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Docjowles posted:I think Saleh is pretty safe unless Rodgers just SUCKS, like final year Peyton level cooked. Wouldn't that be a point in favor of keeping Saleh? You can't really blame him for a QB being taken out behind the shed by Father Time.
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For a laugh look at Jordan Love's opening 6-7 weeks and compare that to Rodgers's.
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Benne posted:It's honestly a great bit that Nathaniel freakin Hackett is like the only coach Aaron has ever liked Rodgers also liked Alex Van Pelt who is now the Browns OC, and Tom Clements who returned as the Packers QB coach.
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Sep 5, 2023 18:37
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Pontius Pilate posted:Eh, they were trying to build the best team possible without completely mortgaging the future. Part of the charm of having an ~elite~ qb is that they can elevate the offense around them and you don’t have to spend tons of capital on that side of the ball, and he still enjoyed a good line for a lot of that time. The defense hasn’t panned out (yet) but Love was really the only move that wasn’t trying to take advantage of the Rodgers window What's amusing is looking at the current Packers and realizing that the past few years have actually been about giving Love maximum advantage while balancing out giving Rodgers as many tools as he could get to push for a Super Bowl without, as you said, mortgaging the future. The current roster has zero receiving targets with more than 2 years of experience (excepting Josiah Deguara, who's now a fullback). Despite that Love's inheriting an incredible pass-blocking line, a stacked RB room, and loads of potential at receiver/TE. Rodgers was justified in his beef with the Green Bay front office for not giving him more to work with, but at the same time, Green Bay -- a small-town team very reliant on revenue-sharing and sustained success -- was justified in perpetually planning for the future.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:That's not how the NFL works. ??? ????????? Sorry are you going to tell me that the NFL doesn't have revenue sharing??????????????? Or is this yet another dumbass loving comment from a dumbass loving poster???
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Sep 6, 2023 05:05
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Green Bay doesn't have a billionaire who can bankroll the team through lean years. They explicitly have something like $400 million stashed away in a reserve fund for this reason. It's been a while since I looked at the numbers but iirc the majority of the Packers' income comes from the revenue share. If the team starts sucking for an extended period of time the league won't hesitate to move the franchise, they won't care about all the cute little bylaws forbidding this.
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Sep 6, 2023 14:15
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Benne posted:COOL Oh boy...
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Sep 11, 2023 15:15
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From the NFC North thread: This man is mild. And I don't just mean his job status.
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Sep 13, 2023 19:43
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The Bears have a very late bye (Week 13) which probably helps to keep Eberflus safe until at least that time. If you're firing a coach midseason it's because they're either grossly incompetent (Hackett, Urban) or because you're concerned they might gently caress up the development of your players (Fields... leading into my next point). If you're firing Eberflus and installing someone else as head coach, you probably want to do it during the bye so the interim has extra time to acclimatize and prepare.
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Sep 21, 2023 14:54
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Bears are so bad that firing Eberflus feels pointless. You gotta change it from the top down. Everything
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Sep 24, 2023 22:51
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Sean Payton may possibly be a first-year candidate. The Broncos openly quit on him today.
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Sep 25, 2023 05:17
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crosspost from N/V:Harlock posted:Does your team suck? Will your head coach be escorted out of the building around midnight at the end of the regular season?
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Sep 29, 2023 18:51
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Phobeste posted:Was this article unearthed from a time capsule from july Yeah, I got that sense too, that it was written weeks ago and they sat on it to plug it into their release schedule when they saw a slow spot or something like that.
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Sep 30, 2023 16:25
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Roasted Donut posted:He's the perfect example of a coach that looks wonderful from the outside and to the national media but has been showing terrible cracks for years now to the local media and fans who watch this garbage up close week to week. Ah, the Mike McCarthy conundrum.
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Oct 6, 2023 14:23
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Benne posted:Kraft is 82 years old, does he want to sit through a long rebuild? I think the wacky bullshit is just getting started whenever Bill finally leaves. Does Kraft have any children who would inherit the team?
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Oct 8, 2023 22:21
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biceps crimes posted:Mike McCarthys moving on up. Not quite on the hot seat yet, but what the gently caress I dunno if getting blown out by the best team in football is a good reason to upgrade McCarthy.
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Oct 9, 2023 19:55
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It owns how the Rams traded for Stafford, immediately won a championship, and then all these other teams tried trading for their own franchise QB and ate poo poo. Copycatting doesn't work!!
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Oct 14, 2023 01:57
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Benne posted:I've seen enough, Arthur Smith sucks 
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Oct 15, 2023 21:04
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I still think it's weird Rich Bisaccia never got a look anywhere after being extremely well received as interim coach for the Raiders and getting promoted to assistant head coach after only one year with the Packers.
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Oct 17, 2023 03:13
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a neat cape posted:After next season. But he's only making 4m per year. I'm kind of surprised more players don't try to flex on their coaches given they make 10x the money.
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Oct 19, 2023 05:09
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:So…. When do we start talking about Matt LaFleur? Not until/unless the Packers get a new GM.
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Oct 23, 2023 02:11
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Rivera seems to alternate between having a very good year for his defense and outright sucking the next year, before repeating. ...... I'd still take him over Joe Barry.
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Oct 25, 2023 01:23
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Even if Murphy wasn't retiring, LaFleur doesn't go unless Gutekunst does.
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Not saying LaFleur will (or even should) be fired (yet), but here's an interesting article looking at the future records of coaches who go through terrible losing seasons: "Keeping the Coach Never Works Out". Very relevant to this thread where we decide if coaches suffering through bad losing seasons should be fired!quote:To try to answer that question, I looked at the history of the National Football League to find examples of coaches who are in similar situations to LaFleur. What I found was that in the Super Bowl era, only 14 coaches had five wins or fewer in Year 5 or later of a coaching stint and were retained — without having won a Super Bowl in a previous season. These are LaFleur’s comparables, at the least the ones who survived the (immediate) chopping block.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:26
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Shinji2015 posted:I think it's more that no one was expecting them to be this bad. Yep, we were expecting a rebuilding year where we'd see at least flashes of progress, not nearly the entire team looking lost and confused. The Week 2 Falcons and Week 3 Saints games were more or less how I expected the season would be going.
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Oct 31, 2023 23:09
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mcmagic posted:...having a team wide meltdown that forced them to bench him twice and .... Speaking of which, it seems like the Jets roster has been much more amenable towards Zach this year compared to last year. What's different? Simply the prospect of having Rodgers back at some point?
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Nov 1, 2023 00:05
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McDaniels being sacked this early honestly feels kinda anticlimactic. It is funny it happened on Halloween.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/11/05/raiders-josh-mcdaniels-firing-players-meeting-broke-head-coachquote:The calls from disgruntled Raiders fans for the franchise to part with head coach Josh McDaniels came to a head on Halloween. Owner Mark Davis made to decision to fire both McDaniels and general manager Dave Ziegler in a result that was still ultimately a slight surprise.
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Diva Cupcake posted:lol Arthur Smith has to be fired soon right? Unless the Falcons go on a loss streak he's not gonna be fired while they're 1 game back of the division title.
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Nov 6, 2023 19:52
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a neat cape posted:Fire Staley What'd he do now?
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Nov 7, 2023 05:25
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LaFleur won't be fired (this year) unless the Packers completely collapse in an extremely ugly way and he openly loses the locker room. The offense lost every single veteran it has except Aaron Jones, it's the youngest offense in the league by like a full year of average age.
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Nov 8, 2023 22:27
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Love is having a really weird season and I don't know we can accurately evaluate him until he puts together a full game, either good or bad. Obviously I'd hoped he would be better than this and the accuracy issues are incredibly concerning, but at the same time: Love ranks 30th in the NFL in first-half passing yards. In the second half, he ranks tied for second. He's tied for 30th in first-half passing touchdowns... and tied for first in second-half passing touchdowns.
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Nov 10, 2023 17:39
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It's really weird the Chargers have had now 3 consecutive head coaches who have all had the exact same problem of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. At some point you've got to look deeper into the organization.
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mcmagic posted:The Chargers should try to hire Bill. If he leaves New England, Belichick is gonna go to a historically downtrodden franchise that already has talent on the roster. He's too old for a rebuild, he's trying to prove that he's a good coach without Brady and also wants that all-time wins record. Chargers are a fit. Who else? Falcons?
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Nov 13, 2023 17:59
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I can't help but picture Gruden and Peyton yelling 10 word playcalls at an 11 year old. There's a gif somewhere of Brett Favre hollering at some teenage kid to throw the ball the right way and finishing with "GOD DAMNIT!"
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Nov 15, 2023 17:48
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I don't think it's complicated, it boils down to it's a lot more fun cheering for a team on an upwards trajectory than watching to see if they'll finally get over the hump this time around. It doesn't really matter too much if the hump is "more than 6 wins" or "the NFCCG", coming up short is exhausting in its own way compared to going further every time. Obviously no one's gonna have any sympathy for the perennial winners who can't get it done in the playoffs, and I'm not saying there should be sympathy for them. Just saying the fun/hype factor is a lot different when your team is going through not the playoffs -> playoffs -> winning playoff games compared to when you're going not the playoffs -> not the playoffs -> not the playoffs, or brutal playoff loss -> brutal playoff loss -> brutal playoff loss.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:46
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Chargers have now lost five games by 3 points or fewer this season: 34-36, 24-27, 17-20, 38-41, and 20-23. This is the inverse of the Steelers. They're finding ways to lose.
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a neat cape posted:Lol Staley melting down at the press conference What is he saying?
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fartknocker posted:Yeah, that's been the Chargers for many, many years. https://twitter.com/Keenan13Allen/status/1183752686383984640
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Forrest on Fire posted:The Night of Short Drives
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