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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal




Charles got coronated, protestors got arrested, personal alarms got confiscated, Sinn Fιin got elected, UKIP got rejected.



Also the NHS COVID-19 contact tracing app closes after all diseases are cured
https://twitter.com/InternetH0F/status/1663714654974033921

:sun: In Other News
• The Home Office floats the idea of prison hulks for refugees
• Andrew Bridgen is expelled from the Conservative Party
• Scotland will mount a legal challenge against the decision to block Gender Recognition Reform
• Virgin Orbit closes, spelling trouble for Boris Johnson's Spaceport Cornwall
• This further limits Boris Johnson's ability to avoid a second round of police interviews
• Wind is confirmed as the main source of electricity generation in the UK for the first three months of the year, overtaking gas
• Ford receives government approval for its BlueCruise Level 2 autonomous driving technology
• All new smart motorways cancelled over cost and safety concerns
• Aldi, Lidl, Asda, Sainsbury's, and Tesco reduces the price of a four pint bottle of milk by 10p following a drop in wholesale prices


:sun: Cruel Summer
UKMT Spring 2023 - Springtime for NatCs
UKMT Winterval 2023 - Fisking the Trussay
UKMT Autumn 2022 - Get thee behind me, seitan.
UKMT Summer 2022 - The Pipes, The Pipes Are Empty
UKMT Spring 2022 - Beer for Keir, Beef for Keith
All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

:sun: Under the Boardwalk
Europol Thread
Irish Politics: come out you leo stans & fight me like a man
Trainchat Thread (Archive)
Political Cartoons Thread
C-SPAM: UK
GBS: UKMT

:sun: Sunny Afternoon
Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things.
Mandatory Redistribution Party - Two northern comedians try to be educational about various socialist topics.
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The second-most UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.
General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go.
Alpha 2 Omega - Tom O'Brien talks political strategy.
Requires Improvement - Podcast of lefty teachers exploring all things education, from a socialist perspective.
Swampside Chats - "The highest communist podcast"

:sun: Constructive Summer
Where Are the Elephants? - Leon Rosselson
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Demanding The Impossible - David Morland
Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall
Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter
The Disappearance of Rituals: A Topology of the Present - Byung-Chul Han
No Shortcuts: Organizing for Power in the New Gilded Age - Jane McAlevey
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Cafι – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
A Brief History of Neoliberalism – David Harvey
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

:sun: On The Beach
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learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 1, 2023

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Continuing from Spring Thread:

Fatty posted:

Titanium frames are supposed to be hypoallergenic but I'm not sure how that works when the main things making contact are the plastic pads.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jedit posted:

Might want to remove the link to Scotpol in the OP, considering the thread hasn't seen a post in three years.
It's now the Irish politics thread, that's getting the posts, no joke Jack.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

DesperateDan posted:

nearly a whole month early this time

dire consequences if you don't honour and obey the solstice imo
Shredded 80s fantasy art men break into your house and shout at your glassware?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
tee hee, wouldn't it be funny if i just casually dropped hints I'm going down the Bill Cooper radicalization pipeline, might encourage some stochastic terror later tee hee

https://twitter.com/ValeryNorth/status/1663987036263522308

When David Icke appointed himself king of the 5G scalar transphobes, it was bound to start flowing back the other way too.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You can get second hand BT Mini Hubs for cheap. Phone without all the phone stuff, just put a SIM and battery in.

If you have 4G you should be able to do same with a phone's hotspot function, but if that won't do those might.

If it's a low signal problem then Netgear do a similar but more expensive thing with an antenna jack that you could connect a high gain directional LTE antenna to.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Do they have special hentai judges to tell the difference between something like Correggio's Leda and the Swan and 'prohibited images' or are all the judges experts at that in their spare time anyway?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Does Shrek cock fall under prohibited images?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Absolute nonce logic, because it doesn't even bother asking questions like "and what would society look like if you didn't?" or even "and what is the economic multiplier of this?" or even even "and what if it happened to you?"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Ms Adequate posted:

lmao guess they've stopped bothering with pretending they're only upset about ~chancers~ and are coming for us all now.

Cool.
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr921.pdf

quote:

This paper documents several interesting and novel findings. First, areas which experienced a greater relative population decline due to the spread of influenza spend less, per-capita, on their inhabitants in the following decade. This holds especially for spending on amenities more likely to be consumed by the young, for example school funding.

Second, influenza deaths of 1918 are correlated with an increase in the share of votes won by right-wing extremists, such as the National Socialist Workers Party (the Nazi Party), in the crucial elections of 1932 and 1933. This correlation holds even when controlling for a city’s religious makeup, city wages, regional unemployment, city-level exposure to the "hyperinflation" of 1923, the share of right-wing votes before the first world war, and other local characteristics associated with extremist vote share. A one std. deviation increase in the proportion of the population killed by influenza was associated with an around 0.8%-pt higher share of votes won by the national socialist party.

The correlation between influenza mortality and vote share was negative for left-leaning parties also considered "extremist", such as the communists.

love too live in the twenties

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Hope that *checks notes* Andrew Neil is right that they'll bring in proportional representation and votes for cats and then gently caress off

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

How the gently caress do they have gig economy track workers? Surely you need actual loving training to work on a rail line?
The Drake meme but with 'navvies' and 'gig economy track workers' and it's some Victorian sexwrong instead of the Canadian sexwrong.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/paceyhitman/status/1664523238246948864

Angepain posted:

whenever i see Amol Rajan i just think about how he made up an award for essays, named it after Bertrand Russell, and then gave it to JK Rowling for her brave and insightful blogpost about being a terf
The Timothy Farron Award For Posting Gay Frog Bullshit On The Internet

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I wonder how much of this is his nonce brother trying to drag everyone else down with him.

It's not unknown for child abusers to try poo poo like that, either because they are deliberately manipulative or because they genuinely believe that everyone does it and they were just unfairly singled out.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

:pray:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Things that are now antisemitic according to Guardian wetwipes: football chants, the Irish, Scotland in general and Celtic in specific.
https://twitter.com/mypalfootfoot7/status/1664570817466826754

OwlFancier posted:

It unfortunately would not, but I agree that it should.
Certainly not from the people going hardest about this at the Daily Mail and GB News, in between discussing schoolgirl skirts and using the atomic clock at CERN to calculate how many femtoseconds until some tween star is 'legal'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Tesseraction posted:

If Schofield's gonna get fuckbarreled for it surely Gove should be as well?
And Johnson, who cheated on his wife with someone 23 years younger while she was dying of cancer that was probably caused by his diseased cock.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Jippa posted:

When football fans are anti semitic it's not that subtle. Like hissing and singing "spurs are on their way to auschwitz" etc.
Yes, if I were a London journalist and writing an article on AS in football, I would probably focus more on the holocaust chants and the firms using SS insignia before making wild claims about Irish Celtic fans waving Palestine flags because they hate Jews.

OwlFancier posted:

I believe in the UK if the characters are underage it is still illegal, and it's been that way for quite a while.
It was one of those laws rushed through in the last year of Gordon Brown's cabinet, and originally poorly worded enough that it would have banned a lot of Renaissance art (not to mention the Greek pederasty bowls).

Nearly everyone convicted of it has also had actual CAI though, as it's pretty low priority otherwise. I have no idea what this guy was doing to get caught.

e: The Saffir-Simpson scale measures hurricanes from 1 to 5 and is nothing to do with Bart's dong.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The bootlegging, racketeering, intimidation, murder for hire, and trafficking won't stand up in court, go after his hentai!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Pseudophotographs have been illegal much longer than cartoons (Major era), because Photoshop etc. came out in the 90s and a broad standard was adopted of "if we can't tell if that's a real photo of a child or not, the person with it is probably some kind of nonce, so let's not get too caught up in whether it's actually real or not."

Anything that could be defended as artistic was held to be outside of that until Brown. (Or more specifically Alan Johnson, who was a fan of writing legislation about fields that he knew gently caress all about.)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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The guy who founded the KKK was named after one of the parks there.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
A good preview of the kind of open society we can expect if keith is allowed near the reins of power.

Asbos for watching films by the forbidden list of directors.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Or the Toby Youngs, Rod Liddles, Taki Theodoracopuloi, and Paul Dacres of the would would all come out to say how it's normal actually and the real threat is gender in schools and Asian dog groomers and then the whole thing would disappear until a few months after he was dead.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
So if it's of a character who's canonically 17 for the first few seasons then 18 for the rest do they bring in cartoon trivia dorks as special witnesses, or is that against the human rights of anyone who'd have to listen to that debate?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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"So as you can see by the tattoo above Quagmire's penis, this clearly takes place after the events alluded to in season..."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I'm fully aware of what the real reason is, but the Ken Loach thing will be the excuse.
I've changed my mind now, Labour should definitely expel all members who have ever shared a platform with Ken Loach. No excuses.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I wonder if Bridgen would have been suspended from the Tories if he'd compared the vaccine to any other historical event. Like he could have gone for Unit 731 or the Tuskegee syphilis experiment or Thatcher bankrolling Pol Pot or the British use of typhus as a weapon of war in Africa and those would all have been equally appalling bullshit comparisons, but he went straight for the Holocaust.

I also wonder if he ever compared his failure to potato to the Famine.

Blitz good because our enemy was a foreigner, Lockdown bad because our enemy was our own self importance.

e: Seven segment displays have 7 segments but they only use 3 or 4 to display the number 7. When all 7 segments are illuminated, it displays the number 8.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Bring back nixie tubes. One wire = one number, bish bosh.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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More diverse migration, more trade union power, racism and anti-immigrant sentiment at lowest levels since records began.

Nigel Farage and Laurence Fox's Brexit has failed. Mick Lynch and Dennis Skinner's hasn't yet.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

It's weird isn't it. With all these folk (the twitterati, hexpress, heil) pushing anti-immigrant stuff, one might think it had increased but it hasn't. Kind of shows up twitter for being a rightwing echo chamber (I certainly get pushed loads of tweets from right farts. I've muted or blocked most but some I can't help myself from commenting. It's my entertainment on a long evening!)
It's amazing how little they've got considering all the platforms they've been gifted by billionaires.

Britain First getting mad at an obviously rendered rainbow on the Arc de Triomphe (but I thought LGBT rights were a sign that we were better than the Muslim world? I can't keep up.) The Telegraph mad about lockdowns that were over years ago. Bourgeois reactionaries whining that Brexit is a difficult and ongoing process that didn't instantly poo poo gold bullion into their hands like everything else in their privileged lives has.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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There was some kind of internal spat at the Telegraph a couple of years back, between "genius inventor Boris Johnson is going to save us thousands on our bills with this" and "eco nutters are coming for your traditional wood burner", I guess representing the industrialist and pastoralist factions of Telegraph Tories.

Nobody won, but heat pumps lost.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I think the underlying element, other than "it's new and different" of all reaction (and they're not really) is that they look American.

Which then makes it a debate between thatcherite Atlanticists who view Central Air as aspirational and one nation traditionalists who are still suspicious of natural gas, let alone big boxes on the outside of your house that make you look like a Yank or a corner shop.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Nigel Farage football stickers. Featuring Nigel Farage dressed as all your favourite footballers. The Bukayo Saka and Raheem Sterling ones have been specifically condemned by the SPLC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwSO0IGyX8

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I think one positive thing is that the longer this goes on, the more likely we get Mick Lynch's Brexit over Boris Johnson's, because Brexit was sold as oven ready and easy when it's actually going to be hard work.

And if there's one thing that Mick can do a day of which terrifies Boris, it's that.

Tesseraction posted:

Easy to assume the billionaires don't care about saving money on energy bills.
Those articles about genius inventor Boris Johnson vs. the woke war on wood aren't for the billionaires, they're for the middle class homeowners.

I went for a nice walk around Abbey Park in Leicester, via Beaumont Leys (50s council estate area). One thing that always strikes me is the number of solar panels on the roofs around there, and there were a few split system heat pumps as well as of recently (since Rishi made them VAT free).

In the suburbs there's maybe two houses with solar and one with visible HVAC. In the villages there's none.

That reminded me of that Nation of Shopkeepers book, which argues that Marx's petty bourgeoisie of artisans, shopkeepers, and clerks, rather than being crushed by industry and proletarianized as he predicted, ballooned to the largest class under the welfare state and later neoliberalism, with three distinct subclasses, the artisans became self-employed tradesmen who bought their old council houses, the shopkeepers became small business tyrants and the backbone of brexitrump and anti-lockdown, and the clerks became the professional-managerial class and a whole lot of what David Graeber termed bullshit jobs.

Trades tend to be early adopters, they're the people who Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Makita compete for with the latest battery systems, and the first lot to install UPVC on their right to buys, while the Telegraph at the time was whining that it fell to bits in 10 minutes and would take £7,000 pounds off of the value of your house! So it makes absolute sense that this group would go in hard for solar, because similarly they can do the maths and it just makes sense to have it in the long run.

It also makes absolute sense for the Telegraph to piss and moan about it, because they're angling at the other two groups, who are against heat pumps and solar because either "it's new and we never needed it before George Saurus invented climate change" or "but what if it devalues my house and it breaks and my neighbours don't talk to me because I got the wrong brand and they think I'm a pleb for having a Fujitsu?"

That's the worried middle who will click on all the heat pump and solar clickbait that the Telegraph can poo poo out.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Guavanaut posted:

Nigel Farage football stickers. Featuring Nigel Farage dressed as all your favourite footballers. The Bukayo Saka and Raheem Sterling ones have been specifically condemned by the SPLC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwSO0IGyX8
lmao called it, discount Trump scam

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

Perhaps people who have money are also bad at thinking about saving it. My parents constantly whine about how expensive things are but they also spend stupid amounts of money renovating things in the house that don't need renovating but have at no point considered improving the windows, puting solar panels on, new boiler etc. They could afford it easily but apparently just don't think about it. Just mindless consumption of stupid poo poo and watching house flipping programs that give them more stupid loving ideas.
There's a definite element of class snobbery too, if not from the homeowners then definitely from the people directing and bankrolling those renovation shows.

Coming from the my dad said so college of social research, but a lot of those solar installations in BL were apparently organically spread neighbour to neighbour, some being trades certified to fit their own, others just talking about "so are those panels any good?" "yeah they cut my bills in half, I can help you wire them up if you want" until there's streets where there's more with than not.



Personally I think it's both cool and a bit hilarious that the area that was a byword for 'chavvy and criminal' when I grew up there is now a high tech green energy exporter on a nice day like today, but as that book said there's sections of society that define their habitus mostly by blind reaction to others, so I'd bet there's parts of the suburbs that reject solar precisely because 'those people' embraced it. They wouldn't say it like that, but "oh doesn't it make the roof look tacky" and so on. That then tends to bleed into what the people producing aspirational renovation shows will even consider, as with UPVC doors and windows 20 years back.

happyhippy posted:

Labour have a history of meeting terrorists.



loving disgrace
That's the ANC meeting terrorists though :confused:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Call the transport police.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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otoh the EU is a white supremacist group and still tolerates Viktor Orbαn's stupid poo poo

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I kinda want to be but then they keep providing a platform for this poo poo so lol

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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International humanitarian law prohibits collective punishment of prisoners of war or other protected persons for acts committed by individuals during an armed conflict. The imposition of collective punishment is a war crime.

Par for the course for Labour 'rising stars'


Private Speech posted:

I mean the other countries that are claimed as parts of Greater Hungary are also in the EU and I don't think Hungarian revanchism is particularly popular anywhere outside of Hungary (and maybe some parts of Austria).
That's not great for internal unity though. "We need to listen to all voices, so here's fashy Vic who thinks it's a grave injustice that your country exists."

It's more than just a bit unpopular with e.g. Romanians who joined the EU in the spirit and expectation of no longer having to tolerate that kind of poo poo.

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