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hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Three Olives posted:

I just zoomed in, that is circa 2000 desktop pc speaker system with subwoofer up front, isn’t it?

Yup.



Behold, the Altec Lansing ACS33 PowerCube 2.1 speaker system. $35 used on eBay.

That’s somehow more infuriating than the controller… and yes, it is loving weird to drive it with that controller because in every single video or photo I’ve seen, someone is waving it around (which makes the CBS anchor facepalm immediately). It’s loving wireless/USB, and not once will you see it actually wired.

This poo poo is insane.

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hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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I mean, forget that this stuff isn’t milspec or rated at all, every piece of technology within the sub looks like it came out of my basement bedroom in 1999. If by some miracle they did surface and the air S&R resources manage to save these people, the CEO needs to be sent directly to Supermax without trial jesus loving christ.

hellotoothpaste
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Wait a goddamn second. I thought the toilet was on the opposite side of the only window, but apparently it’s directly below the only viewport on the sub. There also seems to be a wireless curvy keyboard, again, from my bedroom in 1999. I can’t stand this.

Edit: He throws the loving controller on the ground to show that it’s durable. Forget that could have possibly damaged the navigation controls, but in any sane engineering scenario him doing that would have taken the sub out for maintenance for 3 months or something. I’m mad that I’m so mad.

hellotoothpaste fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jun 20, 2023

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Neeksy posted:

Could you imagine trusting Logitech with your LIFE? Imagine saying yes to a Bluetooth pacemaker by Mad Katz.

Headline: Rich people submarine lost to interference between keyboard/gamepad non-Bluetooth Logitech Universal wireless dongles and Windows Vista support end-of-life.

How much do I want to bet that Starlink wasn’t used for critical comms, it was to stream your fav Spotify playlists via the 2.1 speakers.

hellotoothpaste fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Jun 20, 2023

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Three Olives posted:

Which, can we speak about this?



You are adding more leverage to an already lovely control point, why? The detection is already poo poo for the given degree of motion and you are adding more?

You just pissed me off even more, there are two potentially wireless keyboards and that loving controller. My 2023 Logitech wireless mouse goes from 60fps to 5fps when I turn my headphones on, this is just unbelievable. Completely infuriating that it even exists/existed, no sane person would get in there, see all that poo poo, and commit to the “mission”.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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I would never wish this scenario on anyone in the world, it’s horrifying. I hope for the best. But good lord, if they find this thing on the surface and rescue, it may turn out that the owner was the sole casualty with various blunt force traumas that are keyboard and gamepad shaped.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Guessing we’ll have a few new international maritime laws in the very near future.

Dick Jones posted:

If the electrical system died, and nobody has a battery-powered light source like a phone, they're in pitch blackness.

“It’s alright, we all have phone flashlights and there’s a power strip over here, do we have any chargers?”

*CEO pregnant pause, pulls a pair of 30-pin iPhone cables from the toilet area. Spotify playlist advances to Uptown Funk.*

hellotoothpaste fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Jun 20, 2023

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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This is absolutely going to have boiled down to the fact that this sub is my Ultima Online era gaming rig + toilet + pressure-vessel. Only thing missing is a 19” CRT.

hellotoothpaste
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Deptfordx posted:

I wonder how detectable an implosion would be.

Like are there navy subs tooling around who heard it but didn't have reason to think anything of it.

Or the SOSUS guys heard it but have a strict 'Nothing that reveals our capabilities' policy and are keeping quiet for now.

From what I think I heard during the press conference, an implosion would have been very detectable via sonar buoys but I don’t know much about water science. Here’s that:

https://twitter.com/uscgnortheast/status/1670921772697362433

Also dvidshub is dogshit and a gov site, FYI.

Ralph Crammed In posted:

BBC says Hamish Harding is the billionaire, along with businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman. Don't know if those guys are billionaires.

The businessman is supposed to be one of the richest people in Pakistan, so maybe $B

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hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Ralph Crammed In posted:

Anyone know what kind of battery it uses?

36 AAAs in series, half for the Altec Lansing subwoofer

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Three Olives posted:



Window, toilet, Logitech gaming controller, Elon Musk...



If I guessed correctly and that’s the F710, guess what: You’re either using XInput (the recommended option) or loving DirectInput which I would use to play LEGO Island. Not via configuration file, oh no. A hardware switch on the gamepad.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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loving XInput on a 2.5mi deep submersible, that I didn’t trust with NES emulators over a decade ago enough to build an Arduino interface instead.

hellotoothpaste
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Rahu posted:

If I was running the tour company I would have only taken the sub a hundred feet underwater and then lied about how deep it went. The people inside are watching everything through a camera anyways it would be so easy.

Unless you’re looking out the window, which has poop in a toilet right underneath it.

Croccers posted:

I like the part where he brag's(?) about it not having any buttons or anything and it's all ~~touch screen~~. Wanna bet a passenger spilled a drink or pissed on it and hosed it all up?

And on the GPS/Duh stupid, it doesn't WORK underwater! thing. Not have some kind of sonar distress signal/beacon you could activate and drop/float up? I'm sure you could of cheaped out like the rest of the sub and used those underwater pool speakers somehow.

Those are clearly gloss LCD screens from god knows when/where, but I can’t get a read on what model they are. Betcha they’re capacitive single-touch and barely responsive.

This submarine loving sucks

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Like, when I was six years old I hobbled together poo poo from grandpa’s junk barn to make a cool vehicle: a lawnmower body, a baby carriage sunshade thing, a basket to hold toys in, and I feel like even though it was complete bullshit to push ourselves around in we at least were at par with this thing.

hellotoothpaste
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CuwiKhons posted:

*poop in a ziplock bag

Do you think it's the CEO's job to zip up the bag after someone takes a poo poo? He's the only crewman on board.

The poopsocks were instantly deconstructed by 20,000psi or whatever.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Three Olives posted:

I am genuinely trying to understand why these people were doing this...

The window is clearly useless given they located it in front of the piss and poo poo storage pot, the wreckage is already extensively documented, at best they are viewing the wreckage on some small, Best Buy on-sale medium quality displays...

They were paying to be in proximity to where a bunch of people died horribly over a century ago until it sunk to the sea floor?

Why?

The ultra-rich run out of poo poo to do when the cost is no longer a factor. This one’s surprising because it seems like the company makes the people paying $250k a pop work as “mission specialists”. That sounds like something you can train careless FYGM rich people in a few days to avoid hiring quality assurance/safety audit/people that gently caress with the submersible instead.

It’s like $250k is worth it for that type of person to play “guys in the 20-40 minutes into the movie range” of the Titanic movie, they’re all goofing around with clones of the gem necklace from the movie and poo poo. gently caress

hellotoothpaste
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Ralph Crammed In posted:

My mind keeps lingering on how there are no chairs or seats. They sit on the floor like kindergartners. It's not part of a sexy explorer/adventurer image. The ALVIN has a little seat and benches to take your positions on, not to mention tons of dials and gauges and poo poo, but this is the total visual antithesis of what an explorer's vessel should look like. It's not right, and I would presume that would put off anyone with half a functioning brain to not get into it.

Mine keeps lingering on “who the gently caress cares about Titanic anymore”, and then goes “hmm maybe this is how they reboot the movie” 🤷‍♂️

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Rascar Capac posted:

Funny you should say that, here's Simpsons writer Mike Reiss taking a selfie with the prow of the Titanic.

Photo courtesy of the What Was The Lowest Point of the Simpsons? thread.



He’s taking a poo poo in the window toilet, right?

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Man gently caress all of these people, sympathy be damned.

hellotoothpaste
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CSM posted:

One of the way the submersible can rise is by the dropping the ballast which consist of construction pipes, and the passengers need to rock the ship to the side to make them fall.

Bluetooth is good enough for critical life safety systems & navigation, but apparently not good enough for triggering a servo outside the sub to drop the construction pipes (wtf) ballast

Blow posted:

Does anyone understand exactly how the submersible communicates with the surface ship?

Literally anyone, including people on both vessels? Probably not.

hellotoothpaste
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Further Reading posted:

He said to anywhere deeper than the titanic. The titanic is as deep as the titanic.

I'm not an ocean man though so I'm not sure how needed that level of testing would be.

https://youtu.be/Ai2HmvAXcU0

This is the 777 having its wings load tested to failure. However much more than they should normally bend in an extreme scenario, that multiplier is the safety factor far above loads they will generally encounter. (The money shot failure is at 2:29 or so)

Look at how many people are involved, and how coordinated it is. Realize that every part is certified before it goes into a plane, down to the screws. All of this makes usually cheap parts extremely expensive because they have been tested so thoroughly.

Then think about this sub and how many jankass shortcuts the owner took. I hope they’re located and saved because honestly he doesn’t deserve a 100ms painless blink from existence.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Okay, uhm… I just figured the stepkid was deciding to still go to a Blink 182 concert. Then I saw his handle, and this post from an hour ago. No irony lost on the lyrics.

https://twitter.com/audioguy182/status/1671312625106571264

This is beyond parody, he’s an audio engineer for them which means he is continuing to attend Blink 182 concerts.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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*everyone glares at CEO as rolling the ballast off didn’t go as planned when everyone moved to one side of the sub*

“I didn’t say they were seven feasible ways to surface… does anyone know how to access Device Managers on a computer?”

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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The Dirtiest Harry posted:

He has a job and is going to continue to work his job so he isn’t just stuck at home thinking about his dead/dying stepfather?

I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I trace the cord back to the wall
No wonder, it was never plugged in at all
I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
Sixteen just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside
The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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holefoods posted:

I can’t get over the fact that this wasn’t even a scam. The CEO seems to have genuinely believed that it was just fine to cut corners and say screw regulations to the point where he trusted getting on that death trap. It sounds like it was a loving miracle this didn’t happen much earlier than it did.

Mean Time Before Failure: exceeding safety margin by 3x+, 4.5 times.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Fake news, that controller is wired.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Grey Cat posted:

But you'd download a car?

The future is now, https://car.ipfs.io

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Grey Cat posted:

I hope they brought figgie newtons

Some interview somewhere said that your “snacks” for the trip are a water bottle and a sandwich, Fyre it up.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Prokhor Zakharov posted:

the guy was messing around with the controller in the sub and the last thing any of them heard was the speakers saying FATALITY

*shao khan voice* YOU, SUCK(ed out of a crushed pretend submersible with maximum force)

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Beartaco posted:

Sucks for those people. Would have loved to have seen the court case once they dragged the CEO out of the drink.

Do you reckon they got to see the Titanic at least?

I’ll never get it. These Explorer’s Club folks, I can understand having to somehow spend too much money and doing it by going to space (pretty safe when you get there), up Mount Everest (to die and become a permanent waypoint), whatever other poo poo you need to do when you have more money than you know what to do with.

Who the gently caress cares about the Titanic? I mean really, they made the movie and we’re all on the same page about it. There are full photogrammetric scans of it. Who. loving. Cares.

Stupid-rear end Titanic stupid rear end CEO guy.

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Beartaco posted:

I envy your life that you haven't met at least one person who's really fuckin' into the Titanic.

There are probably only a handful, one made Terminator 2 and used rated vehicles to go check it out. Five are now part of the circle of life because one of them decided to roll-your-own-sub using innovative tools he lucked upon by winning a goon’s unpaid storage unit on Storage Wars.

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Vengarr posted:

It’s about going somewhere extremely few people have ever been. Not about what you do when you get there.

This is why the summit of Everest is covered in trash and frozen turds, and LEO will soon follow it. The Titanic too—unless it can build a reputation for mulching billionaires.

It’s so loving dumb, though. Who cares about the Titanic? Goddamn 1912 china plates still in their cabinets, a bunch of broken poo poo that’s preserved but you have to drive right up to in order to appreciate it. The entire premise of the movie was a warning allegory against being too rich and engineering hubris.

Stupid rear end Titanic. Stupid rear end Titan.

Ralph Crammed In posted:

The news isn't really getting the nuance that it's not just a video game controller, it's a lovely third-party controller. Can't trust the media to bring you the basic facts.

This was infuriating today, all of the hullabaloo on cable news was “it was controlled by a game console controller/XBOX/PlayStation” all up in arms. The passengers loving wish they’d be so fortunate, it was controlled by a USB dongle gamepad with a hardware switch for DInput/XInput. That’s enough to send you to the Hague if you were ever rescued, christ.

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Facebook Aunt posted:

For 250 grand did each guy get his own P bottle or did all 5 have to share one?

They price dropped to $100k I think because the only people paying were dumbasses like a reality show chef and social media influencers, and people from dubious nation states with an outrageous amount of money.

I’ve been saying that if I paid the 1/4 mil to make the dive, showed up and saw this thing, I would be fine with no refund as long as I was immediately returned to land. “Make sure to take your shoes off, here’s the poop seat” NOPE gently caress you y’all are idiots, nevermind I’ll just swim back to shore.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Welp

https://twitter.com/uscgnortheast/status/1671907901542211584

beaten, CNN had just mentioned it this second. I want an image of that gamepad on the ocean floor.

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Dec 21, 2006

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Tijuana-A-Go-Go posted:

This is going to be loving insufferable

My tweets about the controller & speakers went hot, and within 10 minutes I got two “fake news” responses.

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ethanol posted:

people saying its normal to use that controller are absolutely hosed btw. unlike a video game where you can set them down or literally throw them in the case of Stockton rush because it might fall in such a way as to maneuver the sub in some way which kills you. You can bind a button that you have to hold down but now it becomes unintuitive and uncomfortable. It's not even waterproof lol. I don't care that it's not what killed him it's going on the list. this is after I watched the tweet where he explains throwing the controller around to people and lets them drive

Stockton should be at the top of every engineering failure powerpoint they give at all the engineer schools. right next to tacoma narrows, challenger, rbmk reactors etc.

he failed at every thing god bless

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hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

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Whoever dropped “did they find all the small things” in the press conference live chat deserves the Medal of Freedom.

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