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Pressing F to pay respects 🫡
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2022 00:54 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 00:15 |
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If anyone's interested in the "whys" behind Rome's historical ability to just bury opponents in numbers, this is one of the better explanations I've seen: https://acoup.blog/2021/06/11/collections-the-queens-latin-or-who-were-the-romans-part-i-beginnings-and-legends/ tl;dr Rome stood out from contemporary polities due to its ability to assimilate outsiders: non-Romans could actually become Roman and wanted to. I wonder if Rome in the game getting some kind of total absorption CB is meant to reflect this, actually.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2022 13:58 |
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C — GISGO
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 21:48 |
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NewMars posted:I really have to wonder about a lot of foundational things like infrastructure and architecture that descended from the roman empire in western europe and how the carthaginian empire differs in such things here. Much better harbors, lighthouses, etc, but much worse roads or anything overland really.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2023 01:10 |
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I mean, if we want something to be the hosed up mess that was the HRE in our timeline, the actual remnant of Rome is near to being in the right place for it...
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2023 16:55 |
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hashashash posted:I also thought about stopping Imperator around 300 CE, but again it'll be a bit boring to just watch big powers blob for another couple hundred years You could potentially use that time to game out conversion options without doing full fledged updates, maybe?
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2023 17:08 |
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hashashash posted:as in let the game run to see what might happen? Maybe, or maybe a mix of that and just half-rear end playing (based on thread votes for the transition where appropriate/sensible) to see what develops.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2023 17:18 |
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sebzilla posted:Roll them bones
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2023 23:12 |
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DDDon't care
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2023 22:20 |
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EEE - let god sort it out
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2023 22:50 |
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A, B, and let's see Axum get big idk
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2023 21:38 |
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Xelkelvos posted:There's likely some level of syncreticism, but also potentially, if the Norse at the leading culture, an addition to the groups of gods such that in addition to the Aesir and Vanir, there's a third group called the Rumir or something. The Romans didn't really appear to give that much of a poo poo about their own customary religion over the long run, so it's also possible they just adopted the gods of the Norse wholesale through syncretic identification. So I like this idea.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2023 14:21 |
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Weavered posted:Well a portmanteau of Northmen and Romans is Normans… Also this!
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2023 14:21 |
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Luca_024 posted:Honestly, I don't really think this checks out? Non-codified religions are a complicated beast for us to understand when we're not used to that, but there's plenty of evidence that the romans who followed Hellenic religion were pretty drat serious about it. Many Christian traditions practiced to this day were adaptations of earlier Roman ones to make the jump easier for the Hellenic faithful - for example, archaeologists estimate Jesus was born around August, but we celebrate Christmas near the Winter Solstice because that's when an earlier, pagan Roman festival happened, and the traditions of gift-giving and tree-decorating come from there as well. Also, even after Christianity became the Empire's official religion, there is plenty of evidence of local elites maintaining pagan customs for a while. "Romans adopting Hellenic gods in the first place" is what I was thinking of, but fair enough. Although it's also worth noting that "Rome as continent-spanning empire" and "Rome as rump remnant out on the wilderness" are two pretty different situations. Whatever Romans might think, they aren't anywhere near as powerful as in OTL, so they're probably not in the driver's seat of the cultural merger.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2023 16:01 |
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It's the second best joke in that thread that a Byzantine Empire Paradox mega-LP ended up in a place where trying to revive the Roman Empire is the worst form of treason. (The best joke is Edward Gibbon being alive to comment on the fall of Rome as it happened in his time.)
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2023 14:33 |
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To be fair, I am not sure that example counts as a vote
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2023 16:48 |
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Fivemarks posted:Īsā ibn Maryam. fify (we should really play it safe)
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2023 16:03 |
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hashashash posted:also, i won't lie, i have absolutely no idea how we're supposed to take him/the Caliphate on. i can wait a while to see if they weaken, but... let's just say that's not looking very likely I think the main thing we've learned so far is how powerful the strategy is of entering a larger realm as a vassal with the same intent as a xenomorph larva slithering down a host's throat.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2023 02:16 |
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hashashash posted:that was the plan, but unfortunately Adonibaal's heir is a bit of a zealous nuthead, so wouldn't make much sense to swear fealty again Well, as long as he's not actually the King of Phoenicia, just effectively so, it's not technically his call. (He takes over Phoenicia in fairly short order, doesn't he...) GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Apr 9, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 9, 2023 12:48 |
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A
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 11:30 |
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C
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Rody One Half posted:I'll change from C to B. Same, now voting B
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 13:03 |
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B
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2023 12:23 |
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A - North Africa
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2023 16:54 |
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A
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2023 18:14 |
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D
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2023 16:00 |
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C
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 18:59 |
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B
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2023 04:07 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 00:15 |
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Could do B with a dash of A (ie B is the reason for the disease resistance underlying A)
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2023 17:15 |