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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




joepinetree posted:

especially with GWX3 Gold. Too bad it was a glitchy, unstable mess.

It was still the best SH3 experience. I just checked; the tracker is still up so I'm still seeding the GWX full install torrent.

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Owling Howl posted:

Basically I think the director flinched at making him look bad and blew up the fort to absolve him.

That'd be on the writer, but yeah, that was dumb. Show the guy jumping out, then follow the plane to the ground. You really shouldn't be telling the story of the Bloody 100th if you flinch at stuff like that.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




I will give Curtiss LeMay endless amounts of poo poo for a lot of things, but he flew the lead bomber on a lot of missions, and he deserves credit for (almost only) that.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

It’s only the last few years I’ve really learned a good deal about it. The book Neptune’s Inferno is an amazing read.

That's a terrific book, highly recommended.

The USN lost more killed in the Guadalcanal campaign than the USMC did. The Marines tend to gloss over that fact in their mythology of the campaign.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




There's also the political factor to consider. Before D-Day, the Western Allies weren't really a) doing the Germans much damage, and b) not taking many casualties. They had to do something to show that they weren't just letting the Soviets do the heavy lifting and shed all the blood. It's cold as gently caress, but that's coalition warfare for you. Conquering the East was Germany's primary strategic objective, so there was no chance of a separate peace, but Roosevelt and Churchill couldn't be sure of that.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




GolfHole posted:

I'm surprised that, in virtually no war media, have I ever seen an air crew land and proceed to smack around the ground crew for having screwed something up.

I simply do not believe that this scenario did not happen in war time. Instead I'm amazed that there has been some sort of treaty for ~100 years wherein everybody pretends there was infinite respect and no emotions ever run hot.

I've never seen anything on it in any secondary source or first-person account. This is likely due to the fact that the same ground crew will be servicing your plane before your next flight.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




twistedmentat posted:

I thought it was a neat detail that you saw the little candy and gum dispensers that USAAF crews had on the dashboard of one of the bombers in a shot.

It would be really cool to see some of these on-screen, but I don't expect it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtMte4yguZw

He's just so happy he finally got one of those.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




The only time in my life I have ever enjoyed licorice is vicariously through Steve1989 in this video.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




George H.W. oval office posted:

Wesgate is the only Brit that’s cool

Subaltern Wesgate is the best character in the show by a decent margin. Rosie will probably be the best of the aircrew characters, mostly on the strength of meeting him on the ground before we see him in the air next episode. His thread in this episode was really strong, the shrink gets credit for making the late night conversation real.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




There's a good chance you're waiting 25 years for a response.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Stegosnaurlax posted:

37mm is a hard drug to quit

The P-63 was really useful in Russian service. It had great performance under 10,000 feet, was a good ground attack plane, and could compete with the best fighters the Germans had. The US needed high-altitude bomber escorts and lots of them, adding a third type that couldn't do that was an unnecessary logistical complication.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpx2pcdmVIA

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Stegosnaurlax posted:

Everything i can find says they didn't get the p-63 until may of 1945, right as the war ended, and by the time they pivoted to the Japanese they only had a couple of dozen. With thousands sat in Alaska waiting to be delivered.

I've checked as well, thanks for the prompt, and it's super messy. It looks like some P-39 squadrons may have gotten the P-63 relatively early, but there's not a lot of solid documentation.

I suppose this is just a teachable moment that fan-made IL-2 dynamic campaign generators might not be reputable sources after all.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Arc Hammer posted:

Westgate does feel like an attempt to expand the depiction of the war beyond male soldiers since there's zero female speaking roles in Band of Brothers (unless you count screaming Dutch collaborators getting shaved or women riding Tom Hardy) and The Pacific's only has the rather limited Basilone romance and Leckie's awkward fling in Australia.

One of the biggest tragedies about this whole affair is that nobody has realized that a Captain Westgate Does SOE Things would be an extremely popular series and spun it off.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Okay, that had some real loving problems. I'll call out one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

The food relief drops in Holland. I have no problem with those being included. I have a huge loving problem with an exposition scene set on the airbase that those missions with the food relief missions visible from where they're loving standing. If they need food right over there, just don't take it off the loving truck. Drive it over!

Rosie's milk run was set up with all the classic tells of a last-minute tragedy. They even had some rando show up for his very first ever ride in an airplane. Some rear end in a top hat thinks he's super clever for "subverting" that trope. gently caress him. Putting the one person from the ground crew that had lines on that flight would have meant something and tied some things together. So many wasted chances for good storytelling.

Captain Westgate spinoff when?

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




D-Pad posted:

lmao you thought those were supposed to be the real drops taking place 100 yards behind them and not practice drops?! I will never get over how bad some goons are at watching TV.

Then they missed a golden opportunity to use the word "practicing". I'm watching this thing, not writing it.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

buddy they're in the uk. holland and the uk are not that close. that was also the one person from the ground crew with lines too.

I've been wrong before, and I'll do it again!

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Monica Bellucci posted:

They were poling punting.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Flikken posted:

That guys voice makes me want to shove him in a locker

Yeah, he's got good scripts but that's a perfect example of YouTuber voice. Closed captioning works though.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Oh, and the B-17s in the Berlin raid were dropping 100-lb bombs. 30 incendiary, 10 general purpose.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




A big part of the Red Army's success in 1944-45 was that they'd built up a strong leadership corps out of officers who'd survived 1941-1943. They had much more experience at large-scale combat than the Americans did. Montgomery had good experience with 8th Army, but the Soviets had officers with a year of two of successfully running army groups.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Burns posted:

Did any of you watch/listen to the hour by hour play of the World War Two channel's D-Day special? I would unironically love to see a sort of Longest Day 10 episode series of JUST that day. Focused as gently caress.

WW2 Week by Week did a bang-up job on D-Day. Strap in for 24 hours of coverage, 12:01am on the 6th to 12:00pm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0AKc7xxQQk

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Here's a relevant interview with one of the few remaining WW2 fighter pilots. Of particular relevance is the "flakhaus" where mostly bomber crews were sent for R&R,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng0hPejhBl8

I should be so lucky to be so coherent at 101.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




"Wages" and that Kursk video posted on the last page paint a really vivid picture of just how bad the Nazis were at running an economy. The video is ostensibly about the battle, but why each side had so many of what kind of tank is a really important part of looking at the event.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

Is there a definitive-type eastern front book/series? I was riveted when Dan Carlin put out the Ghosts of the Ostfront hardcore history series around 15 years ago and would like to do some more reading on it.

If you're willing to sit through stuff not about the Eastern Front, the WW2 channel YouTube has been doing the whole war, week by week with animated maps at divisional scale.

https://www.youtube.com/@WorldWarTwo

They also have some excellent companion series on the espionage wars, and War Against Humanity if you need a weekly dose of "never forget".

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Arc Hammer posted:

Peleliu was more of a grind than hectic. The assault on Tarawa was shorter but also way more chaotic. It's really hard to quantify what counts as hectic and what isn't because there's inherent chaos to combat, imo.

The fighting on New Guinea was pretty solidly awful throughout. I'll recommend Touched With Fire by Eric M. Bergerud for land combat in the Pacific Campaign. And if you want videos, Hypohystericalhistory's coverage is both excellent and extensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pToxEa30KdU

Fair warning, he's very detailed and makes massively long videos with good use of maps. That's more of a scheduling warning though, who doesn't want an hour and a half on the Kokoda Track campaign or three hours on Finschhafen?

Let's help get him over the 100k subscriber mark.

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Arc Hammer posted:

Tora Tora Tora has already been mentioned.

It sounds crazy when you hear the name "Roland Emmerich" involved but his movie about Midway is actually pretty damned good, and it also features a brief depiction of the Pearl Harbour attack. It isn't a perfect film by any stretch but it's much better than it has any right to be.

I actually hated the whole Pearl Harbor sequence in Midway. I thought they took bad ideas and executed them poorly. What they should have done was to cut from the little girl watching the explosions to the Enterprise coming in to port. That would have been a powerful take on it.

Tora Tora Tora is the poo poo, watch that. Here's the stunt scene mentioned earlier, they're lucky nobody died but goddamn if it's not a great shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_da33g5ac

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