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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Grey Hunter posted:

less charisma than Keir!

Woh Woh Woh. I know he's a Tory. But cmon, that's uncalled for.

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Skull Servant posted:

I don't think this is a correct read of the situation at all. His brother was convicted of sexual abuse of someone underage. If the timeline constructed by others is correct, the guy Schofield was having the affair with was between 19-20. Certainly questionable and immoral (both the age difference and the power balance are issues warranting attention), but certainly not pedophilic in nature.

I'm personally more sympathetic to him on principle because I've seen this happen countless times with older closeted gays and lesbians. I can probably count on one hand those who came out at 40+ and don't end up having some form of relationship with a twenty-something year old. They're always embarrassed a year after and settle with someone their own age. They seem to want to pretend that they are that age and reclaim time they spent in the closet. Overall, it is a bit odd, but there is nothing inherently evil about it.

I'm especially concerned with the language and debate surrounding him, as a member of the LGBT community. The right has ramped up their attacks within the last year or so. Currently, trans people are having their identities erased under the argument that their mere existence around children is a threat to the child. While this isn't new, they have become emboldened by their successes across multiple nations and are now setting their sights on the wider community.

This issue, unfortunately, is wider than Schofield and there are legitimate reasons to defend him (to a certain degree), at the moment.


Agreed. You can think it's immoral and an abuse of power. But it's not in the same league as what his brother did.
I honestly don't think this would even be in the news if the intern was a women. Well that's not totally true, compulsory shots of "Scofield's new fling" at the beach in a bikini, but that's a separate issue with the media.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jun 2, 2023

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

That's textbook grooming though. Like if he'd befriended the kid at 10 and then gone on to not have a relationship, then fine - odd, but fine. But having a relationship with someone he started to know as a child, spend a lot of time with them, and then loving them the second they hit legal age is the literal definition of grooming.

This isn't an LGBTQ issue and it's kind of gross of Schofield to use that as a shield, given the historical conflation between gay men and pedophiles.

Dunno where you got 10 from. And not sure how 19/20 is "second they hit legal age"

In my mind the specific attention the media are giving this is an LGBT issue.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jun 2, 2023

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Nothingtoseehere posted:

It's a magistrates court, so even odds the panel was three retired boomers disgusted with the idea of cartoon porn in general and assumed it must be criminal.

It is illegal. It also comes under the definition of child porn from the UN and is recommended to it's members. Its technically on the books of many countries, just no one enforces it normally.

My guess is the bart Simpson was just the one people would recognise, the rest is probably hentai.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Z the IVth posted:

Curious how the oft quoted "she's actually a 10,000 year old demon" excuse would fly in front of a judge.

Also how does AI porn figure, because it must surely exist at this point. Do they go back and look at the prompt?

I believe it's if they appear under 18 then it falls foul.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Guavanaut posted:

So if it's of a character who's canonically 17 for the first few seasons then 18 for the rest do they bring in cartoon trivia dorks as special witnesses, or is that against the human rights of anyone who'd have to listen to that debate?



I think something as ambiguous as that would just never reach a trial.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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To be honest that's much more interesting than another remainer vs leaver debate.

Leavers fascinate me and actually makes me intrigued to watch this. It's like a very pink nature program

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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jaete posted:

What infrastructure? :confused:

I mean sure there's like, roads, and the tube is pretty nice, and there's like... electricity and heating and internet? But how do those help against heat

London has some of the best ambulance response times in the country. You are far more in danger collapsing of heat exhaustion in the middle of the countryside than you are in London.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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WhatEvil posted:

I can't feel much joy about Dorries and Boris.

Well, a little about Dorries and Boris' dad not getting a lordship.

But they're clearly just going to both go onto very lucrative grifts and live long and happy lives like all these cunts do.

That was always going to be true of Boris, but atleast to him this is an embarrassing failure and he's got sure absolutely fuming about it .

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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That loving Sned posted:

Those broken people will never be truly happy. Even when they could just retire to a tropical island they’re still continuing the grift and craving praise from the tabloids

It's kinda like the ending of Succession

They all end it far richer than they start but they are all miserable and have failed at what they set out to do

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Red Oktober posted:

It’s scummy sellers rather than solicitors - the solicitors won’t have anything to do with it that I can think of.

That said; you can’t ever really stop it, but when she makes an offer next she can make it on the condition of them stopping all viewings, taking the listings down etc.

Yep that's all you can do.

Also don't drag your feet. If you agree to buy a house you should move as quickly as possible. My sister in law dealt with a guy who after two months hadn't even arranged a survey. So she decided to reach out a ever so slightly smaller offer and give it to them. The guy was livid but he was taking the piss.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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The Star of David on a pig is a little :chloe:

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Private Speech posted:

I find it pretty funny how people on mortgages in the news are moaning about the rates going up when they were historically low for years.

Paying 900PCM on a 3 bed house sure sounds terrible, compare that to the rent of 1600PCM and not getting a house in the end, uhh, wait.

They were historically low, but so was wage growth.

People bring up 14% of the 80s and 90s but ignore wage growth was far greater then.
In real terms this is the largest mortgage hike in a generation.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Kin posted:

I'm starting to get my finances in order with my second kid due in a month and just opened up a savings account with a 3.91% interest rate (Shawbrook if anyone's interested).

I'm just doing the long-term sums and wondering if I have them right.

Basically, we've put £10k in there, to begin with, and plan on topping it up with £12k a year every year until we retire (we're 40 now)

I know interest rates will rise and fall, but if they stay flat at 3.91% for the next 35 years and we keep putting £12k in each year, my excel sums say that when I'm 75, the account will be making ~£37k a year in interest. Does that sound about right?

I dragged that pattern out for another 25 years till I'm 100 and the annual interest jumps up to £116k per year.

If my kids take it on and continue to contribute to it in the same way, then pass it on to my potential grandkids, by the time they hit about 70 the interest will be over half a million per year.

Surely there's a cap to this, or is this basically how the rich stay rich by passing on generational wealth using compound interests (and possibly some sort of inheritance tax avoidance to speed it up).

I mean it's a silly long time to consider, but by the time the account is 115 years old (if my sums are right) it'll be making £1M a year in interest and be long past the point of it actually needing additional money put into it.


If that account isn't an ISA you are gonna pay tax on it.
Also if you want long term savings like this you are usually better off putting it in investment account as most savings accounts are below the current level of interest, so in real terms they don't make anything, they actually lose, just not as much as sitting in your current account.

I recommend you ask the UK finance thread.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3887120

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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domhal posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/13/ai-could-be-most-substantial-policy-challenge-ever-say-blair-and-hague

Apparently its going to revolutionize everything and is very dangerous. The solution of the brain trust at the Tony Blair institute? Just put labels on it! Just delete things from the internet!

Then comes Starmer with his little speech. No leadership as usual. This thing is happening; it could go one way or another for the working class like that thing that just happened in the 70s and 80s for some reason.

Does any normal person care about AI?

Yes lots of normal people do. But they care more about it contributing and continuing the bad trends of current tech, not terminator style Armageddon.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Got to admit, I'm enjoying this new era of Tory in fighting.
They always had an annoying habit of putting their differences aside.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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While newspaper readership is falling. The type of pepper who still buy them are not only the type to vote, but also share their opinion and sway other voters.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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smellmycheese posted:

I had a friend at University from Reading who told me it’s demographic is deemed a perfect microcosm of England by marketers and thus new shops / restaurants etc are always trialled there

Yeah in terms of fast food chains, Reading often gets them first.
Wendies, tacobell, chick fa la. Think German doner was there very early.
They are recently got Popeye's too.

Truly the town of culture.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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DiscoWitch posted:

I mean if you throw out as many episodes as friends did I guess having a few funny episodes in there will happen due to the sheer numbers :v:

It is poo poo for its bigoted episodes and I find it bland, but then again I did sit through all of HIMYM and it was very funny at the time, now though looking back it is full of yikes itself. Same for scrubs really

Scrubs is a funny one because it has episodes which seem ahead of the curve even now and other ones that make you go :eyepop:

Jaeluni Asjil posted:


Things that I don't find funny:

most episodes of Black Mirror that I have seen (from S1)

Who told you this was a comedy?

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jun 14, 2023

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Your response to black mirror should be a mix of
:hmmyes: and :stonk:

Succession though I do think is a black comedy. I've peed a little laughing atleast twice watching the show.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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I remember black books being really good. But I'm afraid to watch it again cos... Well you know.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Dead Goon posted:

Linehan is only involved in the first series, iirc.

Don't say his name out loud. Or he may appear.


I'm actually a little surprised he's never tried to make an account here. when he got banned from twitter he started popping up everywhere desperate for people to pay attention to him.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Lol pissflaps was just a massive centrist and fence sitter.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Guavanaut posted:

Got banned from twitter for being gross about trans people's genitals though, so a centrist in the same family as the glincels.



Lol did he? Was he "just asking questions"

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Only skit I remember from jam is Killroy - Silk running around naked in a shopping centre.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Gonzo McFee posted:

That's right, he spent all of the Corbyn years going to every corner of the country to find a new racist to say Corbyn wasn't racist enough.

Is it his fault that Britain is full of racists?

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Yes that's it Starmer. Put down your flag on issues that are about completely made up stories.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Alas if you are trying to get the opinion of every day voters in the UK, avoiding racist opinions is impossible.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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"Conservatives believe in small government and councils being autonomous... except when they do anything we don't like"

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Tesseraction posted:

£21mn pissed away on AI tech most of which won't work and the parts that do were done by academics not whichever techbro dipshit they're giving the money to.

But we can't afford to pay nurses a fair wage.

AI is really really good at certain types of medical diagnosis. It's a game changer for stuff like cancer screening. But you're completely right. Instead of going with high quality academics we will just have an open bidding system allowing the worst grifters access to private records and a bunch of funding.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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History Comes Inside! posted:

Wasn’t there some miracle diagnostic AI that turned out to just be looking for rulers, because all the medical file photos it was trained on had rulers in them

Yeah. It's the pitfalls of machine learning. You can't tell it "look for this" you have to feed in data and have it find the similarities itself. In the example you are talking about they forgot to crop out rulers on the positive data and the nagative data they put in didn't contain rulers. So the AI just learnt to correlate ruler = positive.

You have to be really really careful to feed in good data.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Aphex- posted:

Ok so apologies for the dumb question but this is really the first time I've tried to understand why interest rates are rising. From what I gather it's to make people spend less because they should have less disposable money (if they're a homeowner because their mortgage is more expensive). Which to me just seems like a punishment for anyone who isn't rich? Also, if people are spending less, wouldn't that mean businesses having to raise their prices anyway because they need to offset the lower volumes of sales? Am I being dumb or is this kind of it?

You are mostly correct.
As painful as it is what the bank of England are doing does work, we have a century of evidence to prove this. But what people often don't talk about is it isn't the only way to do it.

Under Nixon in America they brought in a freeze on salaries and prices. Literally for a 6 month period it was illegal to raise your price on anything and illegal to raise someone's salary. And it worked

Another solution is forced savings, you apply a special tax on everyone, taking away their money then slowly give it back to them through a repayment system. It causes the same effect as interest rates but the money doesn't vanish, everyone eventually gets it back.

But for whatever reason countries just prefer the interest rate approach, I guess cos it's more proven to be reliable even though it's by far the most painful for the lower and middle classes.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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The Question IRL posted:

Isn't the whole "children are identifying as cats!" thing an import from the American Right Wing media?

Like I remember it being because photos were circulating of classrooms with "litter trays" and the ghouls of Fox News/OANN were saying it was because teachers were indulging in kids fantasies of being cats and thus having to use litter trays instead of toilets as they were cats.

When the reality for why classrooms had litter trays in them were an emergency measure for if there was an active shooter situation in a school, then the terrified children had a place inside the classroom where they could whaz*. So this was a Right Wing deflection to an issue they wanted to deal with (children's identity) from a problem they didn't want to deal with (gun control).



Yes. It's literally just a slightly different twist on a viral story from last year.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/teacher-fired-meow-student-cat/

A story that is only not 'proven false' because the person who made it up won't admit they made it up but refuses to say what school it happened at.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Diet Crack posted:

it's a mechanism for the rich to make the poor poorer, default on their mortgages and just free up some more for the nefarious bulk buy to let landlord cunts (who will scream that the rates are loving them and jump the rents when they absolutely have already covered 100 years worth of rate rises already in their costings - rents were already extortionate.) The whole nuking of the pound and whatnot was deliberate. Other countries are starting to see inflation go down, but no.. not here. This hellhole is a special kind of hosed up, imbibed with literal loving morons and shitheads who should've been lined up many moons ago.

If by intentional you mean due to shooting ourselves in the foot with Brexit then yes.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I was interested to read that the hull would have developed micro fractures with each dive so these would have accumulated with each dive until they were sufficient to cause the hull to fracture completely next time it was under high pressure.

According to some Trump fans it wasn't reported for several days to take the heat off Hunter Biden for some reason I couldn't be bothered to find out.

Ive seen so many people claiming some conspiracy or another about the volume of its coverage. These people seemingly have never paid any attention to news for the last 50 years. These sorts of stories are catnip to the media.
If we had known for sure about the implosion to begin with it would have gotten barely any coverage, its the not knowing and the ability to following a developing story that makes this one work so well for our dumb brains.
One channel in the USA even had an oxygen count down graphic in the corner of the screen the entire time.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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If only we where in some kind of trading block or union that could stand up to larger countries pushing their weight around.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Pistol_Pete posted:

Looks like Thames Water might be going bust. 15 million customers! I used to work for them and it doesn't surprise me in the slightest: they'd built up this network of shell companies to shuffle money around (hq'd in a convenient tax haven) and loaded the company up with billions in expensive debt while spraying dividends at the shareholders and running down the infrastructure.

Well perfect time to nationalise it while it's on discount then.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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smellmycheese posted:

Being so turbo late stage capitalist with your debt loading and asset plundering that you manage to go bust when you own a monopoly utility for every single person in the whole of London and beyond is actually quite impressive work

Yeah I'm kinda baffled how they managed it. They have one of the most reliable sources of income possible but they still managed to gently caress up basic budgeting.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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smellmycheese posted:

Meanwhile - here’s the husband of one of Keith’s top lieutenants just launching a cosy podcast with his pal the Austerity Chancellor



Politicians spend the evening getting pissed together on subsidized alcohol. Any pretence that each side of the bench hate each other is theatre.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Jun 29, 2023

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

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Even the ones who don't give a poo poo about migrants can see it's ridiculously expensive. I'm clueless why the Tories are convinced it's such a vote winning policy

happyhippy posted:

lol Sargon of Akkad and other Gammons are throwing a wobbly in the tweet replies.
BBC HAND PICKED AUDIENCE!!!!!111111GITBREXITDAAHHHHN

Haha that's a name I've not heard in a while.


vvv nah he's right. They are poo poo and so were the AI images.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jun 29, 2023

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