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High Warlord Zog posted:I feel like the prostitution subplot will be one of the big point of divergence. There's the kernel of something interesting to it, but in the book it doesn't really amount to much more than a steady stream of silly sex euphemisms and fetishistic descriptions of pretty petite Japanese ladies. I also wonder if they'll kill Mariko near the end or if that will be changed too. they have to do the spoiler thing, it's a crucial plot and character point
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2024 10:42 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 17:31 |
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the leper lord for example also has another sort of thing going on Japanese culture says you're unclean and it's probably a spiritual problem, some sufficiently motivated Catholic priest says no actually you can repent and it'll all be cool when you die
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 06:49 |
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:lolwut at not-Tokugawa going "race you to the shore?" and diving in with a full set of heavy cotton undergarments surprising yet fitting ending to the show
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2024 07:52 |
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It also does a good job of portraying, in a show that so far doesn't have fantastical murder-heroes, that Buntaro is a fairly superlative warrior. He just shears through the opposition until they can start bringing their numbers to bear.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 01:08 |
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Yup. They even had a baby-sized urn ready to go. babies are generally pretty incompetent
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2024 22:33 |
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:It's one of the three novels I have ever read twice. (The other two being The Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye; make of that what you will.) well i guess you have 33% acceptable taste i loving despise holden caulfield
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2024 03:38 |
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Fujiko: I'm happy to hand Anjin's guns over to your third in command, once I'm out of ammo
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2024 05:32 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Does Shogun take place before or after the Mongolian invasions? Mongol invasions: midgame crusader kings Shogun: midgame Europa universalis *taps head*
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2024 02:56 |
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I'm really pleased with how this episode centered the female characters (in a way the book didn't because James Clavell, while well-meaning, was a 70s-80s white guy rip). I mean, we've had Fuji acting her eyeballs out since her first appearance in the Baby Incident, but this was basically an episode focused on the women. also 1) totally facile observation but "Ladies of the Willow World" also applies a bit to Mariko and Ochiba, they're women of good birth and good education sold to men in more or less the same way and 2) they were traumatized in more or less the same way, but Mariko sank into icy depression and service to Toranaga and Ochiba became a power hungry rear end in a top hat in the book Ishido gets more of the spotlight, here she's got her arm up his butt using him as a hand puppet, lol spectacular episode, sad we only have four more left but at this rate it's going to be a tightly plotted perfect miniseries and that's not a bad thing
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 07:40 |
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also iirc the book describes ishido as short and ugly whereas this guy is reasonably attractive and doesn't have obvious establishing shots of him being short, but because the casting in this show is amazing he makes up for it by seething in rage that people above him (except ochiba and the heir) have the temerity to exist and people below him have the temerity to not grovel
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 08:22 |
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Perestroika posted:I'd also argue that the whole thing with "the antagonists are ugly goblins while the protagonists are handsome chads" is kind of an outdated convention that would have felt pretty out of place here. Yeah that's a pretty good point, it's just another 1970s Writer Thing lol.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 15:36 |
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:I was refreshing myself with passages from the book, and at least in one scene in the second half, Ishido is described as "tall, lean and autocratic". Really? Huh. Egg on my face then, swear to God my memory thought it was very clear on this
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 23:19 |
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XYZAB posted:
you must live and post. Ask again next episode
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2024 01:52 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:wouldn’t he have used a boarding pike or something, for melee if anything? Comparing his "eh gently caress it" basically competent polearm handling (har har har) in the ambush to him looking like a dumbass with the sword might suggest that.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2024 21:39 |
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Dikkfor posted:Someone should probably confiscate all these swords or something.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 02:04 |
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Nybble posted:If they nail the finale, Shogun might be my favorite season of TV ever. Andor before it, but Shogun has done so much with just 10 episodes. Yabu would have exactly the same vibe if he were an ISB officer
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 03:13 |
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:someone please give me a jacket based on yabu's crow feather armor. Saeki Toranagabrother is the one character in the show I've noticed wearing something similar but his feathers are white. In this essay I will
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 00:30 |
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Hirsute posted:On a lighter note - the costumes are indeed amazing but I've found myself mostly wondering what it feels like (on a tactile, cloth-on-skin sense) to wear top-quality silk like that. Must feel pretty awesome! book has some whole bits in how the silk trade is vital to the comfort of everyone in Japan with any money at all
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 02:19 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 17:31 |
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blue squares posted:Why the hell was this episode called "Crimson Sky"? What a bait and switch. because it's Toranaga's actual assault on Ishido-occupied Osaka
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 05:32 |