Grey Fox posted:

https://twitter.com/LAUSDSup/status/1691543990125137920 lmao this quote

quote:

Here’s when to keep your student home

When your child has a fever over 104°F

Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:

lol

Why Am I So Tired posted:

Also, this is a big one - "COVID is airborne" isn't mentioned in it anywhere from what I can tell and that should be one of the major points. "COVID is airborne and travels through the air and lingers like smoke" is accurate and a very effective way for people to understand the situation. So many people outside of the thread really don't understand this.

LentThem posted:

https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/long-covid-rylee-joyce-august-9-2023

It's a good thing kids almost never catch COVID or we'd be hosed- wait...they what?!?

quote:

The RECOVER project is in the phase of collecting data and will soon begin analyzing it to try to find potential commonalities in cases and trends, Stevens said.

A long-term study like this will not produce answers for several years, but Dee Joyce is thankful the data she helped collect will go to help others.

"It’s sad. It’s taken a lot away for us for sure," Dee said. “[RECOVER] gave me hope that we’re being heard and that they’re putting the pieces together."

quote:

More than 2.5 years after the National Institutes of Health received a $1 billion mandate from Congress to study and treat long Covid, the agency has finally launched clinical trials for the often-debilitating condition. But both scientists who study long Covid and patients who have struggled with it say the trials are unlikely to deliver meaningful treatments, suggesting the federal government’s landmark Covid research effort may have been wasted.

Millions of Americans have suffered symptoms ranging from debilitating fatigue to heart issues, some still sick after initial coronavirus infections in the pandemic’s first wave. Congress provided the NIH with $1.15 billion to help patients in December 2020 — and the agency has now spent most of that funding, according to a detailed new budget breakdown shared with MuckRock and STAT, with the majority going towards observational research rather than clinical trials.

Among the trials announced so far, the NIH’s long Covid initiative, called RECOVER, is studying only a handful of pharmaceutical treatments, along with several behavioral options. These treatments will not address the underlying biological issues of long Covid, say scientists and patient advocates who reviewed the newly public details about the studies.

Scientists also expressed concerns about how the RECOVER studies will measure the way the treatments affect patients. Without study designs that account for unique long Covid symptoms, such as delayed fatigue after exertion, the trials may miss positive impacts — or harmful side effects — of the treatments. Potential errors in the trials could have been avoided through transparency and better engagement with patients, experts and advocates say.

“Nobody in the patient community or the research community thinks this is going to be sufficient to solve the problem,” said Charlie McCone, a long Covid advocate and patient representative for RECOVER. “And there’s been no indication that there will be funding for further trials.”

(...)

This funding “has been largely wasted,” said David Putrino, director of rehabilitation innovation at Mount Sinai and a clinician studying long Covid. RECOVER’s research findings so far, such as a paper about common symptoms published in May 2023, have not added new insights to the field, he said. Instead, the agency is following an “old rulebook of biological discovery” that may take decades to identify novel treatments.

(...)

One reason for the lack of promising treatments among RECOVER’s trials is the initiative’s overall failure to learn from past research in other chronic diseases that share symptoms with long Covid, said Todd Davenport, a professor and rehabilitation expert at University of the Pacific. Davenport has studied myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), a condition that is now a common diagnosis for long Covid patients.

Scientists on the RECOVER team “have parachuted into post-infectious illness and are now trying these things for the first time, to them,” Davenport said. “But it’s clear they haven’t done the reading.”

Davenport and other scientists outside of RECOVER have long lists of drugs that they’d like to test, most of which are not included in the NIH study.

Pyrolocutus posted:

Well this is ominous.

https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1691876356307693709

Pingui posted:

Platystemon posted:

Babe, wake up. The mirror universe’s ivermectin has revealed itself.

Exposure to lung-migrating helminth protects against murine SARS-CoV-2 infection through macrophage-dependent T cell activation

In short, of mice are infected with this curly bugger, they fight off SARS‑CoV‑2 more effectively.



Will one U.S. public health failure cancel out another? Probably not.

NeonPunk posted:

Ooooh poo poo lmao egg hasn't even got the chance to really spread their wings and we already have a super scary variant that is now being seeded across the globe? Even the WHO just immediately added it as variant under monitoring.

https://twitter.com/vipintukur/status/1692001606185656490

This is probably why this is gonna be a big deal lol

salient posted:

the epidemiology prof teaching my infectious disease outbreak investigation class just sent an announcement that she has contracted the novel coronavirus but hopes to be teaching our first class in person on monday

Poppers posted:

It’s definitely a cost benefit thing which is unfortunate but a real part of healthcare. Hospitals are already one of the most insane garbage generating entities in all of modern society and there is at least some conceptual merit to reducing waste

quote:

Kizilbash is an associate professor in Internal Medicine and the Medical Director at The Texas Center for Infectious Disease or TCID.

She says the Elastomeric North 7700 Respirator is Hypoallergenic and made 100 percent of silicon and the center has 130 of these masks being routinely used.

TCID is organized under the Texas Department of State Health Services under the public health division. The hospital specializes in treating tuberculosis patients.

Dr. Kizilbash says the Elastomeric is highly effective against airborne diseases such as Tuberculosis. She says the center has used them since 1996 and not once did an employee test positive for TB.

(...)

As for the cost, she says it’s significant. For 170 employees, Kizilbash says the disposable N95 masks costs the center more than 44 thousand dollars a year. The Reusable Elastomeric masks cost just over two thousand dollars and only needs a filter change once a year.

“These masks can be used for years if you take care of them.”

hailthefish posted:

I mean, that presumes each staff member is issued exactly one which they take care of and don't lose or break. And the number of loving papr hoods and positioning slings that end up in trash cans instead of getting reprocessed makes me less sanguine about the potential cost savings.


for context: I worked in hospital materials management from 2021 until a few months ago

NeonPunk posted:

Speaking of reporting data, just check out that pop up on the WHO dashboard lol

https://covid19.who.int/

Rosalind posted:

The plot thickens somewhat:

My email was titled "COVID Wastewater surveillance data request" but ok.

nexous posted:

the appropriate program is the recycle bin

Rosalind posted:

This has certainly given me the idea for a publication making data requests of all 50 states and assessing their responsiveness. It will, of course, be incredibly and universally bad. But academic publications like that do get attention.

I structured my entire dissertation around reproducible science using publicly available data so I have a very personal loathing for hiding data. I think it's pretty much one of the most reprehensible things a public health department can do. If they are worried about the public misinterpreting the data, then it's their job as a health department to produce effective messaging explaining and contextualizing the data, not hiding it from public view.

Hellequin posted:

ME/CFS Pt. 1

Hellequin posted:

ME/CFS Pt. 2

Hellequin posted:

ME/CFS Pt. 3

Baddog posted:

I tried to help someone in Colorado get it through a pharmacist when "test to treat" (right there in the grocery store next to the bread) was the big thing. The pharmacist wanted them to go get the whole panel of liver and kidney function tests first. Which, fair enough. But they needed a doctor to get that ordered (and more days). They just gave up.

Probably works ok if you have a copy of recent labwork.

Sunny Side Up posted:

anyone watching or registered to comment for the HICPAC meeting going on right now?

pandemic organizing group registered some people

it's been going on a while but public comment started like 20 mins ago

live video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjC26DGr38

zoom: https://cdc.zoomgov.com/j/1615322622?pwd=T1Vnci9IQVF6YS9nQzBzTTlTZTQzZz09

CDC Poised To Weaken Masking, Infection Control
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2023/08/21/cdc-poised-to-weaken-masking-infection-control/?sh=69ea390e2517

edit: submit your written comments after the fact to hicpac@cdc.gov

Buffer posted:

I think Leonardi put it something like “Ebola is airborne and absolutely dumpsters the immune system but it’s not airborne AIDS either.”

Anthony Leonardi posted:

If someone gets an Ebola infection, their blood is a T cell graveyard. It's a site of cremation. It's just chaos, it's insane. But we don't call Ebola 'airborne HIV' or 'airborne AIDS.'

biceps crimes posted:

why tf are there 500 posts in here since I looked last night? is there a covid wave or somethin?

Bastard Tetris posted:

I’ve made literal millions of dollars combating a global pandemic

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Real Mean Queen posted:

You've got people out there talking about strains of covid and how this one makes your eyes dry but this other one makes them sweaty and it just sounds exactly like somebody being difficult at a dispensary

Gunshow Poophole posted:

You are correct, they are locations (the number) and the substitution/mutation (the first letter is the original amino, the second one is the new one)



the outer ring here has all the codes, the inner three are combinations of DNA/RNA sequences to produce them



oh and their full names

Al! posted:

honey we gotta come up with more for the party tray than just guac

Pablo Nergigante posted:

StratGoatCom posted:

https://twitter.com/wkbn/status/1694461472800133203

Gotta live your life.

DickParasite posted:

For anyone not following the SAD thread about Boba Pearl's avatar doxing:

It turns out Boba Pearl was previously permabanned user Turtlicious.

quote:

Abstract
The question of whether SARS-CoV-2 is mainly transmitted by droplets or aerosols has been highly controversial. We sought to explain this controversy through a historical analysis of transmission research in other diseases. For most of human history, the dominant paradigm was that many diseases were carried by the air, often over long distances and in a phantasmagorical way. This miasmatic paradigm was challenged in the mid to late 19th century with the rise of germ theory, and as diseases such as cholera, puerperal fever, and malaria were found to actually transmit in other ways. Motivated by his views on the importance of contact/droplet infection, and the resistance he encountered from the remaining influence of miasma theory, prominent public health official Charles Chapin in 1910 helped initiate a successful paradigm shift, deeming airborne transmission most unlikely. This new paradigm became dominant. However, the lack of understanding of aerosols led to systematic errors in the interpretation of research evidence on transmission pathways. For the next five decades, airborne transmission was considered of negligible or minor importance for all major respiratory diseases, until a demonstration of airborne transmission of tuberculosis (which had been mistakenly thought to be transmitted by droplets) in 1962. The contact/droplet paradigm remained dominant, and only a few diseases were widely accepted as airborne before COVID-19: those that were clearly transmitted to people not in the same room. The acceleration of interdisciplinary research inspired by the COVID-19 pandemic has shown that airborne transmission is a major mode of transmission for this disease, and is likely to be significant for many respiratory infectious diseases.

Practical Implications
Since the early 20th century, there has been resistance to accept that diseases transmit through the air, which was particularly damaging during the COVID-19 pandemic. A key reason for this resistance lies in the history of the scientific understanding of disease transmission: Transmission through the air was thought dominant during most of human history, but the pendulum swung too far in the early 20th century. For decades, no important disease was thought to be airborne. By clarifying this history and the errors rooted in it that still persist, we hope to facilitate progress in this field in the future.

Pingui posted:

Homeless Friend posted:

wtf chickenpox is airborne? gotta be droplet/airborne dichotomy im assumin

The CDC posted:

Transmission

Varicella is highly contagious. The virus can be spread from person to person by direct contact, inhalation of aerosols from vesicular fluid of skin lesions of acute varicella or zoster, and possibly through infected respiratory secretions that also may be aerosolized. A person with varicella is considered contagious beginning one to two days before rash onset until all the chickenpox lesions have crusted. Vaccinated people may develop lesions that do not crust. These people are considered contagious until no new lesions have appeared for 24 hours.

Rated PG-34 posted:

except you’re not guaranteed to get Covid but you are guaranteed the vaccine with the mandates. never mind the disingenuous public messaging that the vaccines are perfectly safe

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The Oldest Man posted:

Fungal Fun Facts: I don't remember where I read it, but the original designer of the board game Twilight Imperium contracted a fungal infection in his lungs because he wanted to save money with the printer to punch out and separate all the proof sheets for first edition, so he was sitting in a warehouse eight hours a day punching cardboard for like three weeks and inhaled enough paper dust that he got blastomycosis

quote:

Blasto is an infection caused by the fungus Blastomyces.

Blasto is not spread from person to person.

Blasto is treatable with antifungal medications.

People who are sick and are concerned about Blasto should visit their doctor.

Mola Yam posted:

Dick Zout for Harambe

Platystemon posted:

COVID response confounds SARS expert

Aug 24, 2023

quote:

“Long COVID syndrome occurs in at least 10 per cent of every infectious episode and may be as much as 30 per cent. Stop and think about that: if you get COVID twice a year, that’s a 20-60 per cent chance that you’re going to get long COVID. And the next year, it’s now 40-120 per cent.

fosborb posted:

when did Pillow Pants start working for BNO News?

nexous posted:

So I got my MRI, had to take off my Vflex and they had no surgical so I raw dogged it. Then apparently they messed up my IV so they injected the contrast into not a vein and it burned like the dickens. I mashed the alert button but the MRI tech said that was normal and it took me 5 minutes to convince them it was not normal because I’ve had it before. They went and asked the radiologist and all of a sudden there’s several new unmasked people in the room telling me to sign some document and that this happens sometimes just ice it down when you get home. They re-IV the other arm and complete the MRI and glad to get out of the maskless hellhole.

NeonPunk posted:

https://twitter.com/yunlong_cao/status/1697318198033658090

biceps crimes posted:

welcome to neurotically opening and closing windows throughout the day