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Ranter posted:Why is ETH better? Web3, metaverse, blockchain, NFT. Future, tesla, AI, bots, #nowork
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2022 10:35 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:04 |
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It's been awhile since I last asked, but what is the Greens position on the Voice? The longer the debate goes on, the more it seem they are on a unity ticket with Dutton and Abbott?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2023 11:34 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:There goes Lydia. lol
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2023 03:01 |
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:its actually very on brand to protest police presence at pride fwiw What does a youth support groups float have to do with it though?
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 04:48 |
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-06/pm-warns-no-constitutional-indigenous-recognition-if-voice-fails/102693828 Working with Pauline, Dutton and the Nats to vote no and encouraging people to vote no is the worst possible messaging.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 04:05 |
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Bald Stalin posted:Voting No is good. https://www.blackpeoplesunion.org/statements/voice-to-parliament https://ulurustatement.org/the-statement/view-the-statement/ It really isn't.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 05:19 |
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Bald Stalin posted:Someone didn't read the BPU statement lol I'm actually curious, why does that statement carry more weight in your decision making when compared to the Statement from the Heart? One of if not the largest consensus statement of First Nations groups?
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 05:30 |
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Bald Stalin posted:Why do you think a small group of people picked by the colonizers, ruling class and their collaborators, at a meeting from which some walked away, to ask for something that won't help the first nations plight and instead set back the cause, should trump the correct analysis given by the BPU and ACP? Hold up. That opening sentence is a doozy. I'll leave it at that.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 05:39 |
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:saying the statement from the heart was a consensus is kind of telling on yourself for not actually giving a poo poo about this because it was actually notable because it was not a consensus and a lot of the black people arguing for no were in fact part of that group that disagreed with the minutae of what it entailed As the largest consensus of First Nations peoples on a proposal for substantive recognition in Australian history, the road to the Uluru Statement from the Heart is a long one even without mentioning the decades of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander activism that came before it. True. I got that bit wrong. There was a small group of dissenting voices, as there always are. But again, if the majority agreed on the wording in the statement. In your decision making on how youre going to vote, what puts their voices behind a smaller groups who dissented/walked out?
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 05:53 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Like a lot of people I was eh on the voice til I saw all the worst people in the country furiously frothing against it. As long as you tell people its a progressive no, it's different. Write in "progressive" above the No on the ballot and theyll have to count the votes as Yes/No/Progressive No. Non Compos Mentis posted:remember: better things are not possible, so why even try If the question put was in line with the progressive no position, would you vote yes or would you want to have even better wording and vote no because things can always be better. EvilElmo fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Aug 7, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 7, 2023 02:50 |
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JBP posted:Labor really want it to get up, they're just doing a bad job. They think a four week super push will do it. I think a year of poison might win. At the beginning of the campaign the Greens were telling their supporters they will probably vote no and should vote no because the voice is poo poo. We had awkward silence from the Greens leadership. It took months until they finally had a position on it, split and in the process lost their Aboriginal affairs spokesperson to the crossbench.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2023 11:17 |
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ShoeFly posted:No it’s the Greens’ fault that the government hasn’t been able to communicate anything Greens haven't been saying much. Last media release I can find was on page 9 of their media releases back on 19 June. It is easy to say "drat Labor getting their message wrong and ruining the campaign!" When the Greens aren't campaigning. https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/voice-campaign-begins-sovereignty-motion-passes-senate
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2023 12:55 |
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Greens fold and pass the HAFF.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2023 05:02 |
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I'm advocating everyone vote no because it doesn't go far enough. Also, if the result is no, Australia is racist. I'm honestly confused by the progressive no camp.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2023 13:03 |
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GoldStandardConure posted:Went and voted today, but did not engage with any of the HTV people as I don't give a gently caress about insane people and their cooked pamphlet for idiots. The cookers with their HTVs are the path to yes winning.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2023 12:08 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:04 |
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Mola Yam posted:BRS at least had the support of the psycho "soldiers can never do anything wrong" crowd. No surprise you don't read The Australian, but yeah, they are.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2023 05:51 |