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maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022

Pingui posted:

:itwaspoo:
"Impacts of lid closure during toilet flushing and of toilet bowl cleaning on viral contamination of surfaces in United States restrooms"

quote:

Toilet designs differ globally. Public and private toilets in the United States each create turbulent water flow that may propel and aerosolize any viruses present in the bowl water.

so what are the implications in countries that have bidets on every toilet (e: cutting out the middleman of "bowl water"?)

maxwellhill has issued a correction as of 09:57 on Mar 27, 2024

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maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022

NeonPunk posted:

Try pooping and don't flush

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

when i went to the states I couldn’t get over how much water you guys have in your toilets. you miss out of the joy of turds falling from height into water. literally feel sorry for you all

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

gently caress COREY PERRY posted:

anyone got a good kn95 or equivalent earloop mask recommendation for Canada these days? I like em for quick gas station pop ins and whatnot but my last order sucked, weak bands and a thin material

Breatheteq.

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?
Notes from Plague World, End Of Winter 2023/24 edition

Wife and smaller kid had some kind of insane GI virus; they basically quarantined in a different part of the house. My wife COVID tested constantly and I think tested smaller kid a couple times, no positives.

A day later I got a fever and assumed I was descending into GI hell. I didn't, "just felt like a cold" (negative COVID every day, <48hrs fever), and then a couples day after that my wife developed a similar symptom set. I think we have fucky immune stuff going on and are passing lots of things back and forth.

I saw a rheumatologist about my improving, but ongoing hand pain. I liked him. Bearded and with a mask over it like he knew how to do that. Most people at the hospital are masked now (majority of staff, maybe 50/50 patients in open areas). I was going to cancel the apppointment because I was still tired from prior illness but the next new patient appointment is in January. Yes, that January, the one in 2025.

So, I went I was evaluated, I need to continue with carpal tunnel evaluation but the doctor I saw thinks my joint issues may be something different and he said it "could be" extremely-early-caught rheumatoid arthrhitis, but also the fact I was 100% sure I'd been real sick with COVID in the weeks leading up to this is "very suspicious" and he flat out said

quote:

"we're seeing a ton of people with joint pain and inflammatory pain secondary to COVID. I can't tell you why, I am writing this up as "post viral arthralgia', we'll do x-rays and blood work to rule out any mechanical or ongoing inflammatory process we're able to witness. If your pain gets worse follow up sooner, if it stays managable with ibuprofin then follow up with me in 2 months and we'll see how things are going"

So, this gets back to "doctors generally sympathetic, but not that useful". This is now the 4th doc (2 generalist, 2 specialist) in the past 2 months who has said something along the lines of "we are seeing a significant uptick in these issues following COVID and do not at this time have the data to assess why that is". I find that refreshingly honest. Especially when the person saying it is masked to gently caress.

I skiied 30 days, 200k vertical, workout HR in normal ranges, peak HR still twee too high but gently caress sickness and if the thing that gets me is my heart popping when I'm alone on sticks in the woods, okay, my heart was clearly gonna pop anyway, let's have some fun with it and then also have the luxury of dying alone instead of surrounded by unhelpful idiots fawning over The Dying Guy.

I am so much more loving fatalistic than I was in 2019. Sure I am still dumping money into our retirement accounts but I've also gotten a lot more capricious about buying impractical things to enjoy now vs buying practical things that in theory make life easier over a longer period of time.

e: I also basically quit drinking and ceased my extremely minimal tobacco intake after COVID, am moving towards tincture-only use of THC instead of vaping anything, am slowly tapering my other meds and taking probiotics incl Blis and Bifo and trying to work on my nuitrtion because lol quitting booze dropped me into unhealthy BMI. So, I am definitely not in a hurry to die, I am even taking steps to avoid it! Some of them are steps society considers DRASTIC AND WEIRD like wearing masks in hospitals and stores that have more than 2 other people in them!!

Cabbages and Kings has issued a correction as of 13:29 on Mar 27, 2024

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?

Cabbages and Kings posted:

I was going to cancel the apppointment because I was still tired from prior illness but the next new patient appointment is in January. Yes, that January, the one in 2025.

just quoting myself to highlight how hosed up this is, this is the only option for people in Burlington unless they want to drive 2hrs each way to Berlin, which, last I knew, "only" has a 2 month wait. And then you're doing that drive every time you need to see your provider. Good luck with that if you work a 9-5.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Animal-Mother posted:

from wikipedia:

50% fatality rate? The next pandemic is gonna be REALLY rough for people who demand immediate service in restaurants.

As long as they get that last burst of endorphins from being served by the untermensch class they won't care

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


That NYT pandemic fatigue article even has a bit about a couple that went out to eat for their 65th anniversary during 2021, both got covid and died. Americans have no higher purpose than eating out.

Jigsaw
Aug 14, 2008

The Oldest Man posted:



just waiting on the "what about the opportunity cost of not eating baconators" and "getting hit by a car is fine stop being splatterphobic" op eds

poo poo, this reminds me: did they ever release the 2022 numbers? or are they still MIA

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
https://x.com/tristanveness/status/1772964316821529044?s=46

2 years and HIV drugs after their first and only Covid infection, they’ve gotten their T cells up 50% which is enough to not constantly get sick from colds

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

toggle posted:

when i went to the states I couldn’t get over how much water you guys have in your toilets. you miss out of the joy of turds falling from height into water. literally feel sorry for you all

some of the toilets in places like state and national parks in the mountains are just a seat over a really really really deep hole and its a whole other experience to pinch one off and hear nothing

durrneez
Feb 20, 2013

I like fish. I like to eat fish. I like to brush fish with a fish hairbrush. Do you like fish too?
is the person behind ClearAirKits.com a goon?

i put in an order for two of their kits. a little pricey but worth the splurge in the long run for me.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Steve Yun posted:

2 years and HIV drugs after their first and only Covid infection, they’ve gotten their T cells up 50% which is enough to not constantly get sick from colds

the core question is 'did the hiv drugs/supplements/everything else actually do anything, or was it just time'.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

deadwing posted:

the core question is 'did the hiv drugs/supplements/everything else actually do anything, or was it just time'.

All of my gay friends are on PREP and very much back to normal. Cruises, parties, movies, travel, etc. Being a boring, married monogamous gay I am not. It would be a serious LOL moment for me if the drug that has reset gay life to the hedonism of the pre-AIDS era is also how they're tanking COVID infections.

(I say this as someone who is very much in favor of PREP.)

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

All of my gay friends are on PREP and very much back to normal. Cruises, parties, movies, travel, etc. Being a boring, married monogamous gay I am not. It would be a serious LOL moment for me if the drug that has reset gay life to the hedonism of the pre-AIDS era is also how they're tanking COVID infections.

(I say this as someone who is very much in favor of PREP.)

one of the most brutal wake-up calls for me was when my wife and i spent a bunch of time in 2020 getting groceries for a gay friend of ours who had just had a bone marrow transplant while he hid in his apartment and literally didn't go outside for 10 months, then when his doc certified his new immune system as Ready to gently caress he completely ghosted us (since, you know, my wife's medical vulnerabilities are permanent and this was A Big Downer) and started going on cruises.

i cant be that mad at him because he almost died of horrific blood cancer that has some Real poo poo 10 year survival numbers regardless of what he does, but my wife particularly really invested a lot of time supporting this guy when his poo poo was totally hosed by treatment, even before covid, and getting dumpstered by a friend of many years when it was her turn to have needs really loving sucks

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Jigsaw posted:

poo poo, this reminds me: did they ever release the 2022 numbers? or are they still MIA

We got to a little over a million dead like two years ago and just stopped counting.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Yup, Covid is over. My dumb country stopped counting the dead in July of last year, somehow changed the hospitalization statistics from patients to admissions, obviously stopped all tests, but still does wastewater which only got comprehensive some time last year. Can't compare numbers with the time before it was over. Though there was more covid in Austrian poo poo during last winter than at any other time on record.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Had some training today with one coworker who called out sick Monday earlier this week. He looked like poo poo today, constantly blowing his nose and weeping eyes and mentioned that he has a stomach thing too

"Oh it just must be the allergies acting up"

Old Swerdlow
Jul 24, 2008

Jyrraeth posted:

I like these guys. https://www.ppe-supply.com/

I couldn't get the vitacore to work with my face, but the ppe-supply ones fit me well, come in fun colours and they're always having sales. Ships from Toronto.

My wife ordered some and may finally go back to wearing a mask again because they come in colours! She doesn’t like my tight headband hospital-looking rear end masks I wear.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

NeonPunk posted:

Had some training today with one coworker who called out sick Monday earlier this week. He looked like poo poo today, constantly blowing his nose and weeping eyes and mentioned that he has a stomach thing too

"Oh it just must be the allergies acting up"

the classic hay fever symptoms. sneezing, and uncontrollable diarrhea

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
This Death Panel is really good https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/refusing-to-forget-w-vicky-osterweil-032124

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.
Washington State's Respiratory Illness Dashboard.




Positive clinical cases (tests administered at CLIA certified or CLIA waived labs) as reported by healthcare facility.



pre:
Cases      Changes in state counts reported:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -    + 1,100    ↓ 21.3%     1,100
Mar 10            -        -    1,344       + 54    ↓ 14.0%     1,398
Mar 03            -    1,543       76        + 7    ↓ 23.8%     1,626
Feb 25        1,976      132       24        + 1    ↓ 18.5%     2,133
Feb 18          160       59        3       + 23     ↓ 3.1%     2,616
Thru 2023        83       20        5        - 1              170,891
Emergency Visits with confirmed COVID-19 in Washington state facilities. Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Most recent week of data is incomplete.



pre:
ED Visits      Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -      + 402    ↓ 27.7%       402
Mar 10            -        -      497       + 59    ↓ 13.7%       556
Mar 03            -      602       -8       + 50    ↓ 19.3%       644
Feb 25          701       46       51          -    ↓ 12.2%       798
Feb 18           55       50        -          -     ↓ 3.7%       909
Thru 2023        52        -        -          -               58,275


New hospital admissions in Washington state facilities with laboratory confirmed COVID-19 as reported by the state and HHS. Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Most recent week of data is incomplete.



pre:
Hosp. Admissions      Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -      + 191     ↓ 1.0%       191
Mar 10            -      250        -       - 57    ↓ 15.4%       193
Mar 03          263      -35        -          -    ↓ 15.6%       228
Feb 25           -4        -        -          -     ↑ 6.3%       270
Feb 18            -        -        -          -    ↓ 10.2%       254
Thru 2023         -        -        -          -               17,029
Total occupied inpatient beds (excludes ICU beds) used in Washington state facilities with diagnostic codes for COVID-19 (U07.1) and pneumonia due to COVID-19 (J12.82). Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence.



pre:
Beds in Use      Changes in Recent Counts:	
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -    + 1,029     ↓ 7.5%     1,029
Mar 10            -        -    1,113          -    ↓ 17.6%     1,113
Mar 03            -    1,351        -          -    ↓ 15.7%     1,351
Feb 25        1,603        -        -          -     ↓ 5.4%     1,603
Feb 18            -        -        -          -    ↓ 13.3%     1,694
Thru 2023         -        -        -          -              111,433
Total occupied ICU beds used in Washington state facilities with diagnostic codes for COVID-19 (U07.1) and pneumonia due to COVID-19 (J12.82). Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence.



pre:
ICU in Use      Changes in Recent Counts:	
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -       + 91         -         91
Mar 10            -        -       91          -    ↓ 35.0%        91
Mar 03            -      140        -          -    ↓ 16.7%       140
Feb 25          168        -        -          -     ↓ 4.0%       168
Feb 18            -        -        -          -    ↓ 21.9%       175
Thru 2023         -        -        -          -               12,558
Recent deaths certified/coded as, or referencing to, COVID-19 in WHALES with a corresponding positive lab (including postmortem testing) as reported in WDRS. Most recent two weeks of data are incomplete.



pre:
Deaths    Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Mar 17            -        -        -          -         -          -
Mar 10            -        -        -       + 19     ↑ 5.6%        19
Mar 03            -        -       15        + 3    ↓ 14.3%        18
Feb 25            -       16        5          -    ↓ 41.7%        21
Feb 18           30        4        1        + 1     ↓ 5.3%        36
Thru 2023         6        4        4        + 2                1,858
Notes on Data and Limitations:
  • In this post I provide alternative visualizations for the overall weekly disease activity and reporting on weekly confirmed case positives, emergency department (ED) visits, new hospitalizations, total inpatients/occupied hospital beds, and confirmed deaths. Additionally I provide changes in COVID-19 activity due to backfill.
  • Trends are calculated based on the % change in the totals for the most recent week of data compared to the second most recent. This differs from the state's trend % as they are doing a % change of a % of ED visits and hospitalizations, respectively.
  • Columns with a bright bar are the new additions for this week's report. Darker columns are from previously published weekly reports. An outlined column is where previously established numbers have been reduced with this week's report.
  • These graphs were put together by using a multitude of resources spanning from the Washington State Department of Health all the way to the CDC and HHS. All of these state and federal reports use the standardized Sunday-Saturday 7-day definition.
  • Reinfections are only counted when equal to or greater than 90 days since prior recorded infection unless both samples were sequenced and found to be different subvariants.
  • All numbers except for cases and deaths are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Totals are extrapolated by applying the state's weekly hospitalizations or ED visit % to the HHS' reporting of hospitalizations and ED visits due to all causes. Beds occupied by COVID-19 is the weekly average multiplied by 7 days, and beds occupied by influenza is from HHS reports.
  • A COVID-19, Influenza, or RSV death is only counted by the state if data is complete (cause of death is attributed to the disease and there is an associated laboratory positive test with no period of complete recovery between illness and death). The only exception is that RSV does not need a test, only that it is indicated as cause on the death certificate.
---
Sources:

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.
Bold lines in the tables are new since the previous update.

Olympic Peninsula & Northwest Wash.

pre:
Olympic Peninsula & Northwest Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Jefferson	PT	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 30%
Mason		Biobot	(4)	Mar-23	DOWN	   - 25%
Skagit		ANA	(1)	Mar-19	UP	   + 35%
Skagit		MV	(1)	Mar-21	UP	   + 25%
Whatcom		LYN	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 15%
North Puget Sound [1 of 2]

pre:
North Puget Sound [1 of 2]
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Island		COUP	(1)	Mar-22	DOWN	   - 45%
Island		OH	(1)	Mar-18	STEADY	   ±  1%
Snohomish	APP	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 15%
Snohomish	ARL	(1)	Mar-21	STEADY	   ±  3%
Snohomish	EVR	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 30%
Snohomish	STAN	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 40%
Snohomish	256	(3)	Mar-22	UP	   + 60%
North Puget Sound [2 of 2]

pre:
North Puget Sound [2 of 2]
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
King		BWT	(1)	Mar-20	UP	   + 90%
King		KCS	(1)	Mar-20	UP	   +200%
King		WSPT	(1)	Mar-19	DOWN	   - 20%
South Puget Sound & Southwest

pre:
South Puget Sound & Southwest
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Clark		MRPK	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 10%
Clark		SNCK	(1)	Mar-21	STEADY	   ±  3%
Clark		VWS	(1)	Mar-20	STEADY	   ±  4%
Lewis		Biobot	(4)	Mar-23	DOWN	   - 25%
Pierce		CC	(1)	Mar-22	STEADY	   ±  8%
Pierce		PUY	(1)	Mar-21	UP	   + 15%
Thurston	LOTT	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 20%
North & South Central Wash.

pre:
North & South Central Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Benton		WRCH	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 20%
Chelan		WEN	(1)	Mar-18	DOWN	   - 70%
Grant		EPH	(1)	Mar-20	DOWN	   - 40%
Kittitas	ELL	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 25%
Okanogan	BRW	(1)	Mar-14	DOWN	   - 40%
Yakima		YAK	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 15%
Northeast & Southeast Wash.

pre:
Northeast & Southeast Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Franklin	PAS	(1)	Mar-22	UP	   + 35%
Spokane		RP	(1)	Mar-22	UP	   + 10%
Spokane		SPK	(1)	Mar-22	UP	   + 55%
Walla Walla	WALLA	(1)	Mar-21	DOWN	   - 40%
Whitman		PLM	(1)	Mar-22	STEADY	   ±  8%
Solid lines are generated from normalized and smoothed data provided by the Washington State Department of Health (WADoH Ref. (1) ), Verily/WastewaterSCAN (WWS Ref. (3) ), and Biobot (Ref. (4) ).

White diamond dots are from most recent CDC/NWSS (Ref. (2) ) data scaled to supplement missing or out-dated data when available.

Because each of these four groups use different normalization methods, different smoothing methods, and different averaging/location identifiers, the concentration of virus is not comparable between locations. See reference links at the bottom of this post for more details.

There are 33 sewersheds distributed across 6 charts grouped by region then alphabetized by county and sewershed. The tables below contain WADoH or NWSS/WSS IDs (to match their respective dashboards), Date last sampled, Trend (based on the change between the averages of the two most recent weeks), and 7-Day Change (approx. amount the trend has increased or decreased).

All data presented are smoothed in some degree to even out inconsistent sampling dates and extreme highs and lows. Most sewersheds are sampled 1-3 times a week and are published within a week. Some locations are late reporting by 10 days or more so be sure to note your sewershed's Date in the table or graph. Locations that are more than two weeks old will have n/a listed under Trend to indicate there it is out of date.

References with links to details on y-axis units, normalization protocols, data limitations, and sampling methods:

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

what is the deal with those random spikes at the end of February? valentines day? spring break?

bobtheconqueror
May 10, 2005

Oracle posted:

what is the deal with those random spikes at the end of February? valentines day? spring break?

Probably v-day plus Superbowl.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

bobtheconqueror posted:

Probably v-day plus Superbowl.

Super Bowl is end of Jan

bred
Oct 24, 2008
Valentine's Day has historically created a baby boom in November. This year, we can expect a vessel burst in April.

bobtheconqueror
May 10, 2005

Oracle posted:

Super Bowl is end of Jan

This year's was February 11th, but yeah that's still earlier than I thought lol.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

oh boy, there’s a ‘stomach bug’ going around among the younger kid having set.

seems to be lasting 2-7 days, diarrhea and vomiting, with a pause after the first 24-48 hours where everyone feels better then they go down again.

wonder what it could be. If we only had the tools… (it’s probably (norovirus)

Oracle has issued a correction as of 04:49 on Mar 28, 2024

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

:yeah:

I gave it a second listen. Really good one.

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.

Oracle posted:

oh boy, there’s a ‘stomach bug’ going around among the younger kid having set.

seems to be lasting 2-7 days, diarrhea and vomiting, with a pause after the first 24-48 hours where everyone feels better then they go down again.

wonder what it could be. If we only had the tools… (it’s probably (norovirus)

https://data.wastewaterscan.org/ Yeah, scrolling down it has norovirus as 'High' nationwide.

Oh hey, in fact it seems to be the 2nd highest it's been since they started recording. Highest was about this time last year.



Marvelous.

DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012

Norovirus recently caught a case of Laura Loomer:

https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1771470478160368035 posted:

Spent the night in the hospital after my symptoms continued to get worse. I have elevated white blood cells and doctors said I have Norovirus, which explains why I suddenly became very sick, fatigued and dizzy to the point of not being able to stand up last night quite randomly and aggressively.

I am grateful for everyone’s well wishes. Going to spend the weekend resting so I can do
@LoomerUnleashed
on Tuesday.

Hope I didn’t pick it up in Panama in the Darien Gap from any surface contact on my belongings in the migrant camps. Apparently it can last on surfaces for weeks.

Never felt so sick before.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Comparing the Austrian boards with the US ones posted above.
weekly hospitalizations:



Now, correlation isn't causation, but someone should look into the idea that covid waves cause RSV and flu waves.

It's kind of interesting that Austria went all in on getting everyone sick over the winter while the US is doing the slower burn this time.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Wake me (it’s already been three weeks) when they look for rhinovirus.

The textbooks say that rhinoviruses cause more infections in humans than any other family. I think that they’re wrong.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


it's that guy again!!! suspiciously anti-cancerphobia

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Once everyone has caught cancer, we can be immune and move past this

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
looking forward to 20 years from now” no need to fear ALS”

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Once everyone has caught cancer, we can be immune and move past this
the Joe Biden cancer moonshot is coming along nicely

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


"don't worry poors, it's not that bad getting cancer. we have MAID now. what, you wanna get old and not retire, just keep working while living in a van? better hope your AC doesn't break"

this is essentially the message i get from the news these days, when i bother to read it

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


“Don’t be a pussy” worked spectacularly for covid and it will be applied to every single problem facing us in the near future.

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