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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Basebf555 posted:

It's pretty much the basis for his entire tax strategy. Slap your name on the front of a building/property, claim it has an extremely inflated value due to the cache of your "brand", then when you sell it for much less than the valuation, claim it as a loss on your taxes. Then you can use those so-called "losses" to avoid paying millions of dollars of taxes.

That doesn't really work on taxes, that's more about fooling the bank into giving you more loans.

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

William Bear posted:

I'm so sick of it. It makes me wonder if they have the same eyes as normal people.



Yeah, sure. Motherfucking Lanfear is a dude. Then how does she channel saidin? Huh, smart guy?

Like gender, magic is a construct

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

ex post facho posted:

ou mean give them back

Hey we paid $15 million for the whole west, we should probably get at least $5 million if we sell Texas and Arizona back.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

emfive posted:

I believe you PFC, we did the same thing when me moved to handle the triplets and fixed up the old house to a nicer state than it had been in when we lived there. Nice young people bought it.

Yeah we sold to a nice young couple and then it turned out it was their dad from out of state that was buying it, which, OK, cool, but then they flipped the place and made bank so, who knows?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Hatebag posted:

yeah art is a big way that rich people do all kinds of scams and money laundering because there's so much squishy money they can hide crimes all day. entertainment venues/theaters, bars/restaurants, record stores, etc can all be used to hide money pretty easily

Also any time they spend money it can be counted as a 'loss' which is offset against their income. Don't try this at home though, you'll be turbo-audited.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Should have built a flood barrier when they discovered computers

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Lpzie posted:

johm mccain is crashing jets into the ceiling of hell as we speak...

Unless Hell is like Homer and the donuts I don't think you get to do what you love in Hell

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

DesertIslandHermit posted:

Remember the weird Trump guys who harassed a butterfly reserve?

IIRC the butterfly reserve people were weird Trump guys even after he had part of their reserve bulldozed for no clear reason.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Hatebag posted:

france gave them a nuclear reactor but all of nato gave them bits and pieces they needed to manufacture nukes including the us letting a bunch of spies study under fermi, the germans providing plans to israeli spies, norway giving deuterium. britain and america providing additional information. basically jusy a bunch of nato countries leaving nuke blueprints around israeli spies and then conspicuously going to the bathroom saying "boy, i hope nobody takes pictures of my nuke plans while I'm making GBS threads!"

Also IIRC that's how they acquired the highly enriched uranium, they never managed to enrich their own.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Joementum posted:

pretty amazing how far Biden has pandered to bibi who has done nothing but despise him and Obama for their entire time in office

I don't recall Bibi hating on Biden very much. I thought he just really hated Obama; something must of colored Bibi's opinion of Obama and he was never able to get past it.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

emfive posted:

well genetic or not, it's hard to overstate the "risk averse" thing. Forever, and almost up to the present day (they're almost 26), walking into a store or restaurant with my kids means that they either have to be told to open the door, or else we open it, and then they walk in and immediately stop, like they're on a Star Trek away mission.

Dang that's wild. I walked out of the room once and a minute later when I came back my daughter was sitting on top of the bookshelf. She's 8 now and she literally climbs the walls for fun.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Haha he tells it like it is

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Spoondick posted:

the "trump will never go to jail" crew should consider just how lovely trump's lawyers are

I think because everyone knows that the rich and powerful must not suffer consequences for their actions, Trump just decided to cheap out on the attorneys since he's going to win anyway so why bother paying?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Asproigerosis posted:

Trump decamped to Mar-a-Lago after leaving the White House in January and has maintained the club as his official residence ever since, but some Palm Beach residents argued he is not allowed to do so under an agreement that stipulates club members cannot stay there for more than seven consecutive nights or 21 days per year.

Trump’s attorney at the time the 1993 agreement was signed said Trump was a member of the club and would not try to live there, but there is no language in the final agreement that explicitly states whether the real estate magnate could or could not legally reside there.

After conducting a legal review of the issue in March, Palm Beach town attorney John C. Randolph determined that Trump would be legally allowed to live at the club under the town’s zoning code as long as he’s considered an employee of the business, which Trump’s attorneys argued he is.

Hmm, if an employer provides housing to an employee it is considered taxable income *unless* the housing offered is only for the benefit of the employer. How much do you want to bet Trump doesn't pay taxes on that benefit?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

as far as the legal system goes, Trump is an extradimensional lovecraftian horror and our legal physics do not apply to him

Well duh, he's rich. The legal system cannot interact with them at all; it's something like this:

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Joementum posted:

it's going to be funny when trump dies and don jr tries to argue that mar-a-lago is actually worthless to get around inheritance tax

Other way around he'll argue it's worth 3 billion dollars and then write off the loss when he sells it because of the step-up basis effect.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Hey did they get that speaker thing sorted out yet?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

tenderjerk posted:

joe brandon abolish the air force immediately

He'll issue them letters of marque. Say hello to Sky Marshal Erik Prince!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

DrPossum posted:

What changed was no longer allowing children outside

Would you let your kids outside if it was overrun by giant metal death machines mowing down children like a thresher cuts wheat?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Agean90 posted:

Of course we have bases in Syria, Wagner group even attacked one for some stupid reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

Well it wasn't for a stupid reason, it was to control an oil field but nobody told them it was a US base. They thought they were going in to roll some rebels and whoops, US base.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

emfive posted:

They're called (interchangeably and randomly) either "Mafaldine" or "Reginette". They're named after a princess of the House of Savoy, Mafalda, who had long wavy hair. The House of Savoy (Sardegna-Piemonte) was the power that drove the Risorgimento that unified Italy in the 1860s, driving out the Austrians and severely containing the Papal influence on the peninsula. (The story of that is almost unbelievable; if CSPAM had been around during that process it would have been the most epic era of posting ever, and possibly the most epic era possible.)

Anyway Mafalda was like a Princess Dianna character in the early 20th century. Then her family married her off to a German titled rear end in a top hat who became a Nazi. She didn't like that at all so she ended up in a prison camp in like Romania or Hungary and got bombed by the Allies in the war.

That's my cheery pasta story for today. There's also a Sicilian bread called "Mafalde", it's a sausage of dough folded into a back-and-forth twist and covered with sesame seeds.

Ok grandpa we get it, you and your buddies betrayed democracy in exchange for nationalism.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

tenderjerk posted:

she shouldnt have scammed rich people out of money

She didn't even do that, some rich guy threw her some inside information as a favor because he liked her and she was punished for using it.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Ben Nerevarine posted:

*thinking very hard* … one BILLION 9/11s

Hello Mr. Yglesias

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

VideoKid posted:

he really seems just as bad as gym and I can’t figure out why the moderates are suddenly on board. I guess they just want to go home

The second mouse gets the worm

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Floor is lava posted:

Hope he gets a $20k fine for talking poo poo about Michael Cogen in this and that it keep doubling every time.

No, I think he's learned his lesson. We'll give him another chance.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
o7 to a real one, led the black ships to open up Japan to US trade. Without him, our Boston merchants would not have access to the markets of the east.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Not as weird as Paul Ryan's imaginary black son that tells him to cut food stamps and school lunch programs.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

quote:

Donald Trump was personally involved in the negotiations with Boeing when he was in the White House and threatened to cancel the contract. His administration ultimately signed a fixed-price agreement that leaves Boeing liable for any cost overruns.

The cost of the project is now thought to be well over $5 billion. When the government last replaced Air Force One during the George H.W. Bush administration, the bill was $660 million, or about $1.45 billion today, the LA Times previously reported.

Last year, Dave Calhoun, the CEO of Boeing, admitted that signing the contract was a mistake.

Trump... good?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

I guess when they are saying DTI they mean 'death to the IRS'

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

bebop esq posted:

I thought they were but I might be thinking of that scam "charity" Don Jr & Eric ran back in the day

Yeah at one point Eric ran a charity for kids with cancer that kept funneling money to various Trmp properties but I don't think that's under investigation at the moment because that sort of thing is completely legal as long as you fill out the proper disclosures.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Classicst3ve posted:

Nah, gently caress joe Biden he never hmgave me my 600 dollars

should've been born a middle-eastern settler state if you want bidenbucks

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

do farmers even need this poo poo anymore what’s the point

It was never the farmers; it was for factory owners who were too cheap to pay for lighting

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Bethamphetamine posted:

Yes. John Kelly fired this new butler/amateur military strategist after his serious gambling addiction posed a security threat. After Trump fired Kelly, Trump brought the butler right back.

He's not a butler he's more of a valet

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

ex post facho posted:

who is the vp in this scenario

Probably Kamala

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

love to speedrun the late Roman republic

Can't wait to see President Trump's proscription list

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

RealityWarCriminal posted:

trump as president was bigly into lead paint. there was once a round table with american manufacturers and he asked a paint manufacturer if the paint today was really as good as the lead paint of yore and was surprised the dude said it was better than lead paint

Also asbestos as well. Just really into the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Greg Legg posted:

we're watching How to Train Your Dragon.

I haven't seen a non-kid movie in about 3 years, I'm completely out of touch.

e:

We are watching 'Home' which I feel is good for a Thanksgiving movie, except for the part where the colonizers realize they've been huge jerks and try to make it up.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Great he's running for daimyo now

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Joementum posted:

a couple years ago someone played tifa porn during an italian senate zoom meeting

what is their username?

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

kaleedity posted:

every time there's a wild scotus decision i think about the poor saps that studied law for a profession lmao

It's kind of like working for one of those doomsday cults that keep missing prophesied doomsdays and having to invent increasingly elaborate reasons why you weren't wrong except you have to work 90 hours a week to do it and you get paid well.

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