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Atlas Hugged posted:I decided to eat a brownie and watch some more DS9. This episode is called "Move Along Home". A good episode 
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Move Along Home isn't a great episode, but fan hatred for it - like fan hatred for DS9 and TNG's first seasons - is way beyond what it deserves, in my opinion (thus the "backlash against the backlash" that someone else identified). That's probably true for Voyager as well, which is mostly bland and forgettable rather than hateable.
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Jun 2, 2023 17:07
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Now season 3 of TOS, that's an example of something where the level of hatred is just about right for what it is. Most of the episodes range from half-baked to  with some hidden gems among the turds.
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Jun 2, 2023 17:24
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Does anyone remember the game Star Trek: Legacy? I got it for Christmas, installed it on my PC, and was very disappointed with it. Maybe I'd like it better now; I don't remember now why I was dissatisfied. This was 2006 or so.
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Jun 3, 2023 14:35
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MikeJF posted:Legacy was a console-first game that had a really terrible PC port in terms of both bugs and the control scheme. Barry Foster posted:It was very bare bones and boring. Bridge Commander came out around the same time/slightly earlier, I believe, and was way more fun and interesting This is jogging my memory a bit. I remember it being buggy and the controls being weird. I think it advertised that you could fly a number of historical starships (the Constitution, the movie refit, the D, maybe even the Defiant) but that all had to be unlocked. I've never played many of the Star Trek video games aside from a bit of Legacy and that NES 25th anniversary game (which I sucked at).
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Jun 3, 2023 18:14
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Atlas Hugged posted:Further proving that B5 took the smarter approach by writing the whole plan out from the beginning.  I'd go so far as to say that B5 is the superior show to DS9, though they're both excellent. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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Jun 12, 2023 02:56
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Atlas Hugged posted:I heard it described to me by a friend when I first commented on how good the dynamic between Quark and Odo was that this basically encapsulates the major different between B5 and DS9. DS9 benefited from being made after TNG and so they did manage to avoid a lot of the blunders that early TNG made (with a few exceptions) and started strong with the character interactions and relationships, but they unfortunately don't develop too much over the show. It's funny you bring that up because there are some aspects of Londo and G'kar's interesting relationship that mirrors Odo and Quark (though Londo and G'kar's relationship is obviously much more fraught given what happens over the course of the series).
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Jun 12, 2023 17:26
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I'm quickly turning into 'the B5 guy', but: one of the things that makes Babylon 5 work so well is that it's not tethered to canon. JMS could invent the universe with each episode because B5 was a standalone series. I personally really like TOS but if it's holding SNW back, then by all means, do something different! Spock is not a part of Biblical canon; he's a character someone made up almost 60 years ago. There are certain characteristics of his behavior you can expect, but you can do whatever you want with him; or Pike! Or Uhura! Go wild! By contrast, Picard (which I have not watched) seems so interested in fan service that they seem to scared to actually do many new and interesting things with the TNG characters. The scene of the original crew starting up the Enterprise-D was nice and well done, but it felt empty because it was so service-y (to me). F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jun 13, 2023 |
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Jun 13, 2023 17:18
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Tunicate posted:As long as it was consistent with what had been portrayed about the characters and world in previous episodes of B5, which allowed him to build on previously told stories Z'Ha'Dum.
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Jun 13, 2023 18:48
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T.C. posted:Chekhov with the ice burn here Bester's still got it.
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Jun 15, 2023 02:54
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CPColin posted:It's the blue spoons Honestly sounds like a Cardassian porn website: bluespoons.con
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Jun 21, 2023 00:49
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Now we know why Kirk sent Bailey along with Balok: he was a corporate spy discovering trade secrets from the First Federation that could be stolen.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:39
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In a similar way to how Jedi Masters should have batting averages based on how many of their pupils end up falling to the Dark Side. I'm not sure either Yoda or Obi Wan would have great WARs.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:47
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FISHMANPET posted:Really makes O'Brien's lines in Bar Association even better somehow, knowing they line up with Colm's actual views. I was thinking that as well. It's really cool that he wasn't acting there.
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Jul 8, 2023 17:48
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MrMojok posted:i dearly love TOS and while a lot of it is terribly dated today, and I'm not talking about the effects shots now, it will always hold a special place in my heart. And this episode definitely places in my top ten of TOS. 100% same.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:06
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Yes it does! I've always thought that TOS' first season is exceptionally strong, even with turds like Mudd's Women and Alternative Factor. I do wish the season had ended with City on the Edge of Forever, though. Operation: Annihilate! is not as good.
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Jul 16, 2023 01:02
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I have always liked the 'overloading phaser inside the red alert light' scene from Conscience of the King. Fun fact: that's the only time in any series (that I know of) where a "double red alert" is called.
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Jul 16, 2023 01:59
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How could you pass up such nuanced scenes as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qT1efW8BT4
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Jul 16, 2023 02:07
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I don't know if it's intentional or not, but The Loss also kinda proves the point of fans who say that Troi wasn't that great of a counselor outside of using her empathic abilities.
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Jul 19, 2023 16:31
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TOS: filthy commod(or)es.
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Jul 20, 2023 00:37
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I would say that Naked Time is far more successful for a number of reasons: the concept is fresher and the writing is significantly better. Naked Now is derivative and doesn't really tell us anything especially insightful about the crew. Geordi is resentful about being blind. Tasha and Troi are horny. Picard is.....? Wesley is an annoying teenager, etc. That Picard laugh is among the most bizarre moments in all of TNG's run.
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Jul 20, 2023 15:00
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Tighclops posted:I actually really like Where Silence Has Lease, just for its vibes. The whole bit where they are on the fake Yamato and it's just hosed up and super creepy in a way TNG usually wasn't, plus I love Worf losing his poo poo at it and trying to fight with the doors Me too. I also like the (spoiler for people watching for the first time) self destruct scene and Picard just chilling out in his quarters, listening to [Erik] Satie.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:40
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worf.exe has stopped working and must shut down
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Jul 21, 2023 01:41
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I've got to go with the classic: TOS theme is the best.
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Jul 24, 2023 13:19
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I don't have much of an opinion on Faith of the Heart because I don't think I've ever actually heard it. The Mirror Universe opening for Enterprise was pretty badass, though.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:44
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Would Khan fall under the 'hostile galactic power' or 'space God' category?
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Jul 31, 2023 02:43
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Starfleet Insurance probably has an entire division dedicated entirely to Kirk. The 'Ripped Shirt' desk alone had steady work for years.
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Jul 31, 2023 02:53
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Fornax Disaster posted:So let me get this straight, you are claiming your 190,000 metric tonne starship was stolen and destroyed by joyriders? And it was taken from inside your own spacedock? Even better: "OK, Mr. Kirk, let's review your claim - 'Enterprise-A captured by 23rd century Taliban and piloted through the Galactic Barrier. Met God, got zapped, and talked my way out of a standoff with a Klingon."
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Jul 31, 2023 14:44
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So odd to see Shives without his trademark cap.
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It's really too bad we didn't get Avery Brooks and Bruce Boxleitner together to yell at each other. I don't think Sheridan can top "EVIDENCE!" but he can hold his own in the indignant speech department (I don't think there are any spoilers here, but beware): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-sBB9CPKo&t=33s Babylon 5 is the superior series.
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None of the TNG movies reached the highs of the best TOS movies, but yes, First Contact is the best of the lot.
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zoux posted:Bad, but not "I've been on the show for six seasons and can we make some accomodations for me in the final season as you have done before for other actors? No? Because of spite?" bad. I dunno about that; wasn't she raped (or at least assaulted) by someone behind the scenes? Not that Farrell wasn't treated like poo poo but Grace Lee Whitney's is a pretty sad story.
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Aug 9, 2023 16:54
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I'm partial to: "That'll be the day" and the hop over the tactical console. Picard had some pretty badass moments.
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ashpanash posted:That's who Patrick Stewart always wanted to play, and it felt like the movies and beyond were him just transitioning to that character. In small doses, I don't mind badass Picard. But you're right that he kicks the most rear end when he's in a courtroom (or his Ready Room) ripping someone a new hole.
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Aug 11, 2023 01:58
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You might be able to make the case that Kirk is something of an O'Brien. In TOS alone he loses his brother, two loves of his life (Edith and Miramanee; I don't count Rayna), gets court martialed, has to murder his good friend who has become a demigod, meets his Shadow self face to face.... That's not even counting the movies. Still not probably as bad as Miles' travails, though. e: Oh yeah....forgot about Kirk's experience with Kodos the Executioner. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Wait people don’t like Course: Oblivion? It’s one of the few Voyagers I genuinely love because it’s so bleak. Same here. I usually don't like "The end; no moral" kind of stories, but it really works with Voyager for some reason.
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...! posted:Goddamn, Geordi is creepy as gently caress with women sometimes. Jesus Christ, dude! It sucks because LeVar Burton is such a great guy, but Geordi had some creepy incel moments over the course of the series.
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CPColin posted:I love that when the Greatest Gen guys asked him about this, he said "BULLSHIT" loudly enough to clip his mic LeVar's a cool dude (not being sarcastic).
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Aug 13, 2023 19:53
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^ That's probably how I'd react if LeVar Burton sat down next to me (maybe not the 'running away screaming' part).
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SlothfulCobra posted:[*]Garak's exile is over because everyone who exiled him is dead and now he has to help rebuild the ruins of Cardassia into a society that he doesn't really respect I don't know about that. Since he was part of Damar's revolutionary forces, I thought the idea was that Cardassia Prime could be remade/reshaped into a better, less fascist society. Or maybe, even after the last six or seven years, I'm still not cynical enough....
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