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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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The Voice of Labor posted:

I notice missing from the op is how pat from achewood would approach covid

Etsy mask banging pots and pans -> vaccine -> showing up at school board meetings to demand a return to normal

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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fosborb posted:

people seemed very interested in having a covid thread in the goon doctor forum and I was surprised they didn't know it already had one

Yeah that wasn't sincere

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Gunshow Poophole posted:

I made an iraqi beet stew with chicken kubbeh this week and have rarely been more powerful



That is extremely cool lookin

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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eXXon posted:

NYT asks "How Bad Is a Second (or Third or Fourth) Case of Covid?"

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/17/well/live/covid-reinfection.html (note the live well; live your best life!)

The first loving sentence is complete garbage! gently caress you!!

Sure, but the second, third and fourth sentences are probably better because you build up immunity

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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jetz0r posted:

it's funny how the absolute worst people are always very concerned about mental health, but never about physical health. it's almost like there's some kind of pattern

Hard not to notice that the concern begins and ends where the concerned party is getting annoyed, too. It's not one of those problems that you work on or solve, it's just kinda "hey shut up."

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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My read with Wachter is that this stopped being practical and became ideological for him at some point. He’s like the old joke about how to survive a bear attack, you don’t need to outrun a bear, you just need to outrun your slowest camping buddy. Protected for him does not mean protected, it means more protected than the least protected person he can imagine. It doesn’t matter that his poo poo doesn’t work and it doesn’t matter that he knows that, because somebody else’s poo poo works even worse and he believes that this is graded on a curve. You can see this is a pretty popular mindset if you look at the booster numbers.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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eXXon posted:

https://twitter.com/scottlincicome/status/1693271300460962195

Food for thought about the unintended consequences of the very real lockdowns that must still be happening somewhere (in my imagination).

I've seen a few things like this and I just don't understand the premise. When I was selling food to people, I don't recall any occasions where getting to see a rich guy did anything for me. It's fairly likely that somebody was walking out thinking "wow those broke fucks sure can put food on a plate" at some point, but whether or not they did didn't seem to change much about anyone's situation. I have never made a rich friend while at target.

jetz0r posted:

i worked in concerts for 20 years, and show/tour cancellations are up by an absurd amount compared to pre-covid. it went from under 5% of shows being canceled, to 20-30% getting canceled. with the end of year shows getting closer to 50%.

the info on why shows get canceled has always been spotty, especially due to health reasons. but there's a big gap in the number of additional shows being canceled due to covid, and the number that admit that it's covid causing the cancellation.

Yeah I spent a lot of time around live music for a good percentage of my life, and I don't remember cancellations being very common at all. Somebody's lovely van breaking down or something, sure, but big acts cancelling this often definitely feels new.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Zerg Mans posted:

Whats the current cdc regs on boosters going into fall? Last one I got was the original bivalent.

There's supposed to be a new one coming out in the next month-ish, so probably wait for that

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Rosalind posted:

I was like 90% sure this was going to send me to anime catgirl porn but it's not--thank you!


Nebraska Wastewater Surveillance Reports:

https://files.catbox.moe/ge6wtu.pdf

https://files.catbox.moe/biaftv.pdf

Genuinely surprised they sent something back, and so quickly!

Having a little giggle about having omicron be its own color and then all these other colors for things that are also just omicron

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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lol everything you need to buy one of those masks is clearly written on the front of the mask, come on guys

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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States out east have too many counties

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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The Oldest Man posted:

I'd like to see some data on increased symptomatic negative rates themselves before deciding it's a real thing; it's not like we haven't seen fifty different mass delusions that this variant causes hives or that variant is milder that got started on social media and didn't pan out when studied later. Like, there aren't even an overwhelming number EG.5 cases in the mix that you should notice a variant-specific presentation relative to the soup of other variants going around right now.

You've got people out there talking about strains of covid and how this one makes your eyes dry but this other one makes them sweaty and it just sounds exactly like somebody being difficult at a dispensary

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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silicone thrills posted:

Last year when the bolt fire was going on just outside seattle and we had like insane 300ppm airquality readings and poo poo and ash fall - my mask turned brown from the air in about an hour and a half and meanwhile I saw so many people just like raw dogging that air.

You'd think mask wearing would be dead brained obvious when the literal air has ashes floating through it but this is america :d2a:

Some years before covid I was in a town near a forest fire and saw a dude skateboarding around with a takeout bag from subway and an elastomeric and thought to myself "well that guy's got today figured out"

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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bedpan posted:

if all viruses can potentially lead to longterm impacts then that means the requirement to going to work, school, and social engagements when sick is in fact bad and not good

Something I didn't enjoy about kitchen and retail work was the dynamic where if you called out sick, that was Bad because somebody had to cover your shift, but showing up and getting everybody else sick was some real team player poo poo

Learning more about how this stuff works has not made me like that dynamic more

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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lol sure, why not

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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SardonicTyrant posted:

What's the reason?

Wanted to

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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eXXon posted:

Does anyone find surgicals uncomfortable? I mean they leak out the sides and the nose bands don't seal as tightly as most (K)N95s so the only annoying thing for me (besides the "not working well" aspect) is that they're tighter to the lips than stiffer masks.

Definitely. Toward the beginning of things when I was in that awkward pre-real-mask phase, I was trying to do surgicals at work and it just sucked. They just sat right on my mouth and got real muggy. Not fun at all to work a flattop in, let alone trying to do dishes. Luckily for me there was roughly nobody ordering anything at that point, could have been much worse.

I felt mostly the same about the knwhatevers I tried, but I could at least tell those were doing something so it felt like a better trade. These days I'm doing elastomerics or auras depending on the situation, and they're no trouble at all.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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DominoKitten posted:

We are no longer in a pandemic, I say, as ten percent of my conference attendees fall ill and are disappeared.

Luv 2 send infectious people back home on various transportations!

lol it’s like when you see a band a few times over some years and you get to watch a song evolve. I see they dropped the flabby “okay that’s a lot of cases but” part so they can just go straight into the part about how the thing that doesn’t happen yet hasn’t happened yet. I miss when it was a little more improvisational, but you have to admit they’ve got their sound figured out and they’ve found their audience

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Tulip posted:

I still can't believe that there's a Dick Zoutman in this world. What a miracle we were blessed with.

You can't tell me the world isn't funny

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Tzen posted:

it's incredible how bad his response has been, incredible, entirely predictable, and cruel
https://twitter.com/luckytran/status/1699564589426360424seeing this clip today and i was just doing some of this


I hate this pobody's nerfect bullshit around masking. "There's this perfect person just off camera that wants me to do this, but folks, I'm just like you, I like to not wear a mask and I like to eat ice cream and I love my country, and if that's wrong I don't want to be right"

Like, bro, that guy you're folksily defying doesn't exist, and if he did he'd work for you. This isn't some cute little foible, you didn't sleep in half an hour on a Saturday or have a french fry, this is fairly important

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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rockear posted:

"Consider wearing a mask, especially in a crowded indoor setting"

I love this language. It always sounds to me like they're asking you to momentarily consider, in the abstract, the concept of mask wearing, before continuing normally with your day. As if engaging this thought process has its own protective qualities.

As far as I can tell that's exactly what it is. Pausing to feel bad for a second before doing the bad thing anyway is more than somebody else did, and that means you're not the worst person in the world. Liberalism is about incremental improvement, so you can do all the same things as the worst person in the world as long as you feel weird about it for a second, because that's better than what somebody else did.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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I believe Mexico also invented the nose mask a few years ago, and it looked pretty dumb then too

Paradoxish posted:

It's also not mild or endemic or "just the flu" and yet

There is something kind of funny about a new thing showing up and everyone just being all "no no no, that's that old thing, we already had that." Like a guy holding up a tablet and calling it a newspaper because it has the news on it, it's just sort of silly.

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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I was walking around last night and it seemed like every fourth or fifth person had a super hosed up cough. Normal!

Tzen posted:



mask wearing is mentioned in the final exchange but still lmao

And as always it's in that weird "if you see somebody wearing a mask, it's probably because they're all hosed up and sad" framing. You can't just not want to get covid on its own merits, there's got to be more to the story

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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I currently have covid BUT no I don’t because lol that’s so 2020 am I right

Anyway see you tomorrow

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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It's going to be so nice to have a normal Christmas instead of a locked down masked zoom Christmas like everyone has had for the last three years

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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I got to shake Le Guin's hand once. Nice lady. My girlfriend had stolen her dad's copy of I believe Left Hand so she could secretly get it signed for him, the whole situation was pretty adorable

puncturewound78 posted:

"read any other book series"

only names a song of ice and fire as an example, incorrectly too, lol. lmao.

but I agree. Read more, fuckers.

Dune was right there

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Pingui posted:

Another public health economics success story!

Yeah I mean can’t really blame them, those ideas all have at least one expert attached to them

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Yeah no poo poo. The place I always get boosters is a cute little mom and pop pharmacy and they just prop the door open, people line up outside, you do your paperwork while you're waiting and then they get you your shot and you leave, it's been an incredibly smooth and easy experience every time. You want the thing, they give it to you, it works. Getting money and god forbid insurance involved in this very simple system is not going to make anything better for any actual person that matters to me.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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icantfindaname posted:

I wonder how this compares to Clinton in the 1990s. I wasn't around but my understanding is he ran as mildly center-left in 1992, and then the rightward turn was explained away as triangulating towards the Republicans out of necessity. This time around it feels more like there's much more explicit memory-holing and in a year or two Biden will have always been a center-right figure, will have been elected in 2020 as a center-right figure, and all the articles about how he is the most progressive president since FDR will have been taken offline

Why bother? If you think the audience wants him to be center right, you can just say that, and if someone says that's bad you can hit them with the Well Actually list of legacy-defining progressive memos or whatever. The point is just to say whatever sounds good and it doesn't matter that nobody falls for it, it's just about getting the brand out there

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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U-DO Burger posted:

got a text from test2treat that they've shipped my tests and gave me a tracking number. I had already gotten the shipment a week ago, but hey it's the thought that counts I guess

They keep emailing me about how I've successfully signed up, and that's fine, I can use the encouragement, but I am wondering where those tests are at

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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euphronius posted:

didn’t they have 3 tiers in the initial roll out and everyone complained so they added like 6 sub tiers to tier 1

My favorite part of this was when somebody in charge of something in my state pressed the wrong button and accidentally sent out ten or fifteen thousand invites to people who were not yet eligible. This caused a serious moral crisis for many while I boogied down to the convention center to get in line

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Just had a coworker full-on forget a conversation we had five days ago. He didn't really believe that we had just talked about this so I forwarded him the whole thing, he seemed surprised and then he mentioned he just had covid and maybe that was related. I said that can do stuff to your brain, then he said "what are you gonna do, it's just like the flu now," and then sort of repeated that a few times

:rubby:

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Oh yeah I meant to say mine showed up today too but then something funnier happened. Still waiting on that tracking though

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Calde posted:

My family doctor is the opposite. Corsi cubes and air purifiers in every room of her office, wearing an Aura N95 properly, promising to prescribe us Paxlovid if our house gets caught again.

She was running through a bunch of diagnostic questions related to PEM and POTS and when she caught on that I'd already put my mother through the same questions in the past month, she gave me a weird look and said "You're better read on COVID than anyone else I know".

lol. lmao.

It's probably a pretty low bar

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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mooshiga posted:

it’s a trash fire. me and one of the hall monitors are the only staff out of ~250 who still mask. staff are quitting mid-year, staff are sick, kids are sick, kids aren’t engaged because they know most of what they’re supposed to be doing isn’t gonna matter in ten years. and like…….we already did this too. everybody already got sick. everybody already quit. it’s exactly the same as it was last year. and now this is just gonna be how every year is. living the dream! 👍

School was pretty bad when I was a kid, but I can't imagine what it's like now. We at least had classes that reliably had teachers in them, sometimes very good ones, and buses that would reliably take us to where the classes were. I don't understand how a kid in this situation is supposed to look around and think "yep, everyone is clearly taking this very seriously and I should too."

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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They're making jokes about the "you can't say somebody might have or have had covid" rule, because it is dumb

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Encountered some burning popcorn smoke, and now my mask smells terrible

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Indoor Dying posted:

This too, it is so bewildering how COVID always seems to be an exempt issue. "Yup we are going to brunch in a pandemic but we're going to that good place that stopped using plastic straws!"

I think it's an easy opinions vs hard opinions thing. You can think whatever you want about most topics and it won't have any bearing on what you're doing with yourself most days. You open up a news website and there's all the day's stories, and you can feel very strongly about as many of them as you like all day long while going through your normal routine. You can go to that concert and grandma's house and everywhere else no matter how you feel about any of them, it's great and super easy.

One of the things about covid is that there's a kaleidoscopic array of easy opinions you can have that still fully allow you to do whatever the gently caress you feel like, and then there's a very small range of hard opinions that mean you actually have to do stuff. Because we live in a marketplace of ideas where everyone is free to choose a fully customized set of personal truths, the ideas that involve forgoing stuff end up being pretty unpopular. There are a bunch of variations on "it's fine to get on a plane while you have covid," there's one that says it isn't, and that one involves inconvenience, so nobody's going to pick it.

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Tulip posted:

I've helped 3 people get paxlovid and had...not sure how many others go "no thanks, don't need it" but definitely more than 3.

It's a fascinating little thing since the stereotype of Americans is that all they want for any medical problem is just a pill, with the joke being that lots of medical issues can't be dealt with with a straightforward medication regime, and this is probably the single best example I can think of where a very straightforward, easily acquired medication makes a huge difference in your life, and people are still going 'ehhhh no thanks I'll just suffer.'

I think it's not so much that we want a pill, it's that we want an easy answer. Taking a pill is still doing something, you go to a website, there may be a side effect, it's not much but it's not nothing. Another option is to just decide you don't need the pill, and then you can do gently caress all. That's easier, so most of the time that's probably what's going to happen. It's also well supported, as there are millions of people who will go out of their way to tell you that you don't need scary big pharma to treat a disease which does not exist or is mild or can be cured by putting garlic in your pockets.

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

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Jizzny Princess posted:

Found out some of my relatives caught Covid from their recent cruise they returned from. They plan to go to the local Olive Garden or AppleBee's tomorrow while still positive and don't understand why I don't want to go and meet up with them.

Yeah, I totally want to risk my already weak immune system to eat badly made pasta.

What you don't want to hear all the cool stories from the cruise? Think of all the pictures of food you're missing out on before you do anything hasty here

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