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Pander posted:They didn't want to be there, raping and looting and murdering civilians. They were FORCED to. So have some empathy! I can't believe America forced innocent Russian soldiers to do this...
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Mar 5, 2023 20:57
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FirstnameLastname posted:the russian conscripts are largely, at the individual level, victims of the russian state's aggression about as much as the ukranian conscripts and civilians ar This is an insane comparison and I really hope going "invaders deserve as much sympathy as the people being invaded" doesn't become a vibe in this thread, Jesus gently caress. I don't want goreposting, I don't want people making cringe posts about how rad it is to see people die, but this kind of poo poo swings WAY too far in the opposite direction.
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Mar 5, 2023 23:19
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Deteriorata posted:I don't want them to die, I want them to go home. That's the only "no one dies" option. This. I understand what you are saying FirstnameLastname but I'm not really sorry if I lack sympathy for individual elements of an invading imperial aggressor. I don't see the need to spend much time splitting hairs over individual levels of culpability for an invading force already guilty of war crimes against civilians. Also you can't tell me "that's not what i said :|", you quite literally typed the words "the russian conscripts are largely, at the individual level, victims of the russian state's aggression about as much as the ukranian conscripts and civilians are" and then went on use WWII as an example of "no such thing as good guys vs bad guys". Like, if your point was "no such thing as people without blood on their hands in war", sure, but you picked WWII... The firebombings of Dresden and Tokyo were warcrimes, but labeling a reactive war fought against fascism as morally grey is a huge loving stretch and I think it does a disservice to your point, as does, again, literally saying russian conscripts are as much victims of the Russian state as Ukrainian civilians.
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Mar 5, 2023 23:58
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Futanari Damacy posted:If we're to be successful with this, one thing that has to stop is the false equivalencies. They're a huge red flag for a number of reasons. This post is already getting dunked on for the obvious thing but I don't want to let it get lost in the mix that the chain of quotes here was someone making an honest if clumsy post about how there should be sympathy for individual soldiers even on the Russian side while in the same post giving as an example of the same principle World War 2. de_dust's point that Futanari Damacy quoted wasn't simply "Russia = Wehrmacht", it was a very specific callback to the myth of the clean Wehrmacht and how the post that started this unintentionally mirrored it when it removed the clear moral dimension from World War 2. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 10:54
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Futanari Damacy posted:Oh no... anything but that! Good job quoting the one bit that sounds vaguely OK out of context from the article that tries to Blood & Soil Ukraine but did so in such a triumphant tone two days into the war just as the poo poo hit the fan wrt how hard fought it would be that they pulled it. “The resolution of the Ukraine question.” is the name of the article. lol quote:“Russia is restoring its historic unity: the tragedy of 1991, that terrible catastrophe of our history, that unnatural aberration, has been overcome.” This is from the same article, the assumption being that the article would be published once the strikes against Kiev decapitated the government and the whole country collapsed. lol, yeah, great article. quote:But there will now no longer be a Ukraine which is anti-Russia.” Hmm not too sure about this one, tovarich. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 13:27
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1633810221054279680 Toxic Mental posted:6. No more reddit-style content garbage. NAFO poo poo and the like is generally cringey and it's just boring white noise. Things that make light of the extremely serious nature of this conflict aren't going to be allowed. Putin Monkey is still okay though, as it was valid before this war even started. ???? I mean, it's going to run out naturally and who cares about what's effectively a 6er at this point, but could it be clarified if Putin monkee is now probatable or not?
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Mar 10, 2023 10:42
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Slugworth posted:....... I was responding to a guy who was arguing that the us invasion of Iraq was less evil than the Russian invasion. I mean, is it worth it to waste your time responding to a post like that? Both things are bad and trying to determine which is "worse" or "more evil" based on a duel between casualties and broader impact seems... Idk, cringe? "More people died in X (concluded) war, but in Y (ongoing) war the goals are more insidious." seems like really tiresome, pointless poo poo to me.
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Mar 20, 2023 02:39
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The Vietnamese did not have to do a single thing to the main-land US in order to win. Russia is losing men and material daily while support for Ukraine is steady. Why would Ukraine jeopardize that with a land-invasion of Russia? Like, it's one thing to argue that if Russia starts really going crazy with ammo/fuel dumps riiiiight close to the border which are contributing to logistics that they can be seen as legitimate targets and quite another to start fantasizing about Ukraine somehow managing to threaten/control a territory even a third the size of Russia's. This entire line of argument feels very fever-dream Clancy-chat-esque.
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Mar 28, 2023 15:31
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Tarquinn posted:☝🏻 Considering that people are catching strays and being called Pedo-adjacent for posting itt (along with the usual framing that this thread is nothing but wall to wall untagged auto-playing gore) idk if it's great advice to suggest people go participate in what's happening in SAD. I am not adding to the discussion itself here, I'm commenting on this being the second prompt itt suggesting people go post in SAD like it's something casual, and I don't think that's good advice unless people know what they are getting themselves into.
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Apr 17, 2023 12:15
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Philonius posted:Sorry mods, but this thing is an orc. gently caress off with this kind of post.
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Apr 17, 2023 18:18
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thekeeshman posted:Speaking of bad takes from the BRICS, Lula has joined many of his fellow "leftists" in gargling Putin's balls Lula is less pro-Putin than he is anti-NATO, and I think everyone should be able to realize why a leftist leader in South America that had to directly deal with far-right bullshit that either had direct or tacit backing of the USA might be a little inclined to say the things Lula says. That's before you even factor in the broader history of the USA's direct involvement with South America. I am not saying he's right, I'm saying he at least has some reason that explains it beyond the usual tankie nonsense from Euros or Americans. Like, the above was his position all the way until just a day ago or so, and was getting a lot of press in Portugal due to the run-up of Lula's visit to Lisbon for the anniversary of the Carnation Revolution that overthrew Salazar. Yesterday however he stated that he "condemns the violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity" in unambiguous terms even if his position is still "negotiated settlement, as soon as possible". This marks a big pullback in his statements and I think it should be highlighted. https://www.dn.pt/internacional/apos-criticas-lula-condena-violacao-da-integridade-territorial-da-ucrania-16201008.html Source is in Portuguese, I can translate anything else in the article if anyone is curious.
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Apr 19, 2023 17:23
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My understanding of AI is that their coverage of Israel/Palestine is pretty good? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Apr 28, 2023 12:04
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I take it they were crashing a Ukrainian event in that park? Security seemed kinda' on the ball but a lot of the stuff caught on camera in those clips seems to have not had a response from them.
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May 11, 2023 14:19
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Bertha the Toaster posted:The writing on ammunition thing is weird. Also, weren't they banned from being posted in the thread? Yes, yes they were.
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May 18, 2023 14:13
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Antigravitas posted:Do people think the UN is a world government of some sort? Yes. A UN-led coup leading to the One World Government is a classic modern American conspiracy theory. Blue Helmets! Black Helicopters! FEMA Death-Camps! Tai posted:Would be pretty good if the idea of permanent members was scrapped tbh. Being able to block everyone with a veto only a few countries have is pretty poo poo. I'm sure countries like Palestine would like this a lot. This kills the UN. The security council, permanent seats and the veto power afforded to them is the only reason the UN lives while the League of Nations died. I don't think Palestine benefits particularly much from that happening. Not saying it would hurt them more than they already are hurting, but who knows. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 15:40
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stephenthinkpad posted:Just randomly think of this, was blowing up Dugin's daughter Ukraine's dumbest plot to drag NATO into war? Big if true Hey guys just randomly had a thought but what if Euro Maidan was a secret decades-long NATO plot to get Putin to poo poo his pants? Likely?
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Jun 13, 2023 12:26
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Whoops, meant to post it in the thread where everyone would sensibly chuckle instead of clowning on me, my bad.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:34
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Tiny Timbs posted:What do people think NATO even is lol Satan, but for ostensibly left-presenting folks online.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:49
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Jun 26, 2023 11:59
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Aesop Poprock posted:"pro-Europeanism" on zelenskys party site yeah I'm sure that's not a Nazi thing It's a Globe-Emoji Lib thing.  Aesop Poprock posted:Nah I'll admit I hosed up on that one but I was trying really hard. I've posted multiple times that if I'm wrong about this I'm wrong Yeah you're a loving moron.
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Jul 17, 2023 09:42
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The war is cringe.
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Jul 17, 2023 12:21
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beer_war posted:https://twitter.com/EmineDzheppar/status/1682991081506390016?s=20 The cathedral they hit was the Transfiguration Cathedral, founded in 1794. РОССИЯ is truly the world's greatest defender of trad-Orthodox values. e.: "Fun" detail - the original cathedral was demolished by the Soviets in 1936, rebuilt only in 1999. Man I can't put my finger on why the Eastern Euros keep being so hostile towards Russia... KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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Jul 23, 2023 13:09
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Autisanal Cheese posted:Jesus Christ well that settles it then This has happened already itt before. Willo is now a source of calm and reason. We should give his balls a rest.
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Jul 24, 2023 10:50
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