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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

Belichick should retire if the Pats don't make a wildcard. His drafting and free agency work has been a disaster the last half decade. He's about to reach the tipping point where his coaching acumen no longer makes up for his poor GM work.

Bill isn’t gonna stop coaching until he breaks Shula’s record or drops dead.

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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

"Rodgers Pushes for Coaching Changes During Bye"

“Report: Rodgers disgruntled by Jets woes”

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:

:stare:

Can't be, you mean year 3 right? Right??

It’s year 3 in SoFi Stadium, but don’t forget the years at that little soccer stadium. Their last game in San Diego was New Years Day 2017.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Black Lighter posted:

Also pandemic time means 2017 is simultaneously three years ago and thirty

:hmmyes: 2020 alone counts as like 17 normal years

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

fsif posted:

Manning was 35 and Montana was 37. Rodgers is about to be 40 and was coming off of his worst season.

And nevermind what a weirdly curated list that is in the first place, heh.

FWIW, Manning and Montana were more injury concerns than anything. Peyton had the neck issues that cost him 2011 and doubts about how he’d play/hold up when he did come back, Montana had various injuries that cost him all of 1991 and then all but the last half of the last game of 1992 (Plus his injury history back to the mid-80s). Brady and Favre to the Jets didn’t have significant injury history, and even then Favre got hurt like mid-season with the Jets but just wouldn’t break his streak, and then came back playing amazing with the Vikings.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Forrest on Fire posted:

When was the last time the Chicago Bears, a 100+ year old organization, fired a coach midseason

Never. They’ve also never fired a coach who got less than two full seasons, but this is his second year.

Of course, if any of the crazy rumors flying around prove true…

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Lol it is September. Denver's a trainwreck but we already knew that and it's year 1. Also the offense is showing signs of life despite a weathered line and blatantly mediocre receiving corps, which is why Payton was hired in the first place.

Giving up the most points in a game since the days of the Gemini program will put a bit of heat on anyone.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Benne posted:

My only question about firing Eberflus midseason is, uh ... is there anyone in the building to replace him?

It's not like Getsy has earned a promotion, they don't even have a DC right now, and nobody else on the staff has previous HC experience, which is what cowardly owners usually value when they have to go to an interim (remember this is the McCaskeys we're talking about). I guess the special teams coordinator can keep the lights on for a few months?

They have Les Steckel's son Luke on their staff. Make him the coach.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

mcmagic posted:

The Bears might really get the no 1 and no 2 picks lol

The Bears once had the 3rd and 4th overall picks, and selected Dick Butkus and Gale Sayers. They never made the playoffs.

No QB the Bears draft will ever be good and their offense will always be bad.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Codependent Poster posted:

Do the Bears have any retired player that's working in broadcasting they can hire to be the Tank Commander in the glorious tradition of Jeff Saturday?

They'll bring back Ditka again

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
There was also the question of how much credit Bieniemy was due since he was working with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, although both were very vocal in supporting him and saying he should have gotten a chance to be a head coach. If Washington's offense and/or Sam Howell make consistent noise over the course of the season, that'll probably be a big boost for him for potential openings next season. Hell, depending on how the season plays out, he could potentially replace Rivera.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

His article also currently says "Canada also earned a masters degree in “running an NFL offense” from University of Phoenix" which :laffo:

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

a neat cape posted:

Even if it's a race thing, I still wonder why guys like Vance Joseph, Demeco Ryan's, Robert Saleh, and Anthony Lynn got jobs before Bienemy

There has been some talk in the past about the racial issue particularly with the offensive side of the ball. Joseph, Ryans, and Saleh were all defensive coordinators before being head coaches. There aren’t a lot of minority offensive coordinators, and the only one I can think of from recent memory who got head coaching chances was Hue Jackson.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Dexo posted:

Especially considering that loving Nagy of all people got one.

I posted this back in the offseason thread and I’ll repost it here since it’s relevant.

TLDR: He has a better resume than Nagy or Pederson when they got hired:

fartknocker posted:

It looks even worse when you look at Doug Pederson and Matt Nagy's resumes when they got hired as head coaches compared to Bieniemy's. Pederson had been the Chiefs OC for Andy Reid's first 3 seasons, where the team was good but not great and mainly had Alex Smith checking down all the time. Nagy was the OC for just a single season, 2017, where Alex Smith had a better year throwing to Tyreek Hill and Mahomes was sitting on the bench. They were OC for a combined 4 seasons, while Bieniemy was the OC for 5 seasons and still can't get a head coaching job and limited interviews, and that's even after Reid and Mahomes and other players have publicly endorsed him basically anytime the subject comes up (Hell, I remember Adrian Peterson speaking highly of him as a coach way back when he was the RB coach in Minnesota, which was the first time he got a little bit of attention in the coaching ranks). And all of that is before you get to guys from other teams who got head coaching jobs with far, far lesser resumes.

Yeah, he's been working for an all-time great coach, and he's had a QB that's already on the short list of greatest to ever play, which some people use to try and minimize Bieniemy's success and impact, but that's a lovely argument as both that coach and QB (And others in the franchise) have said Bieniemy's been a big part of what they've done the last 5~ years.

So yeah, racism has to be a major part of it up to this point.

I can almost guarantee if Washington's offense is any good this year, he'll get some very public interview requests next year. If they suck out loud, I also suspect he'll get way too much blame even though they've been bad for years, and there will be some talking head rear end in a top hat like Coherd who uses that as a "See! I told you he wasn't good!" gotcha moment.

The “he’s an rear end in a top hat!” argument barely holds when, as previously mentioned, you look at basically every Belichick assistant who’ve gotten chances, among various others.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Ya Josh McDaniels coached them

:aaaaa: huge if true

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Other highlights of the 2020 draft included a very drunk Roger Goodell from his basement, Kliff Kingsbury from his house/porn set, Dave Gettleman just being Dave Gettleman, and an assortment of other pets popping up.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

rare Magic card l00k posted:

the virtual draft was more fun than the in-person draft has ever been aside from the brady quinn/ted ginn year

The next year in Cleveland had the moment where the Browns fan dressed as Macho Man took over the stage and was just strutting around posing and poo poo.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Kraft can’t fire Bill because if he does, Bill will release the Hog Tape

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

this feels like fodder for a photoshop thread

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
The Giants o-line has been bad for almost a decade (They started falling off after the second Super Bowl when guys started getting hurt) and the current group may not even be the worst iteration of it. The 2015-2016 teams were still trying to force Erick Flowers to be a standalone left tackle that he very clearly wasn’t, and frequently included guys like Marshall Newhouse and Bobby Hart.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Probably Magic posted:

this is a tim heidecker character evolution

Hahahahahaha



It’s free real estate :smugdog:

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Darth Brooks posted:

The extension was in the offseason, the news about it is just getting out now.

and then they win today against Buffalo :tinfoil:

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Mega64 posted:

Bears could do worse.

And they probably will.

The wind whispers the name of a former Bears player and assistant coach:

~Jeff Fisher~

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Febreeze posted:

Daboll isn't going anywhere till next year at minimum after this year they are probably gonna draft a QB, sit him behind Jones for a season, and then see what happens

I agree that Daboll is probably safe this year, barring some catastrophic meltdown that would require both on and off the field insanity.

For non-Giants fans, it's worth pointing out the last three coaches were all fired after 2 seasons or less (Judge and Shurmur got two seasons, McAdoo was fired during his second season), and I don't think ownership wants to extend that particular streak.

Benne posted:

They're not firing the guy who literally just delivered their first playoff win in like a decade. This isn't a serious conversation.

Also, everyone knew last year was a lot of smoke and mirrors early on, and they struggled down the stretch. It also doesn't help that this season has been hosed up since about 7 minutes into the first game, when Andrew Thomas got hurt, and it's snowballed from there in various ways, particularly on offense.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Ginger Beer Belly posted:

There wasn't anything Sean Payton could do on the field to get fired this year. He had at least a 2 year leash even prior to this game.

what if he kneeled during the anthem?

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Gorson posted:

Can we take a pause and remember how McDaniels was broken by his own players, news moves fast and I don't want to forget.

McDaniels was once again defected by the 2007 Giants defense.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Febreeze posted:

I thought Rivers just retired

Yeah, he retired. If he’d wanted to play in 2021, he would have still be the Colts QB.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Timby posted:

Despair and Deception, Love's ugly little twins
Came a-knocking on my door, I let them in
Darling, you're the punishment for all of my former sins
I let Love in, I let Love in...

Don’t tell me what Love can do

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Time has probably faded this a bit, but Bobby Petrino for how he left the Falcons.

To a lesser extent, Nick Saban and the Dolphins.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

SKULL.GIF posted:

If he leaves New England, Belichick is gonna go to a historically downtrodden franchise that already has talent on the roster. He's too old for a rebuild, he's trying to prove that he's a good coach without Brady and also wants that all-time wins record.

Chargers are a fit. Who else? Falcons?

Belichick back to Cleveland narratives come up every now and then.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Benne posted:

The actual content is just him breaking down film of 1940s Army games

This feels like it would also lead to Bill breaking down military campaigns and gently caress it, I’m here for it.

“Now watch as this run is stopped by the end, Lieutenant Smith, who later fought with distinction in the Hürtgen Forest. We now go to the town of Schmidt in October 1944…”


Lol that was quicker than expected

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

FizFashizzle posted:

Howard Griffith literally got the Falcons to the Super Bowl in 1998. Dude was amazing.

Huh? Griffith played for the Broncos against the Falcons in that Super Bowl…

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

SKULL.GIF posted:

They're finding ways to lose.

Yeah, that's been the Chargers for many, many years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAL5X3TRA2A

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

really queer Christmas posted:

So are we going with the Fall of the Reich or the Eleven Week Reich when he gets let go tomorrow?

There will be no Third Reich head coaching job

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Forrest on Fire posted:

The Night of Short Drives

:holymoley:

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

a neat cape posted:

I'm an Angels fan

At least the Ducks are better! Please enjoy Radko Gudas and Frank Vatrano.

epic bacon posted:

am i the lone dummy who thinks Belichick is still a brilliant coach of football. the last Super Bowl he won was one of the most egregious examples of a masterclass in shutting down a great offense. obviously he stinks as a GM but no one knows defense better than him

No, I tend to agree. He’s been a bad GM for the last decade~ and it’s coming back to destroy them now, but as a head coach, he was outstanding for a long time, although I’m not sure I’d call him still brilliant in 2023.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

a neat cape posted:

I think there is going to be a total front office house cleaning and think the new GM will want his own guy

Can we clean out the owners too? Let me run the team.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

a neat cape posted:

what if the chargers don't fire staley

He'll start next season on a nuclear fire hot seat and possibly be fired in October if they start badly.

Or, black comedy option, they go like 13-4 and then lose in the wild card round again and the front office doesn't know whether to keep him or not.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Ornery and Hornery posted:

Could Rivera succeed as a coordinator or something? Players do seem to love him.

Maybe? He was the Bears DC when they went to the Super Bowl in 2006, and then was the Chargers DC for a few years, including the previously mentioned 2010 team that allowed the fewest yards that year, before going to Carolina.

The thing here is that he's been a head coach ever since. I'm not sure he'd want to take a step back to being a coordinator. Plus, he can use the "I worked for Snyder and he hosed stuff up, I just never had the chance to get out of the holes he dug" excuse (Valid or not), and there may still be teams interested in him if he becomes available. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears made a run at him, since he'd hit the trifecta of being a former player (On the 1985 team to boot!) and coordinator for them.

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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Benne posted:

God drat he's not even gonna last as long as Urban and Hackett did

Who’d replace him as an interim? Jim Caldwell is on the staff, comedy option Dom Capers or Duce “Chrysanthemum” Staley…

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