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EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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I just blazed through all three seasons of Slow Horses last week, and it's extremely my thing.

I think Lamb's character is a bit overdone at times, but the rest works extremely well.
Especially the pop culture references because I won't believe for a second that people in UK intelligence aren't constantly making Le Carre references.

I also think Lowden would make a great James Bond, but then there would be a technical challenge: making him appear tall.
He looks short in Slow Horses and I also didn't get the impression from The Gold (also a decent watch!) that Lowden was very tall. And of course in Dunkirk you mostly only saw him in a cockpit

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EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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oops, all origin stories

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Casino Royale was the only movie that did it well, with Bond "earning" the Bond theme and saying "Bond, James Bond" at the end of the movie.

Since then, it's just been overdone. Just show me a run of the mill adventure from in medias res! Not everything has to be an origin story!
And on that note: Stop the reboots! Just cast a new actor and pretend nothing's changed! Going from Alec Baldwin to Harrison Ford didn't require a Jack Ryan reboot, so why have we had three reboots and origin stories since then, every time there's a new actor?

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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The thing I like most about Casino Royale is actually that it's about a pretty normal crime.
It's just a bit of insider trading and terror financing. No world ending virus, no earth quake lasers or satellites. Just a guy who needs/wants to give $100 million to a warlord.
The same thing was great about Quantum of Solace. It's just resource theft, a normal crime that takes place in the global south every day.
And it's not about Bond. They could have sent anyone.

But then they had to go back to the hostage the world poo poo because I guess showing capitalism to be bad doesn't actually fit with the ideology of the Bond series, and everything that ever happens is because there is some personal connection to Bond. The guy attracts terrorist attacks like nothing else by the time Skyfall's over.

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Looten Plunder posted:

https://youtu.be/WoRPIEtbcBM?si=C2S8tyqn0nowGNcX

Whilst I'm excited for this, I swear this is about the third show I've seen advertised in the last 12 months as starring"the world's greatest detective" where I have no idea who the character actually is.

Bring back Perry Mason!

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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I'm watching the latest season of For All Mankind and I kind of feel like they should end it sometime soon.
It's far from the innovation and quality of season 1
(and side reason that's not that relevant, it's causing people to believe in Elon Musk's lie that putting people on Mars is either easy, necessary or both)

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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PriorMarcus posted:

I have a deep dive The O.C. question for everyone...

I'm currently reading Welcome to The O.C by Alan Sepinwall, as a very formulative show for me so I'm intrigued by a decent retrospective of it. The book is great, except...

It's covering the end of Season Two, when Trey is shot dead by Marissa, and it's talking about the use of Imogen Heap's Hide and Seek in the scene. The book, and everyone in it, is talking about this scene like it was the perfect match of song and story, which the show HAD managed many times before, and how it's beloved.

But, correct me if I'm wrong, I remember the general opinion being that it was a loving stupid choice? I remember people thinking that the sudden blast of music into the scene was really comic and jarring, and I remember it being lampooned a lot and generally playing into the narrative that Season Two was rubbish.

Am I wrong? Do people actually like/did they actually like this song/scene combination at the time?

Are you listening to the Melinda Clarke and Rachel Bilson rewatch podcast as you watch it?
They have pretty much of the entire cast on at some point and some decent other guests (but obviously couldn't get Chris Pratt or Olivia Wilde)

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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PriorMarcus posted:

I am not. I'm just reading the book right now, but I'm planning to rewatch it after I've finished Cyberpunk 2077. So I'm probably pair it with the podcast then.

Have they finished the show, or?

Yeah, late last year I think

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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I think this is more a corporate rights fuckery thing than anything else

Babylon Berlin is a coproduction between a German broadcaster and Sky, who have streaming ambitions of their own. They have links to Paramount for European licensing of Paramount shows, so it might be that they also want things to work the other way and Babylon Berlin will end up on Paramount plus or another related service in the US.

Or maybe it actually is because no one wants to watch a fictional show about a country turning to nazism anymore when they can see the real thing happen now/soon, who knows

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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feedmyleg posted:

Yeah, I want to watch the show sometime based on all the praise, but every time I actually consider sitting down and watching it the whole experience just seems unpleasant.

Watch it

The praise is well deserved. I'm a historian of Western Europe in exactly this period (originally, in university, anyway) and it's the most real I've seen this period done both in terms of plot and in terms of look and feel

Season four might be a bit too much because it has a more prominent nazi presence.

What kind of ruined part of it for me isn't the subject matter, but the fact that the star of the show is now a part of an antivax movement that has links with German sovcits

Still, I'll keep watching it as long as they keep making it

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Jack Ryan is also a history professor, but only the Harrison Ford version, not the four others

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Bright Bart posted:

How do they explain how Ford knows his way around a standard issue weapon?

He was a marine who washed out with a back injury, I think

He's definitely played as now cerebral by Ford than the others, but how can't you, with Indiana Jones on the poster

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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IRQ posted:

Baldwin wasn't bad, that's true.

Matt Damon and the doofus from the office are just so bad, though.

lol I think you mean Ben Affleck?

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Its title is probably a Seinfeld quote, making it a bit hard to find

It may be better to use Google with the site:forums.somethingawful.com modifier and just search for Seinfeld

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Damian Lewis?

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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High Warlord Zog posted:

Source?

I'm surprised Prime doesn't make money. Their interface is set up to upsell the user on digital rentals, purchases and channel subscriptions. A lot of their big ticket shows are based on long running series of books. Surely the cash from a few tens of thousands of people buying one or more Reacher novels from Amazon, and maybe a Kindle to read them on or an audible subscription to listen to them, adds up.

I don't think those revenues would be assigned to prime, but rather to the store itself

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

I can’t really articulate it eloquently, but it just felt like a modern Indiana Jones movie.

Yes, it's absolutely this. It looked like a movie from the 2020s. A modern comic book movie, because that's the only type of "adventure" movie that gets made anymore. Cameras moving through vehicles and turning around, dropping through buildings etc. It was a huge coup when Last Crusade did the disappearing trick in the train scene in one shot in 1989. And that's a relatively static camera! Now doing poo poo like that is trivial and boring.

Dial of Destiny is an Avengers movie that happens to have Indiana Jones in it.

I know people love to compare especially Raiders to the older serials, but in terms of cinematography and visuals, it's basically Ben Hur, a film that's chronologically between it and those pulp serials. Wider, slower, more thoughtful shots than movies are now, and especially post 2010ish. Very little of that blink and you'll miss it action. The art of acting changed completely between 1959 and 1981, but that's not the issue here.

The next two movies updated the look a bit, but Spielberg was still Spielberg. The mine car chase in Temple comes closest to the Moroccan chase scene, but it's absolutely relaxing in comparison.

They should have just gotten someone much older to direct it, and someone else to write it, and probably an executive to shitcan the project the moment it came across his desk.

I did like the cgi 1944 Ford, though, even though he looked younger than in Last Crusade. They should just use that tech to keep making movies set in the 30s and 40s (written by competent people) once Ford is too old to protest

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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I think the whole weekly/dump debate also hinges on season length.

If we still had 26 season episodes like in 2008, dumping them all at once simply wouldn't be feasible. Not from a production point of view, but that's just too many to binge.

I feel like all the streaming platforms kind of settled on 10 eps being the maximum length for binging, and that will take most people at least two but likely three sessions.

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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DaveKap posted:

I love The Good Place and am enjoying that it's still a topic of discussion in this thread based off talking about Timothy Olyphant. I wanted to add that I had to rewatch the final scene of Season 1 over multiple times because it was so good and then did the same thing during the Season 2 opener montage because that was even better. I also had to pause the show during the trolley problem episode because I was laughing too hard to continue. I also wanted to mention that Timothy Olyphant was the titular Hitman in the Hitman movie and folks, including him, thought it was the end of his career. So if you think basing an opinion of the man off of Die Hard 4 is bad, imagine if that opinion came from watching Hitman.

They should try to make a Hitman movie again, but maybe this time one that doesn't suck.

It doesn't need the whole bullshit cloning backstory. Just make a Hitman branded version of The Killer with a bit more humor

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EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

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Open Source Idiom posted:

this new Jeff Daniels thing

Do you mean American Rust, that just had its second season drop? Or is there some other new thing with Jeff Daniels?

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