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I'm on episode 6 and I love the books and think this is pretty good. I do agree they should have explained the actual three body problem a bit more but hey ho. I also think it was a good idea to get stuck straight into book 2. I like this set of characters and I can see where it's all going from the book's perspective. Also Wade is loving great. edit: also the inclusion of kids on Judgment Day was a good decision. I can't remember if they had kids and families from the book but that's what gave it much more impact for me in this, pretty loving horrible. Shows the kind of extremely hard and brutal decisions needed to fight the Trisolarans.
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I finished it. Not many people seem to be arsed about it, but I really hope it gets a second season.
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Mar 22, 2024 01:10
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In the books it's p clear that the cultural revolution stuff was bad and they have moved on from it.
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Mar 22, 2024 18:11
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If you think the sophons are nuts then let's just hope they get to do a season or two more so we can get to the actual crazy poo poo. Reflecting on it a bit more today, I really did not like Auggie's character. The other actors did a pretty good job, not sure about her. Also answer your loving phone, people.
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Mar 23, 2024 02:04
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One thing they missed is the comedy of the people in the game panicking and screaming "DEHYDRATE!"
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Mar 23, 2024 09:37
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Phenotype posted:Starting on episode 4 right now. This is pretty good so far, but I'm a little disappointed with the video game. The titular Three Body Problem is just that there's no stable orbit for the aliens' planet? They could have just said that in a single sentence! The four "levels" were figuring out a.) they need to use science and b.) there are three suns and c.) they need to save the people and d.) the planet is never going to be safe for long. Like this is not a complicated scenario here, you didn't need to make a futuristic VR game for people to understand! You need to keep watching. I can't remember when this is resolved but the idea is that the people playing it sympathise with them and want to help them. It's a recruitment tool and also an initiation device to weed people out.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:43
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I really enjoyed them so each to their own. They are probably the best bits of the first book other than the stuff at Red Coast, especially the human computer
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Mar 23, 2024 16:02
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No mystery, the rest aren't plot holes either. Headset brain scans - ok so you have a snapshot of a human brain for the sophons to look at. How is this helpful? Nothing suggests the sophons are powerful enough to simulate a human mind. None of the people who wear the headsets at that time know anything particularly useful. The aliens are already able to access our computers and are able to send our tech to Trisolaris. That said, they can't read minds. They could be highly specialised headsets for imparting sensory information, that works one way. The show depicts how the sophons do the countdown, they knock into the right pattern of cones on your retina to spoof visual effects, not gently caress with your brain. How is loving with science and people directly actively deceptive? They are obscuring results and their actions but how is any of this lying? They call it the sophon lock, it's not concealed and is a brute force tool to achieve their goals. A lot of the way things go on earth is done by the ETO or whatever the show calls the traitors - they are human. They can lie. The number of posts like this in the thread makes me think that maybe the show doesn't do the best job explaining this stuff and is too rushed. As a book reader none of these things are a problem.
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Mar 24, 2024 13:05
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We are told in the series the VR headset has a brain computer interface. There is no reason to believe that it does more than feed you an experience, and read your desired inputs at an advanced level. How that is done doesn't necessarily imply reading a mind beyond that. We're explicitly told that they cannot read minds - therefore, the headset cannot read your mind. It isn't capable of doing so. You can think of reasons why that might be a limitation - one may be that they have zero concept of lying so would have no reason to implement such a thing. It's a central pillar of what is to come if they have another season that the human mind is sacrosanct and a place that the aliens can be successfully outmaneuvered. Another poster has addressed that this is much better dealt with in the books, I have no idea why they went with this in the show. In the books it's just a given, the thing doesn't read your mind and there isn't even a suggestion of it. It's just a really advanced VR headset. The sophons creating illusions is not lying? The aliens are physiologically incapable of lying, they have no concept of it because they broadcast their thoughts (not telepathically, mind) to those around them. They make a silly assumption that we work the same way. Yes, this is a plot contrivance. Is the sophons messing with the sky and other things a lie, though? No. It's an incredibly blatant and ostentatious display of power. How is that a lie? The trisolarans can withhold information, they can choose not to reveal a thing. They know they can also apply that to someone else. What they don't understand is that you can act in a certain way or say a certain thing but mean the opposite. That is the art of lying that they don't understand. As for not looking for other places to settle - this is explained later and if they do a decent job should be covered in Season 2.. It's okay not to like the show or the books, of course, but I think you do need to be able to try and meet this where it is at. This is not hard sci-fi.
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Mar 24, 2024 14:51
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Zero VGS posted:I mean if it presents itself as hard sci-fi and wants to reference quantum entanglement and stuff that seems like fair game to me. You can't transmit any information faster than light via quantum entanglement though. If it were a hard sci-fi that'd be evident. Most of the stuff that cribs off real science is a prop to do interesting things plot-wise, including dimensional folding and stuff.
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Mar 24, 2024 16:13
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Can you run Doom on it though?
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Mar 25, 2024 11:46
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I quite enjoyed Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson recently, it's hard enough sci-fi in most respects. Otherwise I'm at a bit of a loss. Inevitably people would say Expanse series but I think that isn't really that hard and gets less hard as the series goes on, plus I found the books pretty irritating.
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Mar 26, 2024 10:50
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Boris Galerkin posted:Yeah and they can't pass down generational knowledge so what's the loving point? That was my thought when they were introduced. Because they can basically time travel, just like Wade plans to. There's also something to be said of the fact that the plans they're intended to create are so massive in scale and consume so many resources that you cannot have more than a small number of them. The Wallfacers are the human reverse of the Sophons.
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Mar 26, 2024 13:43
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That's why it owns.
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Mar 26, 2024 14:30
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Yeah. Even in the conversation about Red Riding Hood, Mike Evans tells them this is why his group is so important, they are there to do these things for them or help them to learn. Either way they still abandon him after saying "We're afraid of you". I think it comes as a huge shock to them and they take a while before they start contacting ETO agents again.
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Mar 26, 2024 17:03
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NmareBfly posted:Stephen Baxter? The Manifold trilogy in particular, in which each book pokes a different solution to Fermi. Or Xeelee sequence, which has an even grander arc. Alistair Reynolds has some good stuff, House Of Suns I thought was super good and is standalone. Pushing ice. Also, interesting philosophical, science plus sci-fi book - Anathem by Neal Stephenson. Also not sure if this is hard scifi but it's close enough.
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I wonder how they are going to deal with the whole thing about everyone in the future being a sissy soyboy and all the men dress like women or whatever the gently caress weird poo poo Cixin Liu was going on about. Hopefully they ditch that as well.
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