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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I can't believe JK Rowling was a Holocaust this whole time.

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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Failed Imagineer posted:

I laughed hard at this bit. But it was in the movie Amsterdam, not See How They Run - both kind of twee period romps so understandable confusion.

TS is pretty good - I'd say she's got at least a dozen certifiable bangers, but watching the entire Eras concert was a slog, she uses a lot of the same vocal patterns over and over and over. Her song with Justin Vernon is great.

This is how I viewed her but recently I have gone a bit deep end. Got into her kind of backwards - from Folklore with Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) and Aaron Dessner (The National) - through to the earlier stuff.

She could always sling a hook and is a very good lyricist imo, but I don't think you really appreciate her until you start to see the journey she's been on from bible belt country pinup to beatlemania level superstar. Red and 1984 are the key nuts to crack, when I understood how autobiographical they were they become a lot more impactful and you could see the themes running through from earlier and to later records. Warning - understanding this may require you to listen to a Swifty go on about Jake Gyllenhaal a lot!

She has improved a ton over ten albums as well. I honestly think she'll be remembered as a feminist icon - akin to Boni Tyler or Joni Mitchell - in retrospect.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 16, 2024

Honest Davion
Jul 25, 2006
I buy Joel Nerf Guns
When I listen to music at work it's usually an audio assault on me to cover the sound of the CNC Mill. It made for a very quiet time last week when I turned it off because of a contractor working in the area, I figured some people probably find a cacophony of Swedish death metal a bit distracting to work around.

I mean probably still better than the same songs each day on Absolute Radio that the rest of the factory has, but ya know

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Zalakwe posted:

This is how I viewed her but recently I have gone a bit deep end. Got into her kind of backwards - from Folklore with Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) and Aaron Dessner (The National) - through to the earlier stuff.

She could always sling a hook and is a very good lyricist imo, but I don't think you really appreciate her until you start to see the journey she's been on from bible belt country pinup to beatlemania level superstar. Red and 1984 are the key nuts to crack, when you start to understand how autobiographical they are they become a lot more impactful. Warning - doing this may require you to listen to a Swifty go on about Jake Gyllenhaal a lot!

She has improved a ton over ten albums as well. I honestly think she'll be remembered as a feminist icon - akin to Boni Tyler or Joni Mitchell - in retrospect.

She'll certainly go down as a feminist icon of some description, but a musical comparison to Joni Mitchell (maybe the most talented songwriter of the 20th century?) is a bit fanciful.

I appreciate the irony of what I'm about to say shortly after praising Stephin Merritt's 69 Love Songs, but there's a kinda upper limit for how many fairly-similar midtempo pop love songs I can hold up as genuine classics. They all blend together a little bit, particularly as a concert experience. I have a fair bit of background on Swift minutia and Jake and scarves and friendship bracelets and whatnot - my friend DJs Swiftogeddon nights and my wife worked with Joe Alwyn and met Swift a while back. So I appreciate the craft, and certainly the graft, but I can't cosign this weird groupthink that every Swift album is a life-changing event that needs to be pored over under an electron microscope. She's very good, but it just gets a bit much.

That being said, nothing wrong with fan/stan culture poo poo when it's not toxic - people's brains like to latch onto stuff and it doesn't really matter if it's Swift or Warhams or whatever, go nuts.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Zalakwe posted:

This is how I viewed her but recently I have gone a bit deep end. Got into her kind of backwards - from Folklore with Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) and Aaron Dessner (The National) - through to the earlier stuff.

She could always sling a hook and is a very good lyricist imo, but I don't think you really appreciate her until you start to see the journey she's been on from bible belt country pinup to beatlemania level superstar. Red and 1984 are the key nuts to crack, when I understood how autobiographical they were they become a lot more impactful and you could see the themes running through from earlier and to later records. Warning - understanding this may require you to listen to a Swifty go on about Jake Gyllenhaal a lot!

She has improved a ton over ten albums as well. I honestly think she'll be remembered as a feminist icon - akin to Boni Tyler or Joni Mitchell - in retrospect.

Fun fact. I have kissed Boni Tyler

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Failed Imagineer posted:

She's very good, but it just gets a bit much.

I can appreciate that and might have recently reached my own saturation point with her. Done it with plenty of other artists as well.

That said I think it's very hard to compare backwards and say definitively who is or isn't an amazing songwriter. Her songs mean a great deal to a great number of people and she is probably the most high profile voice of this generation of women. I wouldn't say she is as good as Joni Mitchell either but who am I to say really.

Time will tell I'm sure. In the meantime I am going to continue to annoy my obsessed mate by telling him the best thing The National have made in the last decade is a Taylor Swift album.

smellmycheese posted:

Fun fact. I have kissed Boni Tyler

This is an excellent fact.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

lol

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Calling the IKs on everyone in this thread who doesn't recognise our lord and saviour T Swift

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
MP discovers the concept of 'crime'

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think I could probably recognize Taylor Swift unless she was wearing a disguise.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Apraxin posted:

MP discovers the concept of 'crime'



Wait is this MP coming to the conclusion that drug prohibition is futile?

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

Honest Davion posted:

When I listen to music at work it's usually an audio assault on me to cover the sound of the CNC Mill. It made for a very quiet time last week when I turned it off because of a contractor working in the area, I figured some people probably find a cacophony of Swedish death metal a bit distracting to work around.

I mean probably still better than the same songs each day on Absolute Radio that the rest of the factory has, but ya know
When i was working at a place with a radio on all day absolute radio was a godsend because while they played the same songs every day they at least had a day long no repeats playlist and like 6 different themed stations.

When they put on capital or kiss instead it felt like they had 4 tracks on repeat and one of them would be a remix of whatever one was already the most overplayed. I could have done with out listening to that loving happy song every 15 minutes of my working life for a year.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Apraxin posted:

MP discovers the concept of 'crime'



He appears to be advocating to allow everyone to legally schnozz a bit of chop

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Rarity posted:

Calling the IKs on everyone in this thread who doesn't recognise our lord and saviour T Swift
A billionaire cannot be good :colbert:

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

sinky posted:

A billionaire cannot be good :colbert:

This. Especially Taylor Swift with her over the top private jet use and her melty politics.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Taylor Swift has a few banger songs but on the whole she sucks.

And she betrayed Olivia Rodrigo

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

Mr Phillby posted:

When they put on capital or kiss instead it felt like they had 4 tracks on repeat and one of them would be a remix of whatever one was already the most overplayed. I could have done with out listening to that loving happy song every 15 minutes of my working life for a year.

Had the same problem just before Covid but with Heart FM. Just my luck it was loving Galway Girl by Sheeran or that Lizzo song 6 times a day.

The only Taylor Swift song I know most of is Shake it off by pure osmosis. I tried the Dessner acoustic ones because I like The National a few times before realising it was the musical equivalent of an air freshener blast. it just evaporated from my memory 5 minutes later. Nothing against her, her stuff just floats in one ear and out the other. I don't know why people confuse 'selling large volumes of music to teens' with being 'the greatest singer/songwriter'.

Heh Dua Lipa went to Sylvia Young Theatre School, you'd think they'd have a few acting classes then but I guess not everyone can be a triple threat.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Apraxin posted:

MP discovers the concept of 'crime'


And it only took them 97 years to find out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcbcNNF8aTs

keep punching joe posted:

And she betrayed Olivia Rodrigo
Wait what happened here?

Goldskull posted:

Shake it off by pure osmosis
Taylor Schiff base

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Honest Davion posted:

When I listen to music at work it's usually an audio assault on me to cover the sound of the CNC Mill.

Assume the sound of a CNC Mill is 'Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm'

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Guavanaut posted:

Wait what happened here?

There's a compelling fan theory that Vampire is actually about Rodrigo/Swifts friendship, and subsequent falling out over Swift sueing her for songwriting credits on a couple of tracks on her first album.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1780215571327451265?t=ahCOjadjZN6VMMJd1-GrdQ&s=19

Perfection.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
liz truss do a bible version

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
great to see you, to see you great

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

More Truss gold

https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1780247850527387905?s=46

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
A better PM than Liz Truss:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

keep punching joe posted:

There's a compelling fan theory that Vampire is actually about Rodrigo/Swifts friendship, and subsequent falling out over Swift sueing her for songwriting credits on a couple of tracks on her first album.

Tay and Liv are pals again, they turned up for each other at the Grammys

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
Did this guy lose a bet or something?


quote:

In the smoking debate the Conservative MP Alexander Stafford (Rother Valley) compared supporters of the government’s bill to Roundheads. He explained:

There were so many Roundheads fighting the king many years ago in the civil war, but I would say there’s too many Roundheads at the moment in this parliament. Too many naysayers, too many people banning things.

What we need is a few more Cavaliers, a few people trying to enjoy bits of life and making those informed choices.

For that reason, I oppose this bill – although it has got some good bits about vaping – what we should be doing is fighting the next battle against vapes … rather than wasting our time fighting yesterday’s battles.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
1989 is mid and shake it off is a war crime. i only have room in my heart for one big pop star and that is carly rae jepsen

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
From the descriptions I read earlier l thought 100 gecs were going to sound like Lightning Bolt or something, but I gave them a listen and they do not.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Nuclear Spoon posted:

1989 is mid and shake it off is a war crime. i only have room in my heart for one big pop star and that is carly rae jepsen

Agreed. Saw The Jep last summer and nearly cried she was so good lol

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Just noticed, on the bbc.com site, they have removed the UK politics page.
So can't even see what is happening internally now with the Tories and parliament.
Can't even read about NI politics either.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

happyhippy posted:

Just noticed, on the bbc.com site, they have removed the UK politics page.
So can't even see what is happening internally now with the Tories and parliament.
Can't even read about NI politics either.

It's still there. The BBC website has a habit of occasionally dropping random topics off the top menu bar. You should still be able to get it through the More tab.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The British Broadcasting Corporation no longer recognizes the legitimacy of the so-called United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Soylent Yellow posted:

It's still there. The BBC website has a habit of occasionally dropping random topics off the top menu bar. You should still be able to get it through the More tab.

Can't see 'More' any more.
Maybe need an account to read it.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
1. Some people need to listen to Getaway car

2. If we do start conscription they won’t be able to smoke em if they got em, because they don’t got em.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Lol, pathetic

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1780249486322712955?t=dWcggixxTGZ-vpmtWjqs5g&s=19

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Easy solution there, be too busy to respond to the next one. Next question?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Nuclear Spoon posted:

1989 is mid and shake it off is a war crime. i only have room in my heart for one big pop star and that is carly rae jepsen

call me maybe is still a banger and i regularly exercise to it lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


i sent you jet fighter please respond

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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

I love the way she seems so happy she 'wrote' a book..

(by 'wrote' I mean got someone else to to do it for her).

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