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Who hasn't set fire to a boat they were still on? I know I have!
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Jan 5, 2023 01:07
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US House Speaker Election TVIV: Kevin Will Conditionally gently caress Himself
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Jan 5, 2023 05:12
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I wouldn't trust this court to preserve precedent, but otherwise, 
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could Dems potentially pull a Lincoln, find vulnerable Republicans in Biden leaning districts, older closer to retirement aged Republicans, people who seem more into this for money and power and try to bribe them with positions in the Executive branch to switch to D, or to soft ball future Dem primaries? They just need 6 Republicans to switch or support Jefferies or some lesser number and some number of Present/Abstainations? If this clown show keeps going for long enough this has gotta get more possible right? The Jan 6 committee Republicans found sinecures with the likes of CNN, so that or the various think tanks might be another possibility.
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Jan 5, 2023 19:49
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Representatives in right lane must vote right!
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Jan 5, 2023 23:05
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The Lone Badger posted:Sooo.... what do you do? I think your question wasn't properly phrased: the executive in the US is independent of the legislature. It's not a matter of a "government" not forming, it's a matter of one of the legislative houses not being able to function properly. The "government" (what people here usually call "the administration") is carrying on. If the Senate, rather than the House, were dysfunctional then there would be issues if any new secretary or other position holder that needs Senate approval had to be filled, and we've seen what happens when the Senate is just contrary throughout most of the Obama administration, so it would in some ways be similar.
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Jan 6, 2023 02:37
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Skippy McPants posted:Being one of the earlier modern democracies, we didn't have as many examples to look to when it came to closing stupid little cracks in our foundation, so a pretty astounding amount of our government relies on "civic tradition" to function. The US could have just created a system directly mirroring the contemporary UK parliament without a Crown, or done a better job stealing the structure of the Haudenosaunee.
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Jan 6, 2023 02:40
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The UK has no written constitution it's basically all civic tradition and convention So the US could have codified that instead of whatever the gently caress this nonsense we have is. "Let's create a system that cannot by design allow no confidence votes other than by a convoluted process requiring two houses and a supermajority" wasn't mandated by deciding a written constitution was necessary. The Lone Badger posted:But with the House not existing you're unable to pass Supply right? That's exactly what we don't have in the US. There's no mechanism for early elections. You just... don't have new taxes or authorized ways to spend. It's not been tested how the executive is supposed to deal with that, which is why people are worried about a default or talk about the $1T coin. Edit: We've had government shutdowns, which were resolved after a while, but if I'm not mistaken we've never gotten to the point where debts just weren't paid. Although I could be misremembering. Either way, even if that happens, there is no mechanism for an early general election. Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:generally speaking the removal of an executive, rather than the removal of the leader of the legislature requires a higher vote than a majority in countries with an elected executive There didn't need to be a directly elected executive. That, also, was not mandated by deciding to write a constitution out.
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Jan 6, 2023 02:54
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Feels Villeneuve posted:even in countries with constitutions its common for very "low level" functions about how the legislature operates to be based on convention or tradition. Don't know where you got that I'm arguing that other systems weren't built on convention. This was my OP: Absurd Alhazred posted:The US could have just created a system directly mirroring the contemporary UK parliament without a Crown, or done a better job stealing the structure of the Haudenosaunee.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm morbidly curious to know how Fox/OANN/Truth Social/etc. are somehow claiming this is the Democrats' fault. Not curious to go look, but still. If they're anything like the rightwingers Twitter insists on flooding my trending topics over there with, they're focusing on yelling at Biden.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:That's... what it is, though. The House of Commons is the House of Representatives, the House of Lords is the Senate, and the King is the President. It's just that in the last 240 years, the power of the Lords and King greatly declined into symbolic roles, while the Senate maintained its power and the President grew much stronger. If it actually mirrored this the President would appoint the government from members of the House (and the Senate), who would remain with their parliamentary duties, and the President would also be able to disband Parliament and call for an election.
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Gyges posted:Democrats continue handing votes to Jeffries, who has long history of denying elections Could you tl;dr that? I'm not giving them clicks.
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James Garfield posted:It's because Jeffries said the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian intelligence 
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Jan 6, 2023 04:09
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PostNouveau posted:It'd be funny if they aren't able to adjourn long enough for people to leave because they haven't been able to adopt rules so if a bunch of GOP left the Dems could just call a session on their own and elect Jeffries. Nuclear option would be that they could then unseat all Republicans who aided and abetted the Jan 6 insurrection, and wouldn't you know it, it's a Democratic Congress.
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gently caress it, Democrats should demand that the first order of business is to just cancel the debt ceiling.
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Reeker - it rhymes with "Speaker"
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Jan 6, 2023 23:09
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My (Democratic) state assembly member asked in a survey about term limits. Seems to come up every once in a while everywhere.
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Jan 7, 2023 00:06
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To me this is ironically a supply-side problem, you need to find a way of getting more pressure by new people in the process, so you can get more primary upsets like on Cantor and Crowley.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:how does a parallel line intersect Welcome to projective geometry.  E: f beaten like Kevin McCarthy
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Jan 7, 2023 01:37
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tanglewood1420 posted:As a non-American, two year terms for the House always seemed completely nuts. It seems like House Reps spend half their time campaigning for re-election. One of the first messages you usually get from your elected representative is an invitation for a fundraiser for their next election.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also my preferred interpretation of this clause is that anyone born via c section is not eligible to be president. 
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Jan 7, 2023 03:10
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Jan 7, 2023 03:15
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Yeah but there’s no possibility of a snap election so it kinda balances out. A snap election is better in my opinion, it forces a rethink when things aren't working anymore instead of just flushing the toilet every two years hoping that this time will be better.
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Jan 7, 2023 03:22
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Chuck Bartowski posted:I'm going to laugh my rear end off if they still can't elect McCarthy after all of this bloviating 
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Jan 7, 2023 04:15
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McCarthy was just laughing for some reason.
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"Kevin's stuck in our craw, can't elect, can't move to adjourn"
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You all keep joking about Gaetz` pedophilia and I just wanted to say keep doing it gently caress him.
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Rigel posted:yeah, ok that is now official, the rebels have surrendered. The only way McCarthy loses is if a fresh new backstabber suddenly emerges.
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Pyrrhus looking mighty smug over there.
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Jan 7, 2023 06:30
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This would be a great time for enough people to switch votes to break the whole thing, but we live in an unjust world. 
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If SNL hasn't got him already they're going to have someone go all in on his weird hand movements.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Why did McCarthy want this again? It's His Turn.
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They get to choose their own book. There was one who swore over a Superman comic or something this time, wasn't there?
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Twincityhacker posted:It was a pretty cute setup for Robert Garcia. He was sworn in on a copy of the US Consitution, but underneath was his citizen certificate, a photo of his parenrts who died of COVID-19, and the aforementioned Superman comic. 
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