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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

pencilhands posted:

the vice president of the united states is a moron who believes in astrology

nice misogyny.

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

goons slamming beyonce and taylor swift and then praising a 20 year old ween album. lol :smugmrgw:

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

"golden job market" lmfao

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Who are you going to believe, your empty stomach or my chart?

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

mcmagic posted:

They wouldn't have done a full ground invasion and occupation of Afghanistan if 9/11 didn't happen. I don't believe that.

:)

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Thoguh posted:

Since we are having a big language derail, am I the only one annoyed by all the zoomers that think ‘whilst’ is a just a fancy way to say ‘while’ and use it constantly?

it depends how its being used but in some cases theyre right.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Casey Finnigan posted:

I don't know what whilst is supposed to be other than a fancy way to say while

The poo poo that drives me insane is when zoomers say poo poo like "unalive" and "sewerslide". that stuff is not good.

max zoomer would be un*l*v* or s*w*rsl*de

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


saying “Senator I always thought you were an anti-racist" to Senator Lurch sounds like a You Problem frankly

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Dommolus Magnus posted:

Apparently, there are people who believe that ancient Greeks could not see the colour blue for similar reasons. Not sure if they were ever undergraduates though.

isnt that mostly because of Anti-Fragile? Talib was the main person i saw put that forward and eventually recanted

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

sullat posted:

The main source is because Homer (you know, a blind guy) kept on calling it "the wine-dark sea" and people were like, "hmm, this means greeks can't see blue."

right. thats talib's source in anti-fragile as well. i assumed that was just some poo poo he came up with tho.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Bad news about classicists.

lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

dnc protection racket

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

spacemang_spliff posted:

the failin' NYT is the enemy of the people

qft

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

my bony fealty posted:

that guy who put his feet on Pelosi's desk is a hero. if only he had pissed on it too

same but the guy that stole aoc's shoes

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

comedyblissoption posted:

president trump throw the pepsi co execs into prison

if trump was serious about going to war with the deep state he would, unironically, have to address The Soda Pop Distributors

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

long version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpUx9DnQUkA

(i dont generally recommend lindsay ellis btw this is her only genuinely good video as far as i can tell)

short version

so stockholm syndrome as you may or may not know is the psychological theory that kidnapped people become sympathetic to their captors the theorys kind of bullshit (it almost certainly owes its legitimacy solely to patty hearst using it as a criminal defense) but its nonetheless on the surface level very applicable to the story of beauty and the beast because everyone knows that belle is taken captive by beast and falls in love with him and there was a time when stockholm syndrome was this cool hip thing that all the smart people know about hence how this became a cool edgy critique of this childrens cartoon

if you remember anything that actually happens in the movie of course it very quickly falls apart belle heroically offers herself in exchange as a hostage for her father whose original crime is not in dispute additionally the ambiguity of beasts character is like the whole driver of the second act by the end of which its clearly established that hes not terrifying people on purpose because he has asides where he expresses remorse and regrets over his overreaction and lack of self control and its also pretty clearly implied he has issues with self hatred and only agrees to the exchange at all because he knows his servants are also on the hook for the curse

the disney remake removes the asides under the assumption that theyre stockholm syndromesque conditioning but this toxically affects beast because now instead of showing belle the library because he has a eureka moment on his lonesome and realizes shed probably like the library and he wants to do something nice for her instead the idea and the introduction happen in the same scene so he just looks like a pimp showing off consequently belle also doesnt teach him how to read in the live action version because women teaching men to do things is sexist so instead hes just a jackass whos already smugly just as good at reading as she is

the bigger broader failure of the live action version that it turns the townspeople into sympathetic characters by also making them victims of the curse this completely changes the tone of the final act from gaston being a charismatic demagogue whipping the crowd into a kneejerk frenzy to him just being a weird...kindof...guy??? who noone really even likes all that much which is very much against the tone of the original which very unsubtly emphasizes that men should be judged according to their motivations not their competency in projecting a good public image which doesnt necessarily have anything to do with whether theyre actually a good person this was a very common third wave feminist idea and you can really see how the fourth wave shifted the conversation that this became toxic but that having gastons sidekick be gay (maybe???) is enough to make him sympathetic too when as gastons hype man hes arguably even more dangerous than gaston himself

twitter size version

https://twitter.com/embernic/status/1773069759996719277

im not reading any of that

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

please take Disney chat to the cspam Disney adult thread

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Joementum posted:

i laugh every time i see this picture



:)

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

PoundSand posted:

You know I never really considered that taking steps to improve the life of your SO was debt that needed to be paid back.

this is why send a venmo request to my wife for $20 every day

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Automata 10 Pack posted:

So just pay $50 a month until death, and if you graduate at 22 and die at 75 then that loan basically costed you $32,000?

seems like a pretty fair deal when you put it that way.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

newsom hasnt held a press conference in weeks (oppa brandon style) and postponed his state of the state address indefinitely, but made time for the mewling shitsuckers at the atlanic, naturally

https://apple.news/AVxHQA0kPQ1OhLJ4S60P8Fw

quote:

As the president departed on a trip to Los Angeles in February, a reporter shouted a question from the White House lawn about whether Newsom should be standing by in case a Democratic alternative was needed for 2024. Biden blew it off, but the episode highlighted the ongoing nuisance of the age issue, which had just been revived by Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report describing the president as “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” As Newsom has denied any interest in replacing Biden, the president in turn has flattered him on the subject. “He’s been one hell of a governor, man,” Biden said of Newsom during a stop in San Francisco last November. “He could have the job I’m looking for.”

...

At the start of our interview, Newsom pointed across his room to a photo of himself with Donald and Melania in the Oval Office. “My staff put it up there, kind of as a joke, and I kept it,” Newsom told me. It is also a conversation piece, over which Newsom became quite animated. He appears to have a fascination with Trump, and not just as an evil adversary. Newsom, who campaigned in 2018 on a pledge to make California “a resistance state,” likes to mention that he worked well with Trump during his first two years in Sacramento. “We had the baseline of a relationship that benefited California significantly,” he told me. He watched Trump closely and tried to decipher how best to manage the needy president during COVID and severe wildfires in his state. He stroked Trump in public. “I want to thank you and acknowledge the work that you’ve done to be immediate in terms of your response,” Newsom told Trump in front of reporters at Sacramento’s McClellan Airport during a visit from the president in September 2020.

As Newsom continued a prolonged riff about Trump during our interview—what he learned watching Trump’s “dialectic” with the media or riding with him on Air Force One—he sounded strangely captivated, as if he had been privileged to observe a feral and predatory peacock in the wild. The association sounded more important to Newsom than I might have imagined.

Newsom told me that every time he placed a call to Trump in the White House, someone would patch him through or the president would call right back. That changed when Newsom reached out a few days after Trump lost the 2020 election. He heard nothing. “And I was like, Wow,” Newsom said. “And then I called a few days later—I figured he was busy—and they said, ‘He’s not available.’ And I’m like, Whoa.” He said he was genuinely taken aback by the snub, despite the addled state Trump was obviously in at the time and the overall madhouse that the White House had become.

I asked Newsom if he had spoken with Trump since, or heard from him after the DeSantis donnybrook. He said no (a spokesperson for the former president echoed this), but my query appeared to trigger an odd reaction in Newsom. His face turned red, which I noted to him. “No, that’s because the sunlight is beaming on me,” he protested, pointing out the window into the expansive California glare.

Newsom said that my “line of questioning is interesting.” He offered a wordy zigzag of a reply: “The fact that you are not the first person to ask me ‘Did he call you?’—particularly some of your sophisticated colleagues—is suggestive.”

I found Newsom’s labyrinthine answer to also be “suggestive.”

Newsom has a personal connection to Trump, via his first wife, Guilfoyle. He does not love to discuss his ex. “I’m sensitive to the world I’m currently living in, at home particularly,” he told me. Still, he is asked about Guilfoyle a lot, mostly in the vein of “What’s the deal there?”

...

Newsom and Guilfoyle met in 1994, at a Democratic fundraiser in San Francisco. She worked in the district attorney’s office, and he owned a chain of local food and wine establishments. They married seven years later and were dubbed “The New Kennedys” in a Harper’s Bazaar spread. “Do I think he could be president of the United States?” Guilfoyle told the magazine. “Absolutely. I’d gladly vote for him.” That comment appears no longer operative. (Guilfoyle declined to comment for this article.)

“I didn’t change; he did,” Guilfoyle fired back in an interview with the right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk. She said Newsom was once a champion of entrepreneurs and small business but has since become “unrecognizable” to her. “He’s fallen prey to the left, the radical left.”

...

If Trump wins in November, Newsom will remain the governor of the nation’s most populous state and biggest resistance zone. In his office, he keeps a marked-up copy of a policy blueprint, “Project 2025,” prepared by the Heritage Foundation as a possible preview of a next Trump term. “I’m going through 100 pages of this. I’m not screwing around,” Newsom told me. He said his team is “Trump-proofing California,” preparing to enact whatever measures they can to thwart a hostile Republican White House. To better understand his political opposition, Newsom begins each morning with a heavy intake of far-right media. “There’s so many things that come our way that are so batshit-crazy,” he said. “You can’t deny where half of America lives.”

Newsom has endured a difficult few months in California. His approval ratings recently dropped under 50 percent for the first time since he became governor. He devoted a great deal of time and capital to promoting a ballot measure—Proposition 1—to allocate $6.4 billion to mental-health treatment programs. The proposal was expected to pass easily in March but barely did—a possible sign of weakness as Newsom faces another recall effort and a budget crisis.

Newsom can be deeply cynical at times when discussing politics. But he can also display a boyish and even starstruck side. I watched him stare wide-eyed at his note from Mays and marvel. “Piles of ‘Go gently caress yourself,’” Newsom said, describing his typical mail. “And then Willie Mays sends a letter.”

...

He showed me a few items in a side office, at the moment dominated by the big-screened head of the legal commentator Jonathan Turley yammering on Fox. A few feet away stood a picture of Newsom and Pelosi from the 1990s, in his first race for the San Francisco Board of Supervisors; shots of Schwarzenegger, Newsom’s late father, and various Kennedys; and a small table full of booze. Newsom hoisted a bottle of wine someone had recently given him: DeSantis, the vintage is called. I imagined a libation of complex and astringent notes, not at all supple or aromatic.

“I may send it to him,” Newsom told me. He said he wanted to strike up at least some tiny bit of rapport with the Florida governor during their Hannity encounter. “I tried, during every commercial break,” Newsom said. “We did the makeup.” Nothing. Newsom shook his head and imitated DeSantis, looking at his shoes, hands shoved into his pockets.

...

Newsom said his distaste for DeSantis stems from what he describes as his Florida counterpart’s attacks on vulnerable targets—migrants, transgender and disabled people, often kids. Newsom himself was bullied as a child. He struggled with dyslexia, had a bowl haircut, and walked around school with a briefcase. The neighborhood kids could be merciless. He grew into a star athlete, 6-foot-3 with a potential run for president in his future. “But I’m still that kid,” he told me.

Being around Newsom, you sense an ongoing tug between boyish and sober impulses. He can fall heavily on nostalgia—and RFK quotes—while asserting himself as an agent of the future. He reveres the old-school pols who mentored him while striving to be inventive and distinct. It is vital, Newsom told me, “to take risks and not be reckless, but keep trying things.” To be original but restrained when necessary. “I don’t want to be derivative” might be as close as he comes to codifying a leadership philosophy: the Roger Bannister theory of life tempered by the venerated principle of waiting one’s turn, if it ever comes.

I hate this fuckin guy and this country wont be rid of him for decades. get ready for Gavin other states

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Joementum posted:

i promise you that i'm not posting this in the wrong thread

https://twitter.com/people/status/1777820792505458738

weird guy who spends all of his time online and everyone hates him and his posts, but he is dating a famous actress? well,

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


Xi's annoying boomer neighbor: Who's walking who, am I right? haha

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

1glitch0 posted:

"Michael, what did you do!"

"Well who did you vote for Pam!?"

"... That's not relevant right now..."

lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

for the last like 2 months I have been getting approximately 20 texts a week from the dnc asking me for money. thanks for selling all my info Bernie you fucker

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

"These calls always seem to end up at women's feet" is really funny given how everyone who said rgb needed to retire was unequivocally correct and totally vindicated.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

not many writing styles more revolting to me than that particular type of try-hard hip gen x political punditry

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

The Oldest Man posted:

wait you're telling me that dei and critical race theory are readily weaponized against workers by bosses

workers are chuds idiot

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

lol the lady upset about this wrote this piece come ON grow UP



lmao

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Mar 21, 2011


post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

[Succ] the genocide in gaza is bad !!! but

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Nichael posted:

when you cummed but ducklo still suckin'


he looks like that Jeff Dunham old man puppet

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

should've used this pic instead



lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

The Obamarcology

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

World War Mammories posted:

that anyone might take this joke seriously really says a lot about society

its almost irrelevant whether than specific post is a joke or not -- that has been the literal white house message that has trickled through every major news org in the world for like 2 months now

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I know Yglesias is paid to be that way, but do you think he knows it?

Like, when he comes up with contrarian takes that are annoying and pedantic to support the status quo, is he punching the clock, or does he really think it's a good idea?

hes a true believer, no doubt about it.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


if biden locked her up in february 2021 as a bipartisan gesture of goodwill he'd be cruising to re-election right now.

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


lol

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