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NEW BOOSTERS ARE HERE! you can sign up now* at your local pharmacy for the next generation of boosters * applies to the US, the pharmacies may not take your insurance yet (~$120+ out of pocket), and the kid versions (6mo - 11) are approved but not shipped yet
if you are sick, go see a healthcare professional. if your healthcare professional disagrees with something someone posted on Something Awful, a dead comedy forum, listen to your healthcare professional or possibly consult with another healthcare professional and get a second opinion.
There are several covid threads in SA. this one is in cspam. that means it has strongly leftist politics, jokes and white noise posts, a significant lack of punctuation and capitalization, and also when someone posts something stupid there are rude words about it if that's not your speed, there are other options! GBS covid thread. D&D covid thread. goon doctor covid thread. each have their own vibe. check them out! Good things about this particular covid thread:
Bad things (in general):
Bad things are met with probations and bans and ridicule from your fellow posters Over the last 6 iterations of this thread, a massive amount of information has been shared, aggregated and collected. here is some of it:
COVID is still here COVID is airborne and travels through the air and lingers like smoke We can reduce our risk do i have covid (rapids, PCRs) If you’re having symptoms or otherwise think you might have been exposed to covid, you should test. Rapid antigen tests (RATs) are still free in some states/communities (check local/state health sites), but otherwise cost about $20 for two tests. these are the tests that swab your nose. if you test negative and still have symptoms, you should test again the next day to confirm the negative (thats why there are always two tests). rapids are now less effective at detecting omicron, especially in the first two days of infection. you can increase the sensitivity of rapids by also swabbing your mouth/back of your throat, and hitting your nasal cavity. Ontario Health's recommendations on how to properly do that. Here's a video of a surgeon demonstrating the "low and slow" method of swabbing your nasal cavity. if you get a positive rapid test, you have covid. if you have symptoms or must absolutely be sure after an known exposure, etc. take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test. these have very low false positive and false negative rates and are what the rich and powerful use before they'll let people into their Oval Office, etc. some states still do same day free PCRs (check local/state health sites). you can get them at clinics or buy home use tests (Lucira is the standard here). if you get a positive PCR test, you have covid. i have covid, wtf do i do now (paxlovid, probably) stay the gently caress home. guidance used to be stay home 10 days or until symptoms stop (whichever is longer). Delta Airlines sent a letter about labor shortages and now current CDC guidance is stay home 5 days (quarantine), and mask in all public areas (isolate) for the next 5 days, or until symptoms stop (whichever is longer). stay hydrated and rest. if you have a pulse oximeter (apple watches have one or $15 off Amazon) the general rule is to go to the hospital if it drops below 90%, but talk to your doctor if you're concerned. even if you are vaccinated, there are several treatments that drive down the risk of severe disease even further. Paxlovid is an oral antiviral that reduced hospitalizations/deaths by 86% in clinical trials. It's currently the preferred covid treatment unless you are young or have severe renal or hepatic impairment. If you are under 12 and your liver (or kidneys!) dont work so good, remesivir is an IV antiviral that reduced hospitalizations/deaths by 87%. If your kidneys are hosed and you're over 18, you might get another oral antiviral, molnupiravir. It had a 30% reduction in hospitalizations/deaths. we used to have mABs, but they've all fallen as covid has evolved. blame Tom Hanks. all antivirals have to be started soon after symptom onset and before you get truly sick ("severe" = hospitalized). 5 days for paxlovid and molnupiravir, and 7 for remdesivir. Using telehealth and local delivery/pick up can be critical to getting treatment in time. you have to move fast and you may be too sick to really want to do that. and all treatments require prescriptions, so seriously, don't wait around if you think you might need treatment. Paxlovid and molnupiravir come in 10 doses over 5 days. there are frequently rebounds of covid symptoms after 5 days of Paxlovid, but the reduction in hospitalizations and death are undeniable regardless. Particularly vulnerable people like Dr Fauci take 10 day courses when they have covid. remdesivir is 2 days of IVs at a clinic. All treatments have significant contraindications -- i.e., when talking to the doctor, be extremely comprehensive in the medications you take and underlying medical conditions you have. this should be a no brainer for every prescription, but just in case: with Paxlovid you'll be taking an effective combination drug that includes two antivirals, including one that was developed for the treatment of HIV--this medication does not gently caress around. Drug-Drug Interactions Between Ritonavir-Boosted Nirmatrelvir (Paxlovid) and Concomitant Medications AND Searchable Drug Interaction Checker Both CBD & THC interact with Paxlovid. telehealth sites that prescribe covid treatments Sesame Care (varies aprox$40) (goon preferred!) PlushCare ($129) Push Health ($69) there is lots of gatekeeping with paxlovid and remdesivir. there is a perception that they should only be used for the very sick or old or vulnerable. Not true! the FDA indication for treatment is mild-to-moderate covid + high risk for progression to severe covid. (pax, rem). You're supposed to take them before you get very sick. And great news if you're fat and/or sad and/or alive on this planet: You probably have one or more underlying conditions that put you at higher risk for covid loving you up and qualify! Exotic underlying conditions include asthma, physical inactivity, depression, ADHD, BMI over 30, pregnancy, smoking (current or former), using corticosteroids, and more! A complete list of underlying medical conditions can be found on the CDC website here. regardless of intervention, you may get long covid, which means suffering from symptoms beyond the acute phase of the disease. sometimes for months or longer. currently, the best ways to avoid long covid are to rest (seriously rest), to not have severe disease (see above) and to be one of the 90ish% of people who dont get long covid what should i inject myself with so covid doesn't gently caress me up so much? (boosters) a booster shot! new boosters are scheduled to come out fall 2023. current estimate is that they'll cost about $100 then. hopefully you have insurance and insurance pays for it. read the thread for the latest news WHO guidance on when to top off with another booster: every six or twelve months for older adults, those who have comorbidities (see above) or who are immunocompromised or pregnant, and frontline health care workers. Unfortunately, that is just what the WHO is recommending. check with your own health officials and/or insurance to see what they'll actually cover and let you get. Vaccine Finder - find vaccines near you or just like walk into a pharmacy and they've probably got some http://www.healthdata.org/covid/covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-summary- vaccine efficacy summary NYT Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker - breakdown of every vaccine in development with explanations of how they work/how well they work um sorry there isn't more here. MRNA vaccines were going to be loving amazing, but it turns out if the multinational pharmaceutical company doesn't get a guaranteed income from sovereign states they'll just not actually make the updated shots once a quarter what should i buy so i dont get covid (masks and corsi cubes) Even fresh vaccines don't 100% prevent transmission of covid, and it kind of sucks to get covid, so here are some tried and true consumer products that help you avoid getting covid while still participating in society. Fit testing your mask means checking that you're actually breathing through the filter medium. The quick way is to spray a bitterant, like 3M's FT-32. Reusable Respirators - the masks painters, carpenters and road side constructioners wear. or used to wear before masks got political 3M Secure Click Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator with Speaking Diaphragm HF-802SD - the thread MVP for reusable respirators - Filters for the Secure Click: P100 Soft Case, P100 Hard Case 3M Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator 7502 - a valved option, fully silicone model fits a wide range of faces. 3M Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator 6200 - lightweight, inexpensive, reliable - Filters for non Secure Click: P100 Hard Case Disposable Respirators - N95 masks. head straps rather than ear loops. solid protection on planes and trains. what you saw politicians wearing while everyone else was sewing cloth masks 3M Aura Particulate Respirator 9210- the thread MVP for disposable respirators, might be a tight fit on a big head 3M VFlex Particulate Respirator 9105- probably the best fit for a big goony head, looks like you have a duck bill Gerson Duckbill 3230 N95 - another option if you have a big goony head, looks like you have a duck bill 3M Aura Particulate Respirator 9205 at United Canada Inc, Auras in boxes of 20 or cases of 440 FFP3 Respirators for Euro goons: 3M Aura Particulate Respirator 9330+ -unvalved 3M Aura Particulate Respirator 9332+- valved P2 Respirators for Aus goons: 3M Aura Particulate Respirator 9320A+ - unvalved 3M Aura Flat Fold Particulate Respirator 9422+ -valved Some Aus goons recommend WorkSafeGear and Southland Supply KF94/KN95 Masks for Kids N95s are an NIOSH rating, and since kids can't work (until recent legislation) you aren't going to find N95s specifically for kids. What you will find are KF94s and KN95s, which are Korean and Chinese standards. Goon parents group linked this google sheet which at a glance is the most useful thing I've ever seen w/r/t kids and useful masks https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Q24Vv8MPk#gid=0 Some goons have also found that FloMask is a good fit for their kids https://flomask.com/ Other masks While N95s are the US standard, well fitted KF94 ear loops do provide protection and may be more comfortable over many hours. https://behealthyusa.net/ has many different styles for adults and children. "Surgicals" are the masks you found at the front of the grocery store in summer 2020. They do not protect yourself or those around you from airborne pathogens. They are mostly recycled toilet paper dyed blue and are not what anyone actually wears in an operating theater. the box they came in will have fine print that says "Not certified for surgical or medical use." If you can at all get a better mask, please do. Cloth masks. why do you still have one of those?? please post the JOANN's fabric pattern Build a Corsi Cube to increase air filtration at home! do you want to be like Biden with rapid, fresh, filtered air exchanges everywhere you go, but also youre still on a budget? Build a Corsi cube! Made with four air filters, duct tape and a box fan (including the box), corsi-rosenthal cubes are cheap, effective air purifiers. People run them especially when someone in the home has tested positive, or they are put in classrooms with limited ventilation, or for wild fire smoke and allergies. And they're popular enough you can score deals on 4 packs of filters at your local hardware store or even Amazon sometimes. Here is everything you need to know about how to build your own corsi cube: https://cleanaircrew.org/boxfanfilterfaq they're great, they're loud (on high), and they can be your next furniture statement piece (that will look like dirty rear end within 6 months and need to be rebuilt). Previous threads! for illegal remembering of things Jan 2020, Apr 2020, May 2020, Jun 2020, Aug 2021, Mar 2022 general resources https://johnsnowproject.org/ - general and comprehensive covid resource, well-sourced fosborb has issued a correction as of 00:18 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 15:51 |
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Last minute questions in the last threadwillroc7 posted:Are there any good new data or studies out there regarding pediatric booster effectiveness? My kids are about a year out since their last shots and ~9 months since infection. With school starting up again next week I’m thinking it’s best to get them a booster now rather than wait for the updated monovalent next month. The Demilich posted:Anyone have the studies on hand about keeping physical activity to a minimum for a month and some change?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 05:31 |
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nexous posted:thanks for the reboot and new OP. glad my list of good and bad things was taken into consideration. it was extremely good, thank you for putting it together for SAD
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 05:34 |
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Spoondick posted:they shipped us rsv vaccine a week ago but we can't administer it because they haven't got around to giving us a protocol yet all i hear over the grocery store radio now is ads for RSV vaccines for old people. non stop loop at Safeway and Giant
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 05:44 |
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:lol they made you mod. good luck talked about it with Jeffery and i'll be going through each megathread to reboot them
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 05:45 |
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Chamale posted:The goon doctor covid thread isn't worth linking to - it has no posts since May 2020, so any information there is badly outdated. people seemed very interested in having a covid thread in the goon doctor forum and I was surprised they didn't know it already had one
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 05:53 |
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 06:03 |
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nexous posted:do we know when exactly the new booster comes out? and if it will be gatekept? my wife is going to Japan at the end of September and I’ll be having my kidney cancer removed around the same time. would like us both to be boosted for that but I fear it won’t be out in time "by the end of September," but possibly into October before they get shipped and actually available. haven't seen anything more specific yet.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 06:08 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:I, for one, am shocked that the individuals that personally caused this pandemic whom i wish violence against to protect this crazy insane thread which I encourage to make homemade bleach to wash their food and gossip about the latest celebrety mystery covid death with, would be a nefarious posting cabal crew trying to shut down this thread to whom I wish disease upon as they do not follow covid precautions to the same degree that I do after an extensive conversation with The Team, i'm sorry we have to delete your account now
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 06:27 |
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The Demilich posted:Joevid-19: Beau's Revenge (Dupont Heir edition) The Demilich, i'm sorry i rebooted the thread immediately after your question. i've been trying to find citations on your "how long to rest after covid" question and i'm not having success yet on anything that isn't New Yorker posts talking about how having covid is a great time to recharge
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 07:22 |
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pillsburysoldier posted:What long covid treatments exist that are any good? still being studied. get into a study if a new one opens up otherwise, do everything to avoid severe disease, rest lots and lots, and hope you are in the vast majority of people who did not get long covid after an infection.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 07:25 |
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Parity warning posted:i'll tolerate a covid thread (sigh) but where's the pestilence thread there were 169 title changes in the previous thread. happy to change this one asap, too, but wanted to open with a blank slate.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 07:28 |
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pillsburysoldier posted:Saw a super promising one for taste/smell last year with like 80+% success post it?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 07:28 |
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quote:Eligible subjects had prior COVID-19 and persistent olfactory impairment >6 months after follow-up SARS-CoV-2 negative testing, without prior history of olfactory dysfunction or other sinonasal disorders. i used to professionally cook and the possibility of not being able to smell properly for any length of time has messed with me, ngl
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 07:46 |
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Fansy posted:I'd like to see some of the woo w/ a bit of research behind it added to the OP. Particularly nasal sprays and rinses for both prevention and treatment. throw some links my way. my understanding is that studies are ongoing but still inconclusive so I'm going to approach it that way unless you send me something different
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 13:31 |
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Petey posted:thank you for the new op and thread fosborb! just fyi: remdesivir has now been cleared for those with impaired kidney function, including those on dialysis: https://www.gilead.com/news-and-pre...ose-on-dialysis. this wording might make someone think you can't take it (and have to settle for thor's hammer) if you have bad kidneys. lol of course HHS's side-by-side comparison was updated in June and guidance on remdesivir updated late June and is not reflected thanks for the heads up!
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 13:34 |
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Buffer posted:anywho, is there anything I can use to feel better about this whole "pre-pandemic school posture" thing? I've been pretty loving keyed up since like Friday if it wasn't obvious. our kids are in kf94s and they haven't caught it from school yet (index case was grandparents who were swimming indoors apparently) I know that doesn't really help. lovely situation all around
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 14:00 |
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lol it's a local news typo primary source says 100.4 https://www.lausd.org/site/default....135624&PageID=1
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 14:05 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:People casually looking over the news before gong to work are going to see 104 F, they're going to tell everyone around them that kids aren't sick unless they're 104+, and in ten years it'll just be accepted wisdom and no on will remember where it came from. when I hit 104 even as a kid that was fever dream territory the school nurse will still be sending kids home as soon as that poo poo hits 100.5 of course, in our last district they were down to 1 nurse for every 3 schools, soooooo
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 14:10 |
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Al! posted:tested positive for covid this morning but im going in anyway because i dont want to use my sick time unless i really need it. i think theyre all vaxxed and i can do my best to avoid my coworker with lupis. it really sucks because i have baseball tickets for tonight, and i wont be able to cheer as hard assuming sincerity for the work bit, I'm sorry you are in a work environment where you are not able to follow the CDCs guidance of quarantining at home for 5 days. work sucks and I'd be pissed if I was your coworker
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 16:50 |
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Lib and let die posted:Kids and a single-earner income to support them? when our youngest was born, it was cheaper to keep her home than to have 2 incomes plus pay for daycare plus insurance that wouldn't let you use the family plan if the other spouse could get insurance through their work.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 18:21 |
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Coolness Averted posted:
this was a bad data point, right?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 18:23 |
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Salt Fish posted:The problem is that everyone else just didn't get my humor. no one reported the joke post! growth! definitely checking myself for early onset mod brain though
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 19:02 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Lol I had a fever of 104 when I was a little kid and my mom ended up putting me in an ice bath because I was delirious and on the ragged edge of frying my brain. every time I have visited St Louis I've had a 104 fever hard not to take it personally
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 20:03 |
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Pyrolocutus posted:Well this is ominous. THEYRE HEALED!
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 22:52 |
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U-DO Burger posted:lol the uptake numbers on the next booster are going to be even worse the only way I see Pfizer hitting their projected numbers is if the CDC and FDA get it together in the next few months and push boosters as hard as flu shots are pushed (doctors visits, clinics at work and churches, etc)
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2023 03:04 |
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Rosalind posted:Since I was invited to participate in this thread and since the OP was said to be rewritten to be more accurate, I just wanted to point out: thank you! this is really helpful
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2023 17:41 |
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general thread thing I'm begging everyone to please put at least some context around tweets about a celebrity being unspecifically ill is this related to covid? he had it earlier, right? is it something else? is there some element to the story that makes it fit itt? I get enough contextless celebrity gossip from my bing.com homepage
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2023 19:32 |
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icantfindaname posted:I've been playing Ocarina on the 3ds and I fired up the original game in an emulator just to see and jesus christ this game runs at, I am not kidding here, 17 frames per second how do you count that fast
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 00:39 |
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Real Mean Queen posted:Sure, but the second, third and fourth sentences are probably better because you build up immunity
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 03:40 |
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Bastard Tetris posted:I will never get over how funny the duck masks are, I love them it was the go to Pentagon staffer mask in 2020 and it was always hilarious
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 14:08 |
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Rosalind posted:They will learn that I am incredibly stubbornly persistent in the face of stupid bureaucracy. thread is loving back lol
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 17:39 |
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BONGHITZ posted:that seals the deal, never going to Nebraska
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 17:47 |
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harrygomm posted:i just caught up to the SAD thread that led to this version of the thread being created. is there an easy way to compare what Forbidden Covid Knowledge was in the previous OP that had to be taken out vs. current OP? i could do it easily enough in word or whatever, but, phone posting atm just click the link for the last thread. it's at the bottom of the current op, as are all the previous threads I have no interest in relitigating that SAD thread itt, just to be clear
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 00:14 |
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lol first locally transmitted malaria case in the DC area in the last 40 years just announced tonight
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 03:24 |
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Platystemon posted:It’s falciparum malaria. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2859240/ posted:The neurological complications of falciparum malaria are often associated with dysfunction of other organs and systems, with effects such as severe anemia, hypoglycemia, acute renal failure, hepatic impairment, and coagulation disorders. concerning, but, good news! Petey posted:* in addition to remdesivir now being approved for people with kidney disease, looks like Paxlovid will be there soon based on the positive outcomes of this trial (and probably could be given off-label now?) https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/cid/ciad371/7230618
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 12:19 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also note they somehow found a stock photo of a kid getting jabbed where they're not wincing or screaming in pain remember when the vaccines first came out and it was all pictures of athletes and politicians not wincing to prove shots are good / to justify getting the shot ahead of HCWs and old people?
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 17:20 |
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cross posting from a SAD thread Posting about giving away prescription drugs is not okay in the COVID thread, and CK09 is already probed for it. discussing about why people are hoarding seems to fit within a political discussion and seems okay to me. posting about ways to hoard that isn't done via a prescription (or that involves lying or lying through omission) is not okay either. don't lie to your doctor. concert posting is not okay. it's in the rules because it generates weird posts. missed the post from earlier today. no, no one should lie to doctors. phone posting on break so i haven't caught them all, but more probes will be coming for that.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 19:52 |
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Rosalind posted:Nearly every post I make here is interpreted in the most bad faith way possible so welcome to the club it sucks. I'm sorry you feel that way. I think you have added a tremendous amount of good posts and level headed commentary in just the last week you've posted itt alone.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 19:59 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 15:51 |
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silicone thrills posted:Is it hoarding advil when i keep a bottle of it around in case I get a headache? i don't think you're saying this, but it's being misread as such. if I go into walgreens right now and grab a handful of boxes of childrens tylenol I think that would be considered hoarding because there have been shortages all over. that's assuming the Walgreens would even let you, tbh. a bit moot, because 1) there appears to be no shortage of paxlovid, and 2) the prescription / non-prescription access differences make it an entirely different situation I think
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 21:18 |