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Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

redshirt posted:

"The Asgard would never invent a weapon that propels small weights of iron and carbon alloys, by igniting a powder of potassium nitrate, charcoal and sulfur."

This has always been a great line but it can't help but make me curious about what the Asgard's society looked like when they were at our contemporary tech level. Did they just skip past the gunpowder part of the tech tree? Did their homeworld have radically different raw materials that caused their society to evolve in different ways? Was their society created in its current form by some kind of AyyLamo progenitor species?

I HAVE QUESTIONS, DAMNIT!

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Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Sardonik posted:

This has always been a great line but it can't help but make me curious about what the Asgard's society looked like when they were at our contemporary tech level. Did they just skip past the gunpowder part of the tech tree? Did their homeworld have radically different raw materials that caused their society to evolve in different ways? Was their society created in its current form by some kind of AyyLamo progenitor species?

I HAVE QUESTIONS, DAMNIT!

the Asgard were like that Harry Turtledove short story where alien conquistadors get wrecked by the US Army because they found making FTL so easy they invented it when they were still using swords and never developed things like internal combustion engines or gunpowder.

The Asgard just did that with a ton of other no-way out there tech as well.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Sardonik posted:

This has always been a great line but it can't help but make me curious about what the Asgard's society looked like when they were at our contemporary tech level. Did they just skip past the gunpowder part of the tech tree? Did their homeworld have radically different raw materials that caused their society to evolve in different ways? Was their society created in its current form by some kind of AyyLamo progenitor species?

I HAVE QUESTIONS, DAMNIT!

By the time we meet the Asgard, they are already well into terminal decline, just based on cloning. They are all clones at that point, clones of clones of clones of clones, etc.

The Replicators were finishing them off, but they were already done because of the cloning.

So that part of Asgard society - guns and bullets - might have been 10, 20, 100 thousand years in their past.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

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Cthulu Carl posted:

the Asgard were like that Harry Turtledove short story where alien conquistadors get wrecked by the US Army because they found making FTL so easy they invented it when they were still using swords and never developed things like internal combustion engines or gunpowder.
And the Goa'uld just stole tech from who knows where and occasionally iterated on it, skipping all the steps that might have otherwise gotten them there.

At least in the Stargate universe, the simple tech thing we missed was apparently crystals all along.

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

Cthulu Carl posted:

the Asgard were like that Harry Turtledove short story where alien conquistadors get wrecked by the US Army because they found making FTL so easy they invented it when they were still using swords and never developed things like internal combustion engines or gunpowder.

The Asgard just did that with a ton of other no-way out there tech as well.

Now this would be a rad explanation.

redshirt posted:

By the time we meet the Asgard, they are already well into terminal decline, just based on cloning. They are all clones at that point, clones of clones of clones of clones, etc.

The Replicators were finishing them off, but they were already done because of the cloning.

So that part of Asgard society - guns and bullets - might have been 10, 20, 100 thousand years in their past.

This would make sense but it would be sad if the Asgard had lost that much of their own history. Guess that is part of being a stellaris-style fallen empire.

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redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

stringless posted:

And the Goa'uld just stole tech from who knows where and occasionally iterated on it, skipping all the steps that might have otherwise gotten them there.

At least in the Stargate universe, the simple tech thing we missed was apparently crystals all along.

And humans just stole tech to create the X302 and X303.

Get a new slant.

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