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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Not fancy responding to this?

I’m not even sure what one would respond other than ‘haha good one’ or as the internet people say these days ‘🤣🤣🤣🤣 looking into it’

I mean it was a decent joke but I wouldn’t bet the house on it (🤣)

Is there some JUICY GOSSIP I’m not aware of here or something

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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
When I have kids, any of this nonsense from the school about branded water bottles are whatever is going to send me into fits. I hate hate hate this sort of petty loving nonsense and am already fantasising about shouting at the hypothetical headmaster and board of governors

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Necrothatcher posted:

Dumb question incoming: I have to do an entry form before travelling to a country, with the official advice saying it must be done "up to three days before entry".

Does "up to three days before" mean the time limit to complete is three days before entry, or does it mean we can only complete it in the three days before entry?

I think the latter, my girlfriend the former.

The latter but to be honest they usually just hand them out on the plane. I’ve filled one of these out in the airport at the other end before passport control because of lack of pens on the plane so I’d not worry about it. It’s definitely not gonna be at least 3 days before as your gf says though, unless it’s totally different to any other country I’ve ever had to do it for. Going anywhere nice?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Climate change sucks but 28C is the perfect temperature so in many ways this is great news for me personally. It does make 5 a side an extremely sweaty affair mind.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

History Comes Inside! posted:

Honestly even 20 is pushing it, but I fully accept that’s my own problem as I live in shorts and a t-shirt 365 days a year, so when it gets particularly spicy I’m already out of layers to remove while remaining compliant with local laws and common decency.

I’m sort of the opposite. I hate wearing clothes but also cannot stand being cold so have to spend a lot of time too clothed. Summer comes round and I can whip out the vest and shorts. After a few beers even the vest isn’t necessary in some circumstances. I’m a SADboi so I attribute this to vitamin D deficiency rather than misplaced vanity or loutishness

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
This is really emblematic of the whole problem with, well, everything. What else do they expect people to do? Simply piss themselves? Do they think people piss in public because it’s good fun?

E: she’s a poo poo but I’m really enjoying Kay Burley’s escalating annoyance with the useless shites Labour puts in front of her to prevaricate on whether children should be crushed to death

Jakabite fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Sep 6, 2023

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Eh, what’s wrong with wild swimming? It helps differentiate between swimming in a pool and going in a lake or outside body of water, which are quite different activities. Plus, wild swimming rules and pool swimming is boring

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

There's nothing wrong with swimming in a lake, but there's a lot wrong with dumping 5000 gallons of human effluent in a river and then claiming that it couldn't possibly be you who did that because you weren't even near the lake/river at the time.

Wild swimming in country lakes is fine. Giving 22 year olds 43°C fevers that cause their kidneys to shut down and land them on permanent dialysis because of the typhus in your poo poo arse feces water is not.

Is wild swimming becoming a synonym for the latter? Because if so I retract my previous statement about enjoying wild swimming

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

There is something grievously wrong with a people who live on an island and are afraid of going in the sea.

I would agree but it is very cold. I pretend to enjoy it but I’m not sure if I really do.

DC what’s your opinion of the term ‘fell running’?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Cauliflower cheese is AMAZING if done right. Gooey, extremely loving cheesy, with a hard, brunt top. There should be a certain springiness to the upper layer of cheese too which becomes a sort of boiling cream as you go down. Though the main point is lots of strong, mature cheese, and not too much cream. Like mostly cheese with cream just to ease things along a bit. I’ve been meaning to try it with bechamel actually.

Sweet potatoes on a roast is weird but I do absolutely love the things so okay.

Red cabbage is good if done right (if it’s tangy and pickled) but is defo a pub thing.

Mash has always been a thing, as well as roasties, in my family. Not too smooth but not lumpy. Goldilocks poo poo.

Carrots: awful steamed or boiled, good roasted. Likewise parsnips but turn awful into ‘decent’ and ‘good’ into ‘amazing’.

Brocolli: pretty much always good. One of only two green things that belong on a roast, but also absolutely essential.

Sprouts: divine however you cook them but roasted in halves they go the gently caress off. Easy to gently caress gently caress up this way but if you can get it juuuust right my lord. Only good thing about winter.

Peas/runner beans/cabbage/swede/turnip: awful poo poo for people who DO NOT deserve any respect. PEA EATERS ESPECIALLY. Don’t get me wrong I like all these things other than swede and turnip in other circumstances but if I see them on my roast plate I’m going to conspicuously not eat them.

Turkey? Ham??? Neither of these meats are roast suitable. The roast meats are: beef, lamb, pork, and chicken. Ham is served over here in pubs and it just looks so wrong… look at it, shimmering at you with its pink wetness. No, ham, you go back with the egg and chips and between bread where you belong. Or if you must be included on the day, you can become a hock and be eaten before anything else.

Turkey’s like chicken but not as nice and I don’t know why we eat it.

Mint is the best sauce. Don’t let anyone tell you jelly is an acceptable substitute or it only goes with lamb. It goes with everything.

I think that’s about it for my Roast Opinions. As you can tell I’m quite passionate about my roasts.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I’ve never had a good home made stuffing, to the point Paxo is my fave. Always too drat wet and there’s often SOME crunch but not enough by miles. If anyone has a good recipe please let me know.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
He’s cute, he can stay at mine ‘til this all blows over if he likes :biglips:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

smellmycheese posted:

Have some terminal loving cringe with your roast spuds and stuffing…:

https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1699739370457096306?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

Well he’s definitely an absolute loving Keir isn’t he

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I once met one of my mum’s direct reports at the bar of an orgy once. Strangest post-coital chat I’ve ever had.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Just Another Lurker posted:

:what: That didn't translate.


There’s nothing to translate. I met someone at a swingers party, got talking about careers after we’d done the deed and it turned out my mum was her boss. It was extremely odd and funny. She sent me a pic of a works zoom meeting a week later. We didn’t talk again after that. Bit too close to home

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Just Another Lurker posted:

You just translated it, because i had no loving idea what your original post meant. :tipshat:

Ah, no problemo friend!

Christ what the gently caress is that ‘poem’. Aside from everything else, ‘she solved all our problems no matter how hard’???? I can’t think of a single problem she solved for myself or anybody else I know or have heard of. I can’t wrap my head around how someone, even a devoted royalist, could write that with a straight face. Absolutely lunacy.

Jakabite fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Sep 8, 2023

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

WhatEvil posted:

Nah. Peas are good (peas are good, he's Ebeneezer Goode). You just have to load them up with butter and salt.

Peas are good in the right context and ‘near gravy’ isn’t one of them imo. Butter and salt or mushed up with fish and chips though, very nice indeed

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I’d be grabbing a fake beard and some glasses asap tbh

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Can we please not become the US though, where people aren’t allowed to have their dogs off leash anywhere but a ‘dog park’ whatever that is

oh no a Labrador came and sniffed me how will I survive

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I get that but it’s just not that big a deal really is it. The vast majority of the people in the UK are dog people and I’m glad we haven’t kowtowed to the minority who aren’t by making people leash dogs at all times. A dog occasionally coming to check you out is part of public life here.

I just worry every time there’s a moral panic that we’ll go the way of the US. I’d hate that for the dogs, owners, and me, who loves it when a dog comes and says hello

E: this wasn’t in reply to you HDS, hadn’t seen your post. That’s a hell of a run of bad luck.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

ah yes, the minority of people who have issues with dogs because of past incidents should just go gently caress themselves

What’s your alternative suggestion? I’m sorry if my extremely tame, literally never nipped or growled at anyone in her life, 8 year old Labrador coming up to give you a sniff scares you, genuinely, but that’s life. Sometimes you’ll have to go through things you don’t love because society can’t be expected to adapt to every single fear people have.

Make people who are scared of dogs walk round in big cages like an armoured zorb is what I’m really saying

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

uh keep your dog on a lead? it’s not exactly a hard alternative to come up with

thinking that your freedom to let your dog roam is more important than other peoples’ freedoms to not have panic attacks is really making you sound like a Tory

Knew that was coming. No, sorry, my dog’s happiness at being able to run around in the park is more important to me than that, particularly if they’re going to act like a oval office about it like you do about almost everything.

E: particularly given that in my lifetime of dog ownership this has never happened. I’m sure it does but the fact you want all dogs leashed because an extreme minority are scared of them is beyond ridiculous.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

lol wanting people who might have PTSD because of a previous dog attack to feel safe is “acting like a oval office”, got it got it

You’re one of those people who also want to ban fireworks and balloons aren’t you.

E: My PTSD is triggered by the police, which actually should be banned.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

JoylessJester posted:

I've never run anyone over while drink driving, so I should be allowed to do it and if that scares you that's your problem.

A dog in a park = drunk driving :rolleyes:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

I think it’s unreasonable to ask all dog owners to only walk on lead all the time, but it’s also pretty lovely as a dog owner to not understand that some people are poo poo scared of dogs.

If you’re a dog owner, train your dog not to approach random people and don’t let them off lead when there’s loads of people about

If you’re fearful of dogs or have PTSD, maybe don’t hang around in the parks that people walk their dogs off lead in

This is my take summed up more calmly than if JC hadn’t blustered in being an aggro prick as usual.

My dog has good recall, and if someone doesn’t look like they want to be approached they won’t be. A lot of people do in fact want to be approached though :woof:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Aphex- posted:

And this is the flipside of things. People need to be more aware that they should be asking the dog owner if they can come up and pet them first, rather than automatically going OOH DOGGY COME HERE!!

My partner did this while we were out day drinking once. German shepherd nipped them and put a small hole in their hand. We reassured the owner and the dog it was fine and then got a bus to the hospital. Oh how we laughed

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

Almost as if there's an entire sub-forum for people to talk about dogs & other pets.

So to at least try & take the thread away from what will end up being an 18 page, 3 day long diversion where everyone talks past everyone else,

Spoil sport!!!

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Lord Ludikrous posted:

From earlier in this thread.





In short I let my dog do whatever the gently caress it wants and gently caress everyone else, and if you disagree I’ll call you a oval office.

Congrats, you are also a oval office. I didn’t say a dog should be able to do whatever the gently caress it wants and jump up on people, did I? I said go over and give them a bit of a sniff. If a massive fear of dogs to the point you can’t tolerate one calmly approaching you was a common thing, then sure. But there are very few people who suffer with that, and I don’t think every dog in the country should no longer be allowed to run about enjoying themselves in a park with other dogs and people who enjoy their company because of that extreme minority.

Like, I know a couple of people who are poo poo scared of cats but I notice none of the ‘leash all dogs at all times’ people have said a thing about the people who let their cats out and about.

For the record I agree with microchipping and licenses and your dog having good recall and such, but no dog or owner or indeed situation is perfect and if it’s genuinely going to gently caress up your day if a dog comes and sniffs you in a park, I’d suggest the parks known for being dog walking spots (oi oi) might not be a great place to hang out, in the same way I don’t spend a great deal of time in central London at night because cops scare the poo poo out of me.

And people can gently caress off making this into an ableist thing - plenty of ND people love dogs and plenty of NT people really don’t. A fear of dogs isn’t a mental illness.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I support leashing dog owners to their dogs, particularly around strangers. Some people shouldn't be allowed outside at all unless they're leashed to a cute dog

I agree for my own sake though Lexi would likely not thank me for this as she very much enjoys laying down and doing nothing after and sometimes during her walks.

E: ^^^ Bobby put it far better than I ever could and I’d like to see you respond to their post. Also your username is extremely appropriate.

Jakabite fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Sep 12, 2023

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Well society is a bit of give and take so it’s entirely possible for both of us to go about our day with reasonable adjustment - the dog can be on a lead and I will not approach the dog.

Maybe it is unfair to require well behaved dogs to be leashed as well, but there are too many irresponsible owners who would simply not bother to comply with any “reasonable time/place”. Case in point I was in Elan Valley in Wales a year ago or so, and there was clear signage everywhere saying that due to attacks on sheep, local wildlife and damage to biodiversity from visitors dogs they regret that while in the valley all dogs must be on a lead at all times. Probably only 1 in 4 dogs were actually on a lead, and those dogs did seem to be well behaved and I’m sure the owners felt it wasn’t necessary, but I imagine the owners of the dogs that did step out of line felt the same way.

It’s like how a lot of old houses and heritage sites used to allow photography but no flashes because of the damage the flashes would do. Now these same places just don’t allow photography at all because too many people weren’t complying with the no flash rule.

The majority of gun owners use their weapons responsibly, why should all of them be restricted because of the actions of a tiny minority?

The majority of drivers use their vehicles in a responsible manner, why should there be speed and other restrictions based on the actions of a tiny minority?

Same thing. Although I don’t quite get people who get attached to firearms in the same way they do as a pet.

There have been numerous times I’ve had a dog approach me just to check me out that has ended up with its muddy paws all over me, with an owner going all “tee hee sorry he’s just being friendly.” Or for a more extreme example, one instance where a dog came up to investigate me while
I was off my bike waiting for the dog and owners to pass, didn’t look aggressive or anything with an owner giving the usual “don’t worry he’s just being friendly” speech. Said dog promptly started jumping on me and biting at my face; luckily the very panicked owner pulled it off and got it back on a lead while apologising profusely.

The point is no one is saying (outside of potential breed specific stuff) that people can’t have dogs, it’s just society is a bit of give and take and if it’s in a public place please keep the dog on a lead. I would have thought the lead is a more comfortable solution than a muzzle as some have suggested.

Frankly the argument about neurodiversity is a bit of a red herring; the fact is as a dog owner you know your dog, you know it’s temperament, you know what it’s likely and not likely to do. A stranger does not.

For what it’s worth I think it swings both ways, people should not be going up to pet unknown dogs without the owners clear consent, and parents shouldn’t be encouraging their kids to do so either.

I would love to see you try and exercise a healthy, active, young dog without taking it off the lead. Likewise id like to see you try and keep a dog who needs that happy while depriving it of that. You can’t. It’s impossible.

A dog licence or some such is a fair bit of give and take. Never allowing dogs to have a good run about in the country/park and socialise is absolutely not.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Yes admittedly it is a bit weak but I mentioned it because there are a lot of similarities in the way gun enthusiasts in the US reject any suggestion of restrictions despite the negative effect on society - they’re responsible and enjoy it so why should there be any restrictions?

It’s like the car enthusiasts we have over here, they’re responsible car owners, why should there be restrictions on where they can go with their car or how fast they do it?

It’s very individualistic and whether it’s people getting shot, run over or dealing with fumes, or being bitten or torn apart in the street - oh well, it’s a tiny minority and they’ll just have to deal.

You were talking about being sniffed not being torn apart you muppet. If you’re terrified of being ripped to shreds every time a typically friendly breed that doesn’t appear to be in any way aggressive approaches you, that’s a you problem in the same way people with a fear of cars or other parts of public life kind of need to work on it or stay away from where they might be exposed to their fear. Your irrational fear isn’t something that the whole of society should have to adapt to, sorry about it.

And again, I agree dogs shouldn’t be jumping up and getting nippy, but if you’re this vexed by a dog merely approaching you that’s on you bud.

Also lol at the far thing, you do know we have speed limits and the vast majority of people who like cars are fully in favour of them? The world has things in it that can under the wrong circumstances be dangerous and scary, and that doesn’t mean we should be rid of them and try to minimise danger/fear at the cost of all else.

Your posts, for example, cause me psychic harm but I don’t ask for you to be banned do I?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Lord Ludikrous posted:

What’s a typically friendly breed? Enthusiasts of every breed including the XL Bully all sing their praises about how friendly and wonderful they are. That dog seemed perfectly fine before it tried to bite my face off, but I guess it was my fault for not doing enough research into dog breeds. As it happens I don’t get too worried when a dog approaches me because I managed to avoid suffering any real injury in previous attacks/near attacks, I do however get very, very nervous when it won’t leave me alone and the owner clearly in no hurry to keep their dog under control. I am however capable of taking other people’s thoughts and feelings into consideration and know others might not be so lucky and support leashing on that basis.

Let me put a question to you; if your dog was approaching someone who was clearly frightened (I.e retreating or recoiling) would you attempt to recall or tell the person that it’s part of life and they had to deal with it. If you did opt to recall, what would you do if your dog didn’t respond?

You know those things didn’t always exist don’t you? Speed limits were introduced because people were driving beyond the safe limits of their vehicle and ability. Low emissions zones were introduced to reduce the damage local populations were suffering from fumes. All these were and in some cases continue to be fiercely opposed by people who’s view is that any restriction on their freedom to do whatever they want with their car is unreasonable because they’re a responsible person - just like your view regarding dogs. Honestly if you replaced dogs with cars the discourse in this thread would be right at home at Pistonheads.

If I posted in such a manner and used offensive language would reasonably be expected to cause offence to other posters then yes I would be probated or banned. Once again, reasonable adjustment.

It’s not literally everyone else though, it’s solely those who are determined not to leash their dog. Anecdotal I know but in my experience the overwhelming majority of dogs I see out and about are on leads, so clearly a large subset of owners is fine with the concept.

That’s not what’s happening though is it? People who dislike dogs aren’t walking up to dogs and their owners saying “I don’t feel safe you need to leave the area.” Dogs are approaching people unprompted, and there seems to be a group of owners who don’t see this as a problem and in fact said people should deal with it, even though they’re clearly uncomfortable.

Don’t be obtuse, you know what constitutes a known dangerous breed and a typically friendly breed.

If that happened I’d obviously be recalling my dog pretty drat fast and if for some reason she decided she still liked the smell of your boots I’d run over and leash her and apologise profusely, obviously. What did you expect me to say? ‘I’d laugh and tell them to stop being a baby!’?

It is literally everyone else. People who don’t have an irrational and extreme fear of dogs tend to either not mind dogs running about in appropriate places like parks and beaches, or actively like it. Most dogs have leashes because most dogs you see will be in the street, not in a place where it’s appropriate and safe for them to be unleashed.

Again I’d like to ask what you suggest the owner of a young, active dog with high exercise requirements do if they’re required never to be able to sprint about a field after a ball? You’re literally advocating the banning of ‘fetch’ for all dogs whose owners don’t live somewhere with acres of land lol

E: ^^^love to have so little experience of the outdoors I can’t recognise the difference between a bull mastiff and a golden retriever in temperament and expected behaviour

E2: I’ll stop now because this isn’t going anywhere. I’m off to take Lexi for a walk in the field and I’m going to throw her ball for her off leash until she’s good and tired. I think it basically comes down to ‘should society bend over backwards to make sure nobody, no matter how unusual their fear is, is ever uncomfortable ever or not?’

Jakabite fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Sep 12, 2023

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Clyde Radcliffe posted:

They'll likely gently caress up the definition of 'disposable' and the companies involved will find a workaround. Like keep the form factor roughly similar but allow liquid refills, making it technically reusable, but still to be thrown away when the battery/coil dies.

Kind of like how flavoured cigarettes are banned in the UK, but even before the ban was enforced the tobacco companies had legal workarounds ready to go.

Yeah I could see that happening tbf.

With flavoured cigs though it did kind of work. You can get the straights that you put a (menthol) filter in but they’re a gently caress on and I only know one person who uses them, or you can smoke rollies. You can’t get menthol cigs ready to smoke anymore (unless you go to the right shops and ask specifically with a wink). It briefly stopped me smoking anyway, and I’m now trying to quit again after going to play 5 a side and literally throwing up outside the cage after 15 minutes. Lifting weights and smoking cigs does not a healthy cardiovascular system make, it turns out.

E:^^^ my dog is lovable and friendly but still likes to chase her ball across a field or just have a bit of zoomies

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

thebardyspoon posted:

I mean, to be honest, not actually knowing you in real life, yeah? You literally said in another post "oh it's not that big a deal really is it?" which is actually the sort of language somebody who wants to minimise somebodies phobias/trauma/whatever would use, like textbook.

Fair, that was a bit poo poo of me. Though I don’t think everyone who gets lovely and weird about a dog sniffing their foot has some deep seated trauma reason for it. Some people are just kind of babies about things that really aren’t a big deal. Like those people who get genuinely angry at kids who play their phones out loud on public transport or really, really hate street fundraisers to the point of wishing death on them. Personally I can’t imagine being affected by such a small thing (again outside of the people who’ve been attacked by dogs/children on buses/street fundraisers) and find it a bit daft and pathetic.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Given your reaction and usage of “oval office” against anyone suggesting putting dogs on a lead, yeah that was pretty much what I expected you to do.

If you go back and re-read my posts you will say I mentioned I wouldn’t expect it in a park. I am referring to being in public, which I would take to mean in heavily populated areas with lots of people, such as streets, high streets etc.

Again you’re looking at this through the lens of a dog lover; I have plenty of experience with the outdoors but would struggle to identify dogs outside the most popular breeds. I couldn’t tell you what attacked me other than it had white blotchy fur and a very angular face/about.

But you’re right; we are just arguing past each other at this point so I’m happy to leave it. I do hope you enjoy your walk together while the good weather lasts.

Ah yes, if someone is attacked it’s the victims fault. I’m glad that the thread has reached that conclusion.

God we really have been arguing past each other cos in general I’d agree, dogs on leashes in busy streets and such.

I was using the big C because of how people approached it - JC particularly has a rep for this sort of thing and you didn’t help by coming in accusing people of just being selfish awful people who don’t care about anyone else.

Anyway, thanks, and I hope you have a nice day as well. Sadly in Manchester the weather has roundly failed to last and is back to chucking it down

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Clyde Radcliffe posted:

I was thinking more along the lines of how they replaced menthol cigs with 'ice' or 'cool' as a flavour stored inside a breakable capsule in the filter, so that technically "they were unflavoured when we sold them".

Nah you can’t get them anymore either, they were the ones I liked best. The humble Sterling Dual is dual in name only now

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Chubby Henparty posted:

My son is over the moon, King poo poo of gently caress Mountain because mum finally bought him a small bottle of PRIME. Like this is the status symbol that apparently all 8 year olds aspire to. His friends are apparently counting down the days till they turn 18 and can Legally Buy the energy drink version.

It's £3 for some cherry cordial.

It’s loving gross too

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Oh god that’s so sad :( he was a great guy and I’m so so sorry for your loss, and that of all who knew him well. RIP goon fudge man, you’ll be missed.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

It makes me so mad that we seem to constantly lose the best and kindest of us and cunts like this linger on forever, with their heads attached to their shoulders and nary a care in the world.

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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I only post when I know it’ll poo poo up the thread. Quality, well-thought out posting is anathema to the Jakabite philosophy.

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