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Ciaphas posted:i'm waiting to see what the multiplayer scene will be like, on a toxicity scale from "dota" to "DRG" Did you even get anything for winning in the first game? I vaguely remember a war campaign but I thought progress was just leveling and unlocking stratagems.
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I wanted to like it but I think I'll refund for now, basically crashing every time somebody tries to join my game.
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I think the discussion around the higher difficulties is kinda silly though - I think one of the LoL threads had a designer talk about how they never had to incentivize players to fight, because fighting is fun. I think Helldivers 1 turning every mission into a stealth mission was dumb as hell. Why would I want my starship troopers game to be about sneaking around and not wading through hordes of enemies? Just give people who can beat those difficulties their nerd cred but make the game more accessible for everybody else imo. I think it would be cooler if the harder missions had more complicated objectives that incentivized good time management instead.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:39
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ZeusCannon posted:I find it somewhat wild that people are arguing that some guns in a co-op game are too good. Gaming in 2024 has broken some brains. I think that's been a thing in every co-op gun game with loadouts? At least this was definitely the same discussion in Payday 2 and Warframe, and a bunch of other games. Now the ideal is EDF where there are good guns and bad guns but nobody complains too much because whether or not something is good is secondary to whether or something is funny.
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Feb 28, 2024 23:12
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Man I don't play a lot of bot missions cause every time I do I feel like I get destroyed. Cannon Turrets in bases, Stratagem Blockers, Eyes that call in endless dropships, these guys are hosed up.
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Mar 3, 2024 07:56
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How does the new railgun perform against Hulks and Tanks? I hope it kept the 2 hit headshot kill. Tanks and the big cannon turrets already felt super slow so if it takes more than 5 shots, it's just gonna feel awful. I always thought Chargers were manageable with the glitch - if they fix that then bugs will really become unmanageable, though flamethrower looks like it might be the new hot thing.
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Mar 6, 2024 19:18
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Why do I get kicked after doing 2/3 missions of a difficulty 8 op all the time? Is it just cause the missions are long and people are taking a break after two? I don't think I'm team killing or anything and we always succeed the first two missions?
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Mar 7, 2024 06:57
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What do people bring on the missions where you can only bring 3 stratagems? Just did an 8 with bots with increased call down time and one less stratagem and it was awful. I brought shield, orbital laser, and airstrike and just tried to stealth all the objectives. The eliminate enemies was the worst and we got the last 3 kills right as our last reinforcement was dropping in. Still cleared all the objectives so that counts as a win, but it didn't feel comfortable at all. I could probably forgo a shield but it seems like I have no way to survive without it.
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Mar 8, 2024 06:01
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Risky Bisquick posted:GL is a solid option regardless of difficulty. You can 3 hit chargers from the front if you can bounce the grenade underneath and up into the abdomen. This is gonna be another dumb PS5 difficulty thing isn't it - I swear chargers take way longer to kill sometimes with grenade launchers and flamethrowers.
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Mar 8, 2024 17:59
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Did some tower defense on 9 and yeah, it seems like it gets a lot harder if you don't split up and blitz a couple before things get crazy. The spawns do seem to let up eventually though, two times we had to kill like 8+ bile titans before being able to get the last silo.
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Mode 7 posted:
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Mar 13, 2024 13:33
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Seems like I get a lot of people abandoning the Terminid tower missions. Why even start if you're gonna bail at the first sign of trouble?
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LazyMaybe posted:diff 9 termicides are real rough. feel like I need to go flamethrower to clear many chargers+some crowd clear on bugs that get onto the tower, rover, 2 stratagems that're good against titans... The trick is to realize you don't actually need to kill things so much as get their attention away from the tower. If it's not too heavy its very possible to just kite enemies around the silo and get the clear. Throwing explosives at it seems to make it unstable in my experience, so it's best not to airstrike it too much. Get the attention of titans and make sure they don't spit on the silo and you're pretty much good. Melee enemies should be shot off if possible. Chargers just chase you around without doing anything (though they can lead to a death if they block your path). The most dangerous things are probably the bile mortars but they don't spawn in every map.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:47
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Exodee posted:This has some real Divinity: Original Sin 2 energy, which would be perfect for Helldivers 2 to be fair. These are the people who made magicka, flammable gas is very much in their original DNA.
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Mar 15, 2024 22:35
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Section Z posted:The more I use the slugger, the more it feels like people making a big deal about "But it stagger locks robots!!!" is coping with the fact we only need the stagger against chainsaw bots and devastators due to robots constantly warping 5-10 feet up and down over rocks and fencing I also cannot use the slugger because I miss a ton of shots against the little guys. I dunno if it's the movement or lag or what, but it's just too inconsistent for it to be usable for me.
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Mar 15, 2024 22:55
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Anybody else randomly get the bug where your weapon stops working and you can't do calldowns? Seems to happen if I get knocked off in the middle of a state where I have a gun unavailable - ex mid calldown or if I'm holding a package.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:45
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So today I threw an orbital laser at a bile titan and had him survive the entire thing. What's up with that? Was the laser just missing or something?
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Mar 16, 2024 05:53
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Yeah AMR is pretty drat good against bots with shield pack. Not as killy as AC but you can still deal with hulks and devastators pretty well. Since everybody is high on EATs I brought them against bugs on 9 and they were great when there's no bile spewers around but it kinda sucked when spewers were everywhere. I found myself missing my grenade launcher for wiping out packs of spewers. Increased call down time also made it sorta iffy against Biles and Chargers, you have to be pretty far from the action to be able to comfortably call one down. I did tag a few chargers with the call down itself which was sweet, but it often made them impossible to retrieve after since the corpse is usually surrounded by the horde. Also felt iffy against titans compared to the 500kg since it takes two shots to the mouth and running back for the second shot could be fairly dangerous. All in all, didn't feel great, but part of it might just be getting more practice with the weapon. My loadout was laser drone, eats, eagle airstrike, and 500kg.
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Tank towers are my bane on bot missions, what do people do against them? It seems like sometimes I can just turn a corner and get sniped. If I can get close to drop an airstrike I'm good, but I can't reliably get the two EAT shots to the back to kill before it starts turning. I see clips of people taking it out with the laser cannon or auto cannon but I don't seem fast enough.
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Apr 2, 2024 07:32
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Orbital Laser is up there for me as well, it might not be as efficient on longer missions but it's a very good oh poo poo button for a long while.
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Apr 4, 2024 23:03
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Are the game servers dying? Seems like the game is really choppy for me today and some loading screens seem to take forever. Also crashed after finishing my second mission so maybe it's just time to take a break.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Quasar only works if the situation is under control. When the situation is not in control you want EATs because someone will attack you while you're chargin the laser, and it flinches if it goes through the shield. This makes no sense to me and I love EATs. When poo poo isn't under control you're still stuck waiting for EATs to drop or your path to your last drop has been cut off by a patrol, or a bile Titan is spitting on your pod, or whack geometry has your EAT call down bounce to the wrong side of a cliff or you stuck a charger with the call down and he's taking the pod off to la la land or ... There are a host of potential issues with EATs being a deployable that don't exist with the Quasar. EATs are better sometimes and Quasars are better in others, but there are plenty of ways for a situation to get out of control with EATs.
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Apr 8, 2024 22:00
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Arc Hammer posted:Laser Cannon shines in cold environments where you can fire it for almost 6 seconds nonstop. I thought testing has shown that temperature doesn't affect how long you can fire a laser weapon, only how fast it cools down.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:06
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:I kind of wish they would make shrieker nests only killable with a hellbomb, it's kind of boring to just quasar them from a mile away. 
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Jerkface posted:Prioritize maps that have 1/3rd water so the POIs you do get are clustered together, I don't think land mass makes more POIs. You can very easily run 1s and have a leisurely stroll around the map and grab SC. It definitely makes a difference, it's very easy to see when you run an evac civilian mission on a small island map and there's only like 5-7 rare samples instead of the 30+ that you would normally have. I'm not sure if 1/3 water is the same as no water, but avoid water all around the edge maps if you're POI or sample hunting.
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Reiley posted:This medium outpost MUST be vanquished. Sometimes you drop onto double gunship towers and that's just the game.
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I would love to have a weapon with linear penetration through enemies.
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Ravenfood posted:Exploding mechs and keep the limited drop count but cut the cooldown quite a bit. Yeah it would be nice if orbital laser and mechs had their long cooldowns reduced - sometimes you can't even use up all the ammo because the cooldown is so long.
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Did the machine gun personal order on some solo 4s and goddamn I forgot how much that weapon sucks. Stationary slow reloads just feel unnecessary for the amount of fire power you are throwing down.
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Anybody else think robot gunships need to be toned down? It would be nice if they have a spawn limit or something. Starting a mission close to one or god forbid a pair of them seems like a near instant recipe for reinforcements.
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Away all Goats posted:Sounds like a team that was not pulling their weight shooting down gunships. They go down pretty fast as long as everyone has an appropriate weapon. Aim for the engines/thrusters. This is before anybody could call down their support weapons...
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Infidelicious posted:You can uh just shoot them down? Maybe you're just a lot better than me but I don't think the heavy antitank options fire fast enough to clear out all the gunships. RR especially because the reload will get you killed. I don't even know why you would bring heavy antitank against bots when medium penetration weapons kill pretty much everything they have. It would be the niche case where you really want to shot a tank turret straight on.
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:i dont know if its a glitch or intended, but the eagle upgrade adds an extra eagle airstrike bomb to the listed eagles. its pretty nuts Wait what? So I get a free eagle airstrike bomb in my clusters with the upgrade?
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Infidelicious posted:You are correct that AP5 is largely unnessicary vs. robots, and overall pretty inefficient vs. Gunships compared to AP4 weapons. The point with gunships has never been about being able to shoot one down - one gunship isn't a big deal at all with your standard anti bot weapons. My point is that gunships swarm builds up too fast - one person dedicated to a tower might be able to clean up but that implies that he's not missing, getting bounced by a rocket, distracted by patrols, etc. And unlike ground patrols, there is no stratagem panic button that resets the area. Ground patrols get wild, you can throw an airstrike or orbital laser. Gunship density gets wild and your team just gets to die a lot until you get far away enough to clean up the ones chasing you. I mean you guys can wave your big dicks around about how good you are at the game, but my personal opinion gunship towers are just a bit too much right now just like the evac missions.
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Wanna know what was the one thing you actually hit with a gun - I guess scythe doesn't track hits like the arc thrower? Also had some weird spawns today on Bugs, played some 7s that felt like 4s - barely any charger or titan spawns. Did winning the major order have a stealth nerf to enemies or something?
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Infinitum posted:Betting a tenner whatever stratagem ends up winning, the opposite enemy type will have a surge event. Sounds like even more reason to pick airburst to me.
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I think it makes sense from a monetary perspective - they'll probably get the most sales while the game is hot and the player count is high. If the content hose gets turned off, people will just take a break and come back after a big content update. This game doesn't have a truly long upgrade grind like Warframe or the Tide games had at release, which I think is a good thing, but it seems like they're leaning on periodic boosters to keep the income flowing.
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skasion posted:What’s the best way to deal with chargers on max difficulty? Antitank directly to face, accept no alternatives. Flamethrower is pretty fast as a host but otherwise takes too long. Taking out the butt takes too much ammo and takes a while for them to bleed out. Leg animation bug is doable but slow. Autocannon to leg joints is very finicky.
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I got ragdolled into the hole in a stalker nest. Interestingly I wasn't dead and shooting my grenade pistol destroyed the hole and the nest. The second one killed me, but it was interesting that I didn't die automatically.
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Cheap Shot posted:This has been confusing me since day one. I see so many people talking like the game is being/should be balanced for difficulty 9, and maintaining a “play on 9 or bust” mentality. The devs keep saying over and over they didn’t intend for this. Pleading for our understanding. Even going as far as to say they were horrified that people were beating and even soloing their hardest difficulty within the first week of launch. They’ve been clear that 9 was supposed to be a monumental challenge, like what static MMO raid groups take on. This is the only game I know where the majority of people don't consider the most extreme difficulty setting to be something reserved for masochists. 9 is two above 7 which is literally named “suicide” for fucks sakes. No one should be surprised when they keep adjusting things to push 9 further out of reach, but consistently seem to be regardless? I mean they probably will have to add additional difficulties at some point like Helldivers 1. I think the other part of it is just human psychology, you won't miss what you never had but you will miss something that gets taken away. 9 in Helldivers isn't even that hard in the grand scheme of things, it seems far easier than Damnation in Darktide. People want to progress and do the hardest content, if that content changes from a do it every day activity to a do it once to say you did activity, people will complain because it changed. That's all sort of normal.
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