671158478659584?s=20

you really don't see anything interesting or controversial there??????????? one of the most insane loving things that a human being could ever say???????????????????

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Fortunate Bird posted:

Where is the porn talk exactly? Is saying "I'm three" roll playing a toddler? I can't say I get wtf is going on with the account. It's all weird for sure but nothing really blowing my mind. Not the most offensive poo poo from musk this week for me.

using the power of clicking through, this:

https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1650686924200497152?s=20

apparently the account has a bunch of really insane likes too, but there's not enough folding money in the world for me to check that poo poo myself

also yes he straight up posted about how he was going to be three years old soon, that's pretty spot-on for roleplaying:


just

gently caress

where to start

where to stop

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


Alkydere posted:

Also holy poo poo, how does poo poo with Musk keep getting weirder?

a combination of "being totally insulated from consequences" and "being surrounded by delusional yes-men" will stir-fry anyone's brain. basically if you added billions of dollars to Koala's March you'd get Elon Musk

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


haveblue posted:

Yeah, Bluesky does appear to be Jack starting over with the exact same basic idea

It's effectively Twitter with more moderation and a significantly more airtight privacy policy.

https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1651686218319425570
https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1651688259355918336

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Good to know I'm just an idiot who bit the bait, then. This is what I get for being online without coffee.

Main Paineframe posted:

Could you elaborate?

See above.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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and now, in today's shocking news:
https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1654877506783137792?s=20





Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Szmitten posted:

What's wrong with Discord? Is it just a hyperbolic response to the username system change?

it's a very good chat client that supports voice calls and video streaming

it has also tried to be:
  • a storefront in competition with steam
  • a host for jackbox style minigames
  • a social media platform

it has sucked at pretty much all of these things because none of them are what people actually care about

also it's had some pretty major moderation blunders where nazis have been able to pretty openly get away with making internet clubhouses and nothing was done about them in a timely manner

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Clarste posted:

I use Discord as an image host because it's easier to upload something to chat than to use actual dedicated image hosts.

also less subject to link rot since imgur has decided to poo poo the bed

Clarste posted:

Re: Nazis, I'm not really sure what we expect Discord to do about that unless it's monitoring every single server, which I'm sure we don't want for other reasons.

keyword scraping can be done without requiring review of the content

just ask some of SA's mods :v:

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


Tragicomic posted:

Coming back to SA as a Reddit refugee, I have to wonder - how did SA avoid becoming a right wing haven? We've been around for twenty years, the membership fee is pretty cheap considering inflation, and frankly the pranks the site used to pull would be counted today as fairly hateful targeted harassment (thinking of poison womb now that I'm an oldie who dealt with miscarriages is rough).

I remember D&D going hard on accelerationism in the early 2010s but somewhere around Brexit SA started hating the authoritarian trend and I guess still does?

SA saw what 4chan turned into and collectively went "let's not"

also SA has always had an emphasis on posting funny or interesting things and as the userbase aged and gathered more minority folks the concept of harassment became steadily less funny and/or interesting

Kith fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jul 1, 2023

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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by doing it right.


Tragicomic posted:

Good ole moot saved us from ourselves?

kinda, yeah. he demonstrated what SA could be with less moderation and a userbase bent on being as extreme as possible, and as it turns out that fuckin sucks

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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socialsecurity posted:

The 2008/12 toxxes purged quite a bit as well.

Jesus, no kidding. Reading those Leper's Colony entries is good poo poo, Fragmaster had a ball with those shoots.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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PhazonLink posted:

kill emoji next please.

💀

that will be $44 billion dollars

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Shrecknet posted:

have we forgotten ASCII art? Am I that :corsair: ?

  ∧,,,∧
  ( ・ω・) I like milkshake!
  ( つ旦O
  と_)_)

  ∧,,,∧
  ( ・◎・) slrrrp
  ( ゙ノ ヾ
  と_)_)

  ∧,,,∧
  ( ・ω・) Hmm, tastes like prion disease...
  ( つ旦O
  と_)_)

  ∧,,,∧
  ( ・ω・)
  ( つ O. __
  と_)_) (__()、;.o:。
          ゚・:.。
      _ _  ξ
    (´   `ヽ、     __
  ⊂,_と(    )⊃  (__()、;.o:。
      V V           ゚・:.。

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Boris Galerkin posted:

Why should I care what a blue check dumbass has to say? I have no idea who he is and Twitter won’t let me peep his profile so I have to assume he’s just an Elon Stan.

he's one of the many people that elon """graciously gave""" (see: forced) the checkmark on in an attempt to make them look foolish because they said that they would never subscribe to twitter blue because it's a stupid idea and elon is a bitch

as for why he's relevant:

Shrecknet posted:

worse.

he's a Trump "frist post!" reply-guy who spent 4 straight years going "how dare you, sir!" like a text version of Keith Olbermann

to be fair to him some of his replies were funny but that's not surprising considering that he responded to literally every tweet trump made as president, something was bound to land

he's a terminally online weirdo regardless

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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hadji murad posted:

The funniest thing about Tiedrich is that he pays for Twitter

again:

Kith posted:

he's one of the many people that elon """graciously gave""" (see: forced) the checkmark on in an attempt to make them look foolish because they said that they would never subscribe to twitter blue because it's a stupid idea and elon is a bitch

no he doesn't

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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facebook tracks absolutely loving everything, up to and including which devices use which accounts. it is not far-fetched to assume that the threads app grabbed details from both accounts associated with the device in question

Shrecknet posted:

MISTRESS SEXCREEP

also it loving sucks that you're portraying sex workers as creeps, hth

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Neo Rasa posted:

This kind of stuff on Twitter is always bullshit or WILDLY exaggerated

This is not one such instance. It's been happening to pretty much anyone who has anything tied up with Meta and hasn't legally changed their name, such as several of my trans friends.

It's not great.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Vegetable posted:

You’re saying Meta scraped your friends’ legal name off the interweb and auto-changed their handle to it? Because that’s the claim being made by that account.

Yes.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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It's honestly pretty strange to me that so many goons lept to the defense of Facebook, given its history with privacy violations. Like... really? Facebook? As in "the company that's being blocked from even being allowed to launch Threads overseas because it's that much of a privacy nightmare" Facebook? THAT Facebook? You're finding it unlikely that they're doing sketchy poo poo with private information?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Main Paineframe posted:

Nobody accused her of making it up
literally the very next post. come the gently caress on.

Vegetable posted:

That story is almost certainly bogus


Owling Howl posted:

If a random person tweets that they found evidence that Hitler was a pedophile I would want a little more data not because I want to defend Hitler or don't believe him capable of it but because Twitter users encompass a vast group of people who can make mistakes and be wrong or are very dumb or have mental illness or are children or trolls making poo poo up or are paid agents looking to deliberately spread disinformation etc etc

there's a big loving difference between "seeking further information on an accusation" and "immediately reacting with disbelief and seeking to discredit the claimant for an unrelated reason in an attempt to absolve the accused of guilt"

i will give you a hint on what happened in this thread in response to that tweet: it was not the former.

Owling Howl posted:

If it's sufficient evidence for you, I think you'll end up with a lot of false beliefs. If you judge the credibility of a statement on your feelings about the subject you'll re-enforce and solidify your biases in a never-ending spiral towards more and more outlandish claims and conspiracy theories.

go be patronizing somewhere else.

Kith fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jul 15, 2023

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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if you don't want to be misunderstood in the future, perhaps you should say what you mean instead of deliberately using ambiguous terms so you don't have to clarify what you """actually meant""" later as part of some lame-rear end gotcha

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Vegetable posted:

I didn’t say that she was lying

Vegetable posted:

a false tweet

drat it really do be like that huh

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Clarste posted:

but Musk is an idiot

good thread title imo

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Old James posted:

Too bad it is desktop only.

I have good news for you

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Casual-wear AR will never take off unless it's 100% guaranteed to not have ads forced onto every single possible surface.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Clarste posted:

It will also never be developed unless it's 100% guaranteed to put ads everywhere.

:hmmyes:

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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musk couldn't name his kid a unicode character so he's doing it to twitter instead

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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My favorite part about the Stupid Name Bullshit is that Elon knows that he absolutely has to keep the Twitter brand on lockdown or someone else will use it and immediately increase their value exponentially.

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Kith
Sep 17, 2009

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Mercury_Storm posted:

Someone already posted this earlier but if it prevents anyone from creating a twitter account then godspeed:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirector/ocgpenflpmgnfapjedencafcfakcekcd

Include pattern: https://twitter.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard

Include pattern: https://x.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard



This sets up an auto redirect to an offsite that works very well and shows replies correctly and videos, etc.

It'd be nice if this was put in the OP.

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