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Anti-Hero posted:A 1st and a 2nd place finish. Overall very pleased. Nice sorry CMC busted for you but a 1 and 2 finish is pretty impressive.
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vaginite posted:Nice sorry CMC busted for you but a 1 and 2 finish is pretty impressive. Thanks! I really appreciated your advice in the finals. James Conner, Brandin Cooks/Demarcus Robinson (I started the latter in addition to Higgins ) were all great calls but when Butker, Davonte, Breece, Fields all pop off for 25+ and CMC and R. White put up their worst games of the year, I was completely doomed. My opponent did to me what I did to others in the semis.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:40 |
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Anti-Hero posted:Thanks! No prob! Glad it worked I always get nervous putting up advice because there's a huge risk you end up looking like a giant moron lol so I'm glad those guys did what I said they would (and Henry sucking poo poo). Cya next year.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:42 |
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It's an uphill battle if your early picks all bust or get hurt but yeah definitely possible if you nail some waiver adds and/or trades. And have good matchup luck. In one league I started out with Davante Adams, Waddle, Mattison and unsurprisingly that team finished second to last. Pretty much the only reason I didn't have zero wins was the Dallas defense and a couple weeks where my opponent randomly poo poo the bed. Waivers were the killer though. I lost out on the big pickups by a couple FAAB dollars every time. And the "hot waiver adds" I did win ended up being huge turds like DeMercado from the Cardinals when James Conner was hurt. Streaming QBs was also a disaster. Like I added Jordan Love for the week he scored 4 points vs the Raiders then dropped him again for his bye. Looking at the teams that were playing in my championships, I see a lot of Puka and Kyren and Rashee Rice and Dak. Or studs they were able to acquire by packaging waiver players who got hot and selling high. But I also see guys like Tyreek and CeeDee and AJ Brown and Amon-Ra. None of them totally screwed up the draft. I wonder if some fantasy analyst nerd has done a study on the importance of the draft vs waivers. Or maybe there's too much randomness for it to be useful.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:44 |
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I think there's likely a bit of a correlation between draft and final standing, but there's also an overwhelming amount of variance from player health, to weekly matchups, coaching decisions, and many other factors, that just make the initial draft have little importance.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:50 |
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I found a correlation - if you are a competent manager the worst Yahoo grades your draft, the better you will do. Both of my rosters were D+ ratings but I played the waiver game and finished well.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:51 |
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The league i won in and drafted JJ first overall. I was basically the Browns after Cousins got hurt. Since week 8 i've started a rotating cast of Cousins, Mayfield, Murray, Dobbs, Russell Wilson, Mullens, and lastly my lord and savior Joe Flacco I started Dobbs the week he turned the ball over 4 times lol.
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 19:53 |
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Speaking of waivers I just realized adding Juwan Johnson on Saturday night to fill in for Hunter Henry got me the win. Literally any other waiver TE and I'd have lost lol. So I guess I made one good move this year
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 20:26 |
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Thanks for all the help over the season, everyone took 7th in the yospos ten man league, made a bunch of mistakes including forgetting the draft was happening until the 5th round, and then relying on Lions DST for the first few weeks instead of streaming + not trusting Stroud/Flacco to put up better numbers than Goff after the BAL loss/bye Good learning moments all around
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# ? Jan 1, 2024 21:35 |
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Yahoo gave me a C- for this year’s draft. Finished third and got my buy in back All my starters this week were dudes I drafted except K and DEF Not sure what I learned this year. Waiting on TE and taking a top tier QB a round ahead of projections continues to work. Though I whiffed on some mid rounders. Luck with injuries and luck in general is half the battle
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 01:38 |
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That’s a nice team How was Amon-Ra sitting there in the fifth round though??? Keeper?
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 03:44 |
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Diontae over ARSB earned you that C-!
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 03:59 |
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That's a really late Amon-Ra - was it not ppr? That's a late rear end CeeDee too tbh. But still nice draft.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 04:41 |
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Docjowles posted:That’s a nice team Yes he was my keeper. Achane or LaPorta candidates for next year I guess
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 05:50 |
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Ceedee at 23 is insane
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 05:53 |
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RCarr posted:Ceedee at 23 is insane It was an in person draft at the bar and I couldn’t believe he was still available. We’re all drunks but it hadn’t gotten to drunken idiocy yet I had to ask the commissioner if it was an oversight on his part and he’d forgotten to mark him taken. If you pick a dude that’s already been drafted you have to buy a round of shots
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Cat Hassler posted:It was an in person draft at the bar and I couldn’t believe he was still available. We’re all drunks but it hadn’t gotten to drunken idiocy yet In fairness, Ceedee had been disappointing every year but this one IIRC. I know I had him last year and/or the year before, and he wasn't really that great then for fantasy.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 06:09 |
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CeeDee was a huge part of me winning the ship in a league where I started Kyler Murray most of the year. YUGE.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 06:17 |
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Pollard went three picks before I took Lamb so I dodged the disappointing Cowboy possibility
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 06:30 |
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Let's take a look back at the positional cheat sheet ESPN put out for 2023 RB drafts (PPR): yikes - CMC is the only guy in the top 5 I'd say wasn't a bust. Joe Mixon and Etienne the only other guys in the top 10 you woulda been happy with. Chubb you can't ding 'em on so I'd say 3/9. RBs really seem like a crapshoot and I think I'm gonna lean away from taking any high next year but maybe it was a 1 year anomaly - the 2022 rankings turned out a lot better. WRs: Little better. I'd call Davante, Diggs, Wilson busts. Kupp is borderline but you probably got him pretty late because he went into the season injured, and he turned out OK for his draft spot. Some guys past the top 10 were way too low (Keenan Allen, Mike Evans, DJ Moore) but those guys had some question marks going into the season. I'd actually say their rankings past 10 turned out pretty bad. The 2022 rankings were about as right in the top 10, so I think RBs were just busty this year. Funny to note, the very last player listed in WRs as #90 was a Nathaniel Dell (HOU). I think he'll be a little higher next year. QBs Decent top #10 if you don't count injuries. Mahomes sucked for the 1st overall QB picked in most drafts. I'd call Burrow and DeShaun busts even with injury mulligans, the games they played were mostly bad. Burrow probably woulda ended OK without injuries though. Dak is too low. Fields probably felt like a bust but you were happy to have him in the second half of the season if you kept him. Brock Purdy was super low, #27. He was down with like Desmond Ritter and CJ Stroud (who was a no-name at that point). I guess he was still new but I woulda put him over straight rookies on bad teams. TEs are whatever, it was Kelce in round 1 (bust), then Andrews as an early 4, Hock as an early 5. Then a bunch of real late stuff.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 07:15 |
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Based on ADP and accounting for injuries, I wonder what is the absolute best team you could have reasonably drafted this year?
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Inspector 34 posted:Based on ADP and accounting for injuries, I wonder what is the absolute best team you could have reasonably drafted this year? I assume reasonably drafted means you cannot grab Kyren Williams and Puka Nacua in the last two rounds, but without thinking too hard something reasonable could be (based on skimming one of my non-keeper drafts): CMC ARSB Josh Allen (kind of early to take a QB, but it is about where he went in some of my leagues and with our Grays Sports Almanac 1950-2000 we know that a lot of players drafted around here do not live up to their ADP) Keenan Allen James Cook Kamara Pacheco (might be cutting it close to Kamara's ADP) Mike Evans Mostert Skip all the recommended players around here and jump down to ~ 12th round picks: Nico Collins LaPorta It varies quite a bit though, in one of my leagues Mike Evans went pick 88, in another he went at 126. WR were heavily frontloaded, where the majority of the final top ~20 were drafted in the first 5 rounds, the only significant outsiders were Mike Evans, Puka Nacua who was not really drafted, and Nico Collins who was a late round flyer. Atypically, RB had a lot more midround value. Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jan 2, 2024 |
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I think LaPorta should be taken in place of whatever spot Kelce is currently in or higher. The dude balls out with like 25pt half ppr games every other game or two and outperformed post injury JJ or like jamarr chase the last few weeks
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 08:35 |
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I don’t know how long they’ve been doing this, but check your ESPN fantasy app this morning. There’s a Spotify-like yearly wrap up. I placed 1st and 17th in my two ESPN leagues so I got both sides of the spectrum there. 😄
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 12:46 |
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Very excited to watch football without fantasy now that this stupid poo poo I do every year is over. Four leagues is too many but fantasy football is a lot more fun when you realize it's a fee you pay to stay connected to certain friend groups.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 18:47 |
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Yeah I had four leagues for the second year in a row, definitely dropping back down to 3 next year. Just too much to sift through.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 18:49 |
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kiimo posted:Four leagues is too many Pffft. Amateur.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 18:49 |
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The worst part of the end of fantasy football is trying to figure out what to do at work all day
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 19:02 |
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dxt posted:The worst part of the end of fantasy football is trying to figure out what to do at work all day Youtube, I guess.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 19:04 |
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The big jump is from 0 leagues to 1. Each incremental league is an extra ~5 minutes per week unless they have crazy settings Highly recommend being in multiple leagues so you're emotionally insulated when your high draft pick busts or your waiver add doesnt pan out
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 19:11 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:The big jump is from 0 leagues to 1. Each incremental league is an extra ~5 minutes per week unless they have crazy settings And yet I target all of the same players to simply multiply my bad picks
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 19:21 |
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Yeah then I end up feeling even worse when the same hot waiver add burns me in all of my leagues instead of just 1.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 20:33 |
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Four leagues is my max, beyond that it becomes less fun to watch the games because you and your opponents have the same players. Also, is it too soon to talk about keepers? Just have until June to sit here and dwell on it.
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 21:08 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:The big jump is from 0 leagues to 1. Each incremental league is an extra ~5 minutes per week unless they have crazy settings Diversification is key in Fantasy Football
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# ? Jan 2, 2024 21:47 |
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My league does a playoff season fantasy thing Just QB, WR, TE, and kicker. If a dude scores points you get those points. If your QB throws a TD to your WR that’s 12 points. No waivers, when your guy’s team is eliminated that’s it for that roster spot Trying to figure out a draft strategy. Think a QB like Lamar first round. But you have to balance it because there are dudes who will put up points but are less likely to get to the Super Bowl Anyway simple fun fantasy-lite to wrap up the season
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# ? Jan 3, 2024 02:50 |
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I haven’t personally played them but I know there’s some playoff best ball contests along those lines. The game theory is interesting. Because you want guys who are going to be playing in the Super Bowl. But you can’t draft all 1 seeds because then you get a bunch of zeroes in the wild card round. Conversely someone like Rachaad White might help you get through the first round but then if the Bucs quickly get bounced you’ve got a dead roster spot the rest of the way. Sounds like a fun puzzle. How do you determine who wins? Is it week by week or most total points after the Super Bowl?
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# ? Jan 3, 2024 03:08 |
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Docjowles posted:I haven’t personally played them but I know there’s some playoff best ball contests along those lines. The game theory is interesting. Because you want guys who are going to be playing in the Super Bowl. But you can’t draft all 1 seeds because then you get a bunch of zeroes in the wild card round. Conversely someone like Rachaad White might help you get through the first round but then if the Bucs quickly Whoever has the most points after the Super Bowl wins it all. $20 buy in. Yeah kind of like best ball - nothing to do after the draft but be mad when you fail
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# ? Jan 3, 2024 03:47 |
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Docjowles posted:I haven’t personally played them but I know there’s some playoff best ball contests along those lines. The game theory is interesting. Because you want guys who are going to be playing in the Super Bowl. But you can’t draft all 1 seeds because then you get a bunch of zeroes in the wild card round. Conversely someone like Rachaad White might help you get through the first round but then if the Bucs quickly I have done similar contests, the easiest way to do it is by assuming a team without a bye is going to win, and roll with it. The Superbowl will be Dallas vs Miami? Sure, why not. Alternatively just get some cheap players to tide you over for the wildcard week if you really want 49ers/Ravens.
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# ? Jan 3, 2024 04:19 |
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Well thread, it's been a ride. I ultimately finished top of the consolation bowl, which isn't too shabby considering my team's record. Thanks for the advice!
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Time to think about my "Do not loving draft" list.
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