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I wonder what happens if you happen to miss a piece of rock falling from the sky. Like if there's any other way to know where those are, since they seem necessary to reach the sky (or at least parts of it). One other thing I noticed is that the "battery power" of the engine things doesn't seem sufficient to actually travel from the surface to the sky islands*, which makes me think that one part of the trailer with the flying machine was likely "it flying from one island to another" instead of "flying from the ground up to an island." I like how this will basically give you a bunch of tools to completely circumvent the need for stamina, since you can always just create a thing to send you fly up a mountain (or teleport up to the top if it there's a cave). * though I wonder if you could do something like combine balloons with the engines so that you can just float while they recharge before launching yourself up higher. incorporeal posted:I'm going to play the new Zelda game I'm going to stop you, and everyone else, from playing it. I will cast an extremely powerful spell by burning my life force to accomplish this. But I will die with a smile on my face, knowing that I have prevented the world from playing the game The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (the tears are from the people who can't play the game anymore)
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Mar 29, 2023 02:01
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Tender Bender posted:Great detailed OP! I just wanna say we do know the fourth ability, it's Recall. They use it early in the trailer to rewind a fallen object to ride it back up in the sky. Finally, a Tenet game. While everyone is (reasonably) excited about the Fuse/Ultrahand abilities, I'm curious about the potential uses of Recall. It's hard for me to think of many off the top of my head, but I'm sure there will be a bunch. Maybe you can Rewind enemies to send them back away from you? There will probably be rocks rolling off of mountains periodically as a method to climb them. Albatrossy_Rodent posted:One thing that I'm super excited about now is puzzles. I love BotW's approach, every puzzle feels so tactile, like you're a kid playing with toys (even if a few shrines were a tad undercooked). They seem to expanding that even further. I imagine dungeons will have the tools you need for a necessary vehicle locked away behind smaller puzzles or combat, but you'll be able to skip some pieces with cleverness and a touch of jank. Despite being kind of critical of BotW's lack of "things to find," I like the shrines a lot. It's always exciting seeing what puzzle the next one has in store, and they get pretty creative with some of them (in ways that I kind of wish were integrated more outside of optional side content).
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Mar 29, 2023 05:31
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This game is going to lead to a lot of Youtube videos with titles like "Can you beat Tears of the Kingdom with just a mushroom?!"
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Mar 29, 2023 09:31
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Procrastine posted:
loving hell...what's next friendly bokoblins? Ganondorf the shop-keeper selling me milk?! This isn't the Zelda of my youth... GATOS Y VATOS posted:My take is that the ascend ability won’t make dungeons obsolete, but it potentially can make a new way of exploration possible to find secret passages or ways around a seemingly impossible way to get to a cave offshoot. Think of what CAN be done, not what can’t, that is what made BOTW great. Ascend is potentially one of the cooler ideas, depending on what they do with it. I'm imagining situations where there are actually chambers inside of buildings/caves that you can only get to using Ascend. It would be exciting to sometimes try to reach a mountain top and instead come across some chamber with loot inside the mountain. ScootsMcSkirt posted:i wonder if you can use the ascend ability to get to the sky islands IMO they should let you always use Ascend, but if there's no surface for you Ascend to you get a game over of Link gradually being asphyxiated as he reaches extreme altitudes RuBisCO posted:I haven't played botw since 2017 so I don't care it might as well be a new map to me because of brain rot In my case I just never played BotW that thoroughly, so I only really know stuff like "desert is in the bottom left, Zora on the right, etc." I'm actually happier with the idea of a "changed BotW map," because it will allow for a lot of environmental storytelling through just seeing how things are different. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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Mar 29, 2023 19:06
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:When Xenoblade 2 and 3 got announced in random nintendo directs they had like, 20 minutes of cutscene and gameplay. 3 in particular showed way too much in its Direct, though. Nearly every single zone in the game is present in the trailer, which kind of sucked because I kept thinking "drat I've still just seen the trailer content, which must mean there are other cool zones I haven't seen" and then this just never happened and I realized that pretty much every zone except for the literal final zone of the game was in the trailers/Direct. Still a great game, but I was a bit bummed out at the end because I was expecting some big final act that never came. One cool thing about BotW is that the game itself actually had a ton of stuff not in the trailers (even if it wasn't story content). If someone saw the trailer and thought "drat I wonder what sort of other places I'll find," they'd actually be satisfied/surprised by the actual game. I generally agree with you that I'd like to see more story content in the game (not necessarily cutscenes though). I'll still enjoy it regardless, but my biggest gripe about BotW is the relative lack of NPC engagement. The weird NPCs are one of the best things about Zelda (and something BotW did very well during the limited times you did engage with them). Palmtree Panic posted:Its pretty refreshing that they showed so little of this game so far. Most games have huge media blow-outs where they show off most of everything. I generally get "they're confident about the game" vibes from its marketing. I get similar vibes from the FF16 marketing. For a very exaggerated example of a game that had bad vibes throughout all its marketing - Forspoken Long-Time Lurker posted:It's interesting that BotW both got praised for innovating open-world games from critics and got called "empty sandbox" from fans who don't like it. IMO BotW's world actually is kinda empty (you're rarely going to find anything aside from Korok seeds, shrines, or chests), but it has an extremely good look/feel (I guess you could say "vibes") that makes going around collecting doodads more enjoyable than in, say, your average Ubisoft title. Also the shrines are cool and work well as a doodad to collect. The combination of "getting a (possibly) fun new puzzle" + "unlocking a new fast travel point" makes them feel better than just collecting something to fulfil a checklist. I hope that they'll take advantage of having a lot of the work already done to populate the world with more interesting things to find/do.
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Mar 29, 2023 19:28
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Manoueverable posted:I always saw this criticism as favoring the destination over the journey because it's almost always couched in terms of "you climb the mountain or solve the puzzle but you *only* get a seed/shrine out of it." Like, enjoy the ride, admire the view and then glide off to wherever your whims decide to carry you next. It shouldn't be a game you treat like a checklist. I feel like the only two options here aren't just "admire the view" and "collect nonsense like an Ubisoft game." BotW already has the stuff I like, but I'd just like to see more of it. More NPCs with substantive content associated with them, more villages with more stuff to do in them. In BotW you can very quickly do most of what a village has to offer in terms of side quests. I couldn't care less about loot/rewards, but I just like interacting with the various bizarre and interesting Zelda NPCs. Basically just making BotW denser with what it already has. This isn't really a criticism of BotW (since it does so much other stuff that it would be a pretty unreasonable ask), but it's something I'd like to see in the sequel since they don't have to spend as much time doing the basics of creating the world, many of its assets, etc.
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Mar 29, 2023 23:53
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:...Are there even korok puzzles in this game? The Korok have been infected by Malice. Instead of finding them, you must exterminate them. This is a darker, more adult Zelda game. I hope you're prepared.
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Mar 30, 2023 20:38
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WarpDogs posted:this bothered me even when I was a kid I remember downloading the Japanese ROM for Pokemon Gold/Silver (before the game actually came out in the west) and thinking it was the coolest thing ever how you return to the towns from Red/Blue.
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Mar 31, 2023 22:19
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Icedude posted:I'm still betting it was the Zonai who dealt with Ganon 10,000 years previously, and then got betrayed by the Hylian Royal Family because they tend to be shitheads like that. Also that Ancient Sheikah tech is a lovely knockoff attempt at Zonai constructs made afterwards that were never actually used for real, which is why Ganon could take them over. This is a cool theory and I kind of hope it's the case.
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Mar 31, 2023 22:24
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My Second Re-Reg posted:At what point in the leadup to this game did people come to believe we weren't going to be, at least in part, exploring Hyrule? Yeah I'm not sure how they could have done "a direct sequel to BotW" without re-using the map in some capacity. I don't think most people would have been very happy if the game took place in some completely new country without any of the known Zelda areas like Death Mountain, Kakariko, Hyrule Castle, etc. The only element to the "it's bad they're re-using stuff" argument that I kind of agree with is that it *is* pretty weird that they seem to be reusing stuff like the horse riding and stable music. I'm really not sure what to make of that, since it seems like one of the most obvious things to update.
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Apr 1, 2023 20:50
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kidcoelacanth posted:i did a zero fast travel playthrough of botw a while back and it was really satisfying I probably have more free time than most people, and this would still be way too much for me. Do people seriously do this any time they want to restock arrows or whatever? Just go on a giant marathon to various towns? Usually my approach to exploration is "teleport to top of tower, look around for something I want to check out and go there." Maybe it makes more sense during repeated runs where you've already seen most stuff in the game? In that case I could understanding encountering more new stuff through taking weird/tedious routes. But at least for a first play-through, you'll definitely find more neat stuff by actually heading towards stuff that looks neat at a distance (and the game itself supports this with the towers + ability to mark stuff with the camera). Usually when I head off in a random direction, the most I'll find is "a place with some high-tier cows to kill."
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Apr 1, 2023 21:49
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quiggy posted:"Reused map" really means "geography is the same". If you think the quests or stuff to find will be the same idk to what to say to you This is partly why I actually like the idea of the "re-used map." It gives a point of reference that can make any quests/changes more interesting. And it's not like the broad geography in BotW was a secret; you can climb any of the towers and see the general lay of most of the map. You're not exactly going to stumble across most of the major geographical features unless you're deliberately avoiding ever going to high places. I can understand the appeal of exploring a completely new overworld map, but there's also a separate appeal to exploring "the same geography, but with different stuff in it."
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Apr 1, 2023 22:22
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Unlucky7 posted:One thing I do want is some sort of transmogrification/glamour system. This would be really nice. I'll never wear something like the big anti-flame suit. I always used alternatives to that, even if they required tediously crafting elixirs.
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Apr 2, 2023 00:17
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Albatrossy_Rodent posted:I kind of like when games make you wear whatever works best, regardless of driplessness. Your outfit signals purpose rather than style. In that case it should be entire outfits. Wearing anti-flame pants and some other chest/headpiece isn't going to be any more effective than not wearing them. Or there should be a way to easily swap outfits, so you can have a "anti-flame loadout" and what have you.
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Apr 2, 2023 00:32
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Augus posted:not true at all, individual pieces of gear in BoTW give you bonuses, not just the full sets. there are many areas in botw where you only need one piece of gear with heat/cold resistance and then you can use the other two slots on whatever. I know; my point is that if someone is arguing "you should need to wear appropriate gear for realism," then BotW's system of piecemeal buffs conflicts with that. I meant that "just wearing an anti-flame helmet wouldn't really do anything for you in reality but does in the game, so you might as well just let people change their appearance however they want."
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Apr 2, 2023 01:22
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Khanstant posted:The cutscenes will only be viewable through an app on your phone. If you want to download the app you need to fax Nintendo headquarters the request and hope they approve you as a true fan. You need to join Nintendo's IRC channel, which will supply you with a username/password to ssh into a server where the encrypted cutscenes can be downloaded.
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Apr 3, 2023 19:25
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quiggy posted:the smoke coming out of the stables in the totk gameplay is actually the new feature where you can turn your horse into glue If they let you slaughter countless other animals for materials, why not horses as well? I'm pretty sure pigs are more intelligent than horses, and you can kill the hell out of those. edit: Ultrahand actually requires glue harvested from horses to function
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Apr 3, 2023 20:25
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^^^ While this is an argument in favor of killing the pigs, it isn't an argument against killing the horses!Capfalcon posted:I felt SO bad when my first horse died, even though it had terrible stats. If you ever caused at least one horse to die, you can't get the true ending and instead just get a screen consisting of gravestones for each horse that died under your command.
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Apr 3, 2023 20:27
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TotK should have perma-death
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Apr 4, 2023 00:06
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Martman posted:aka Link durability Ganon is horrified as a grotesque chimera-Link approaches him, holding multiple copies of the Master Sword in each of his 19 hands/tentacles.
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Apr 4, 2023 19:32
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superjew posted:I was listening to Sins of Hyrule this morning and I’m excited to see what Hyrule Castle is like this time around. This is pretty plausible. The only thing I can think of that makes it conceptually iffy is that the "core" Deku Tree isn't even remotely on the scale of a lot of those trunks size-wise (though I guess there's nothing preventing it from being a lot smaller).
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Apr 5, 2023 19:13
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Here is my take on the master sword so far... I definitely did not have many weapons better than it. At the time I got the Master Sword, the only one-handed swords I had in reasonable supply were Knight's Broadswords, which are a bit weaker than the Master Sword. I find it a nice quality of life thing. I just use it until it "breaks," and it helps act as a buffer where I can collect more weapons in the meanwhile.
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Apr 5, 2023 22:26
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The Maroon Hawk posted:It would be insanely funny if this game has playable Zelda and Nintendo doesn’t say a word about it before release They should introduce a completely new playable character instead. The game's deuteragonist will be a young man from Hateno Village named Finny. Link with pass the torch to Finny at the end of the game - a new hero for a new era.
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Apr 7, 2023 01:14
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dublish posted:Can't wait to be playing this game in five weeks. I think it would be interesting if Nintendo came out and said "just kidding!" on the release date, and revealed that all the gameplay ootage was actually just precompiled, as a joke.
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Apr 9, 2023 09:10
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External Organs posted:Wish I could play link between worlds. I've never had a 3DS. I love the 3DS and genuinely mourn the fact that we'll probably never get a "proper" dedicated handheld like it again. I even liked its 3d gimmick, but it just had a great feel to it in general (particularly the larger later version). The Switch isn't really portable in the same way; you can't put it in your pocket and it just has a very different feel to it in general.
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Apr 11, 2023 00:12
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I can't remember Link Between Worlds much, but I do remember that I enjoyed it a lot and quickly finished it, which is a big deal because I'm extremely bad about finishing games, especially when they don't have very strong "page-turner" narratives. So it must have been really good.
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Apr 11, 2023 01:04
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kidcoelacanth posted:i used the interactive map to finally pin down all the korok seeds and have that accomplishment under my belt before totk.... but i messed up somewhere and i'm missing exactly 1 korok with no idea where it is Well, it looks like you need to go through all of them until you find the one you missed. These things happen.
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Apr 12, 2023 19:24
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Just watched the trailer. That looks like a lot of game, jeez. How do they even fit that much game onto a Switch cartridge?
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Apr 13, 2023 19:34
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It also seems like this game might have more plot stuff than Breath of the Wild, which would be nice.
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Apr 13, 2023 21:09
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Captain Hygiene posted:What's Malladus? Are you seriously telling us that you don't remember Malladus? loving Malladus, one of the most iconic villains in Nintendo - if not all of video gaming - history?
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Apr 13, 2023 23:24
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Blaziken386 posted:also my number one hope for TotK is that they make rain not be absolutely terrible I like when the lizard guys keep getting themselves shocked, though. Drop some metal stuff like the ground and let enemies walk into it. It's also usually not *too* hard to find a place to make a fire near most climbable mountains/walls. But I agree that the whole "disabling climbing" aspect is pretty annoying. You should at least have some other way to "defeat" that mechanic.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:52
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The Zelda Timeline is funny because of how transparently obvious it is that they made it up long after the fact and had to force all the games into it. I don't mind the idea of long-term Zelda Lore, but it's still pretty funny seeing people attempt to do serious Lore Analysis based off of the timeline.
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Apr 14, 2023 00:31
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Blaziken386 posted:its incredibly ramshackle and contrived but thats what makes it fun. like yes obviously every game is standalone but what if I feel like there must have been some way to create the timelime without the three separate branches. Like just place everything that could have happened at any point as having occurred prior to OoT. IIRC only Windwaker really introduces a big thing that would be incompatible with many of the other games happening after it.
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Apr 14, 2023 00:39
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Augus posted:didn't that turn out to just be people online getting confused by japanese pronoun ambiguity I just looked up an example, and it seems implied to be from first-person. This one I'm looking at now ends with something like "I want to see her smile once more with these eyes" (kanojo no egao wo mou ichidou kono me de mitai), and I'm not sure how to read that other than in first-person. That being said, people absolutely exaggerate the differences, and most of the stuff people talk about the quest log "revealing" is extremely obvious and unsurprising (like the "I want to see Zelda again" stuff above, or stuff implying Link is sometimes competitive).
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Apr 14, 2023 02:08
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I'm really hoping for some sort of twist regarding what happened during the previous calamity. There's a lot of room for one to be plausible, given the amount of time and how vague the tapestry is. Also, is the sword guy's hair red? I'm colorblind so I can't tell, but that seems like a pretty strong implication it's not Link if so. Edit: The princess part seems flat-out likely, given the darker skin on the tapestry. Hard to explain that otherwise. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 02:16
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IMO Fi should stop complaining, because this is what she signed up for
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Apr 14, 2023 02:37
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WarpDogs posted:my speculation is that the Zonai were like the Sheikah in the 10,000 years ago war, creating tech, keeping divine secrets, serving the royal family etc. This is the tech the Sheikah later unearthed and adapted in the 100 year ago war - also the same tech Ganon took over super easily By this understanding the Sheikah never "created tech, kept secrets, etc" though; you're proposing that the Zonai actually created the tech and the Sheikah didn't really do much of anything until they unearthed it before the 100 years ago war. In BotW you're told that ancient Sheikah created the tech (guardians, towers, divine beasts, etc), and this seems plausible given we've seen Zonai tech and it looks pretty different (somewhat similar, but still obviously different, so I don't think stuff like guardians was directly created by the Zonai). But it also seems like that tapestry is not showing Link/Zelda, so I'm not sure what the explanation will end up being (but I'm curious to find out).
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Apr 14, 2023 05:05
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The cave in the the new trailer was really big! I'm happy about the caves. Exploring caves is just inherently cooler than exploring other things.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:46
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Exploring the sky is cooler than exploring caves tbh. Caves are cool because you go down tunnels and don't know what's going to be in the tunnels. The sky is cool too, but you can see where you're going.
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Apr 14, 2023 08:51
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Mustached Demon posted:What was weirder was the English translation had to have the exact same length voice lines as the Japanese version else the game broke. Having replayed FFX recently, it's really remarkable how good its English voice-acting is for the era, especially given the issues like you describe. Most of the characters are very accurate reproductions of their Japanese voices, and the ones that aren't (namely Auron) are still good in a different way. Yuna and Tidus in particular are pretty much perfectly cast. People post the laughing scene as an example of "bad old voice-acting," but that's because they completely misunderstand the scene. It's supposed to sound goofy and forced! The original Japanese version of the scene is very similar.
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