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kliras
Mar 27, 2021
very basic explainer of demands in this

https://twitter.com/adamconover/status/1653272585252257793

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kliras
Mar 27, 2021
a great longer-form explanation of just how bad the residual terms are for streaming (spoiler, it's orders of magnitude less)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79p9bt3DXqE

i also forgot hbo memory-holed friggin westworld because they didn't want to keep paying residuals; this poo poo's a hat-trick of fuckery affecting both the present, future, and past

https://twitter.com/natums/status/1602765363480907777

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
give amazon some credit, there has to be at least a little bit of money-laundering to justify this

https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1651596852142260224

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
we're all very shocked

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1654578842944634884

quote:

The Disney letter (read it in full, below) features a Q&A informing showrunners that they are “required” to perform duties that are not in line with the guidance provided by the WGA to its around 11,500 striking members.

The memo specifically states that in showrunner and/or writer-producer roles, “you may, along with other non-writing services, be required to perform services commonly referred to as ‘a. thorough h.’ services as a producer,” such as cutting for time, small changes to dialogue or narration made before or during production and “changes in technical or stage directions.” These are duties that, according to the WGA’s contract, non-writers can perform on covered projects.

However, the WGA strike rules explicitly prohibit union members from performing these activities during the 2023 work stoppage. “The Rules prohibit hyphenates (members who are employed in dual capacities) from performing any writing services, including the ‘(a) through (h)’ functions,” the rules state, which puts showrunners and writer-producers in a difficult position, caught between the dictates of their employers and their union.

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

High Warlord Zog posted:

Tony Gilroy blink twice if the Disney lawyer who showed you that memo has a gun to your head
ON. PROGRAM.

https://twitter.com/io9/status/1654857440448634882

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
from an exec prod/showrunner

https://twitter.com/magicbranch/status/1654970859059310593

e:
https://twitter.com/jonrog1/status/1654874085707640833

kliras fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 7, 2023

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
better

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1656154515316375552

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

Happy Landfill posted:

https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/1661206309532848130?s=20

Feel like Martin Scorsese and Steven Speilberg aren't going to be too happy about this

And I'm sorry, the HBO Go=>HBO Max=>MAX it one of the stupidest bits of corporate micromanagement I've ever seen
well it gets stupider

they lost a lot of european countries to netflix because of the insane segmentation of video available through all of these crazy services. netflix (at the time) at least felt like everyone was watching the same stuff across the world

i guess the greatest irony is that europeans finally benefit from not getting the latest from the us, which means we keep the original hbo app for now

kliras fucked around with this message at 19:20 on May 24, 2023

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
lol this loving guy

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1661409318145490944

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
before hbo max came out, the bitrate on regular hbo looked like it was 3500 or something crazy. i remember doing the trial of regular hbo, and it was basically unwatchable. i think people would watch/rip the episodes when they dropped on amazon for reasons i don't even remember

hbo are definitely ruining everything now (again), but the good days didn't last as long for many of us as some would have us think. and they still screwed up their 4:3 remasters

kliras fucked around with this message at 11:55 on May 26, 2023

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
is the nanny (fran drescher) going to be the one to announce that actors are going on strike? should be a fun moment in hollywood history

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
it's also easy to look decent next to ike perlmutter and bob chapek tbf

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
more stories more awful than the last keep coming out about actors and writers getting screwed over

https://twitter.com/stevendeknight/status/1680022094510460929

(deknight also worked in spartacus previously, an awesome show people should check out)

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

teen witch posted:

Curious to see what actors and writers will scab

I know this will end with me disappointed with someone I liked, but so be it
let's hope jayz doesn't throw any parties

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
this strike also happens just as netflix and hbo are starting to serve ads. they need to offer advertisers some viewership data to negotiate cpm and fixed ad placements, so hopefully the unions can access that eventually

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

Donnerberg posted:

Hell, a lot of the streaming sites even know when you don't have their stream focused, like when you're in another window or doing things on another monitor. Netflix used to temporarily lower their bitrate if their stream wasn't in focus over a longer period.
this is partly due to a recent addition of the page visibility api btw. it probably also offers tracking capability in some form, but it depends on how granular you want your tracking to be

the thing i'm more worried about is how netflix and others will come up with loopholes for future discussions of residuals and kpi's by saying "well aaactually, the viewer only watched 80% of the episode (by skipping the intro theme and end credits), sooo" when it comes to contractual obligations

we've seen companies like facebook overcounting views, and i'm sure we might see the opposite weaponization of kpi misinfo

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
dude's about to show what happens to a struck work's pr campaign if people actually continue promoting it, i'll give him that

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
i think the main thing about people like mrbeast is that everyone's kind of forced to have an opinion on him because of how much the internet insists on recommending his stuff to you

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
already deleted

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

...! posted:

They did this with The Society and it really pissed me off. That show was much better than I expected and I was really happy that they renewed it. Netflix got me looking forward to season two and then cancelled it not long after they renewed it.

What the gently caress, Netflix? :mad:
i think kingdom was the other way around where they cancelled it around the time i was getting into season 1/2 - and still released a bunch of seasons after? which made me stop watching a show i was intereste in

netflix just seems uniquely awful in communicating any of this. on top of even promoting movies and tv shows that are actually premiering

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

Oxxidation posted:

now I’m no c-level with a fancy gold Rolodex but this seems like money better spent on bribes and sabotage
maybe the pinkertons are thinking about unionizing too at this point

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
hey man, suits was always a great show. and it felt like one the actors seemed to have fun doing

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
you love to see it

https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1702466164570329216

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
there's always dramaturgy in reality tv, so i guess that makes sense

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kliras
Mar 27, 2021
lol at the "the streamers are uniting" narrative in the article ... with the minor exceptions of apple, amazon, and alphabet/google/youtube

i saw this mentioned yesterday with a fairly different angle, but that's the trade mags for ya

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