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 Read the spoiler policy before posting! You've been warned.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwebgSJ60k Can you feel it? CAN YOU FEEL IT? For the first time since 2020, there will be more than six straight weeks of new Doctor Who! Holy poo poo! The Fifteenth Doctor (as played by Ncuti Gatwa) is FINALLY getting a full season to stretch his legs about two years after he got announced, and considering the long turnaround time this show apparently has now I fully expect him to announce he's leaving the show after finishing filming episodes that won't air until 2028. Until then, we have The fortieth (  ) season of Doctor Who runs for seven weeks, with two episodes on 11 May and one per week following that until 22 June:1) Space Babies 2) The Devil's Chord 3) Boom 4) 73 Yards 5) Dot and Bubble 6) Rogue 7) The Legend of Ruby Sunday 8) Empire of Death The previous thread can be found here Now, the formalities. PLEASE READ ---> NO SPOILERS <---PLEASE READ We have a designated spoiler thread that is thankfully relevant once again. Now, follow me on this next part. New episodes of Doctor Who will go online at Midnight Greenwich Daylight Time several hours before it formally airs on BBC One. I've deliberated on how to make this thread accessible to those who prefer to watch on the Beeb, and here is my edict: you must use spoiler tags while discussing episodes that are on iPlayer and Disney+ but not yet aired on BBC One. While I cannot enforce this rule in TV IV, rest assured I will probate you should you post in the gambling sub-forum and I remember you breaking the rule (and that this rule exists). Please, I beg of you, keep in mind the poor Brit browsing Something Awful with a 56k modem. WHERE DO I START? The Church on Ruby Road is the easiest place to start, given that it features a new Doctor and new companion giving first impressions. Hey, you finished! If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes. The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks HOW DO I WATCH DOCTOR WHO? If you're in the UK, it's easy - turn on BBC One to watch new episodes, or fire up your iPlayer and watch almost every episode of Doctor Who in existence! For everyone else, it's complicated. 1963-1989: BritBox 2005-2022: Max in the United States, Prime Video in Canada, and Foxtel Now in Australia (if you live somewhere else, I'm sorry, but I can't put every nation here) 2023-20??: Disney+ And no, it's not getting any simpler. Also, don't ask about how to stream the TV movie, because I don't know how. SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU-RAYs? Just for the bonus features alone. They can't take those away from you! THE ALL-NEW GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are literally THOUSANDS of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. In previous threads, I would pour over all the individual lines and describe them. With the great restructure of Big Finish lines, though, I have to adapt. So, here are some bullet points: -Doctors 1-12 have their own individual lines now, although obviously the first three Doctors are not played by Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee. Here's a handy guide: if it's current series Doctor Who, "Adventures" means it's the actual actors, while "Chronicles" means it's not. -The Companion Chronicles & the Early Adventures generally do not feature the Doctor, and some of them are essentially audiobooks with sound effects. Check the cast list if you want to know which is which. -If you have ever asked "what about <random character x>?", boy are you in luck! There are so many spin-offs featuring characters both familiar and unfamiliar that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a series that makes you say "THEY got a series?" Some are good, some are bad, most are unremarkable. -Everyone has a taste, so don't rely on other people's opinions. For example, I don't care for or about Charlotte Pollard and her spin-off, but some people do! Some crazy people enjoy the story Nekromanteia - you do you! THE DISCORD Here it is. The future is now! FINALLY, let's take a look back....all the way to ten years ago! CobiWann posted:Bring back the Ralstan Warrior Robot from The Five Doctors! marktheando posted:Raston! And yes, do that. CobiWann posted:Sorry, couldn’t hear the name properly with this drat horn going off all the time… *jumps and vanishes*
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2 episodes back to back? Amazing! 8 episodes instead of a full 13 episode season? BOO!
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May 1, 2024 06:04
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Infinitum posted:2 episodes back to back? Amazing! I wouldn't be shocked if the budget for the rest of the season went into the four specials. And if that's the case then I am absolutely not complaining.
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May 1, 2024 07:53
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Infinitum posted:8 episodes instead of a full 13 episode season? BOO! We last had a full 13-episode season more than ten years and four doctors ago. Also I finally got around to watching the specials and they were so much fun. Hopefully I won't need to go back and watch Flux, since I never saw it and I feel like I understand it less and less the more I see people in these threads describe things that happen in it.
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May 1, 2024 08:04
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tl;dr Jason from Friday the 13th pulls a deus ex machina and hoovers up the Fluxx. Half the universe is dead. Saved you a watch.
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May 1, 2024 08:19
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Oh, they're airing the first two episodes simultaneously? ...So it's effectively a seven-episode season since discussion about the first two episodes will be lumped together instead of each getting a week of fangasming
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May 1, 2024 08:57
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Despite having Disney+, I'm sad this isn't gonna be on the ABC in Australia. Whovians was a super geeky fun time.
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May 1, 2024 11:06
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Senor Tron posted:Despite having Disney+, I'm sad this isn't gonna be on the ABC in Australia. Whovians was a super geeky fun time. I still think that you could genuinely get an Australian senate seat by using 'Doctor Who on the ABC' and 'The Simpsons on Channel Ten' as the spearhead for a greater campaign on decentralization of media ownership.
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May 1, 2024 11:55
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Vinylshadow posted:...So it's effectively a seven-episode season since discussion about the first two episodes will be lumped together instead of each getting a week of fangasming What? I don't know what happened in the age of streaming, but I've never counted seasons or episodes based on how they dropped but just based on how many there were.
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May 1, 2024 11:57
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Cleretic posted:I still think that you could genuinely get an Australian senate seat by using 'Doctor Who on the ABC' and 'The Simpsons on Channel Ten' as the spearhead for a greater campaign on decentralization of media ownership. Now the Murdochcracy doesn't own it, they might let you.
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May 1, 2024 12:01
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Disney wouldn't be happy. You'd probably end up in a ditch somewhere
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May 1, 2024 12:23
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I can't believe it's finally (almost) time for new Doctor Who! 
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May 1, 2024 12:42
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Jerusalem posted:I can't believe it's finally (almost) time for new Doctor Who! Good news for you, you're up to Village of the Angels - the legitimately good Flux episode Bad news for you, you're only 4 episodes away from Legend of the Sea Devils
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May 1, 2024 12:48
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Infinitum posted:Good news for you, you're up to Village of the Angels - the legitimately good Flux episode I was so hopeful after Eve of the Daleks... 
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May 1, 2024 13:01
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Yeah, I think the passage of time will be quite kind to Eve of the Daleks on rewatches. It's good! Just a fun little unremarkable time loop romp! It doesn't need to be anything more than that! The only real faults being Chibnall's insistence on all 3 of his New Year's Day specials being Dalek themed, and that it's at the business end of his tenure as showrunner when everyone is pretty much, unfortunately, done with 13. Sea Devils though? Just... just skip it.
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May 1, 2024 13:09
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Infinitum posted:Yeah, I think the passage of time will be quite kind to Eve of the Daleks on rewatches. It's good! Just a fun little unremarkable time loop romp! It doesn't need to be anything more than that! Agreed. And of course it wouldn't be Doctor Who if we didn't have to say " yeah it's a good episode, except for that weird (x) [ie red flag romance stuff...]" Takes me back to the good old days of " yeah it's pretty good, I swear just ignore the trash cans eating people and farting aliens for a bit..". But sea devils? Ugh.
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An episode featuring Madam Ching, how could you go wrong!?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oWVbk6gDvE&t=36s
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Infinitum posted:Yeah, I think the passage of time will be quite kind to Eve of the Daleks on rewatches. It's good! Just a fun little unremarkable time loop romp! It doesn't need to be anything more than that! RAT-A-TAT-A-TAT-A-TAT-A-TAT-A-TAT-A-TAT--
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May 1, 2024 13:19
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Jerusalem posted:An episode featuring Madam Ching, how could you go wrong!? Yeeeeeeeaaah. Could have subbed out Madam Ching for Random Asian Female Pirate and it wouldn't have had any impact on the plot. It did them an incredible disservice. And I get that they were dealing with covid in the midst of it, but that goes towards major problems with the script rather than production. McGann posted:Takes me back to the good old days of " yeah it's pretty good, I swear just ignore the trash cans eating people and farting aliens for a bit..".  (Genuinely curious if/when we'll get our first "Gee Rusty, that sure is weird as gently caress" moment in the new series)
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May 1, 2024 13:22
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Infinitum posted:Yeeeeeeeaaah. Could have subbed out Madam Ching for Random Asian Female Pirate and it wouldn't have had any impact on the plot. I think the real question is would Disney of made him remove the blowjob joke?
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May 1, 2024 13:32
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That probably wouldn't have saved it, though, lol. It's that her having a fate worse than death is a happy ending. They should have just had her survive as she was and the rest of them lost, honestly, it's a better way to communicate what he was going for.
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May 1, 2024 13:37
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Infinitum posted:And I get that they were dealing with covid in the midst of it, but that goes towards major problems with the script rather than production. I've said this before, but that story went through significant reworking during the edit because the original version of the story had all the Asian actors speaking with heavy accents. This was decided to be racist, so they redubbed everything and removed other scenes that were considered to be culturally insenstive. Hence the Asian actors rarely ever speaking on screen. Dunno why they kept the "don't let the swords touch your skin" line though, wtf was anyone thinking. There was also a problem with the sea devil mask that was intended to be expressive (kind of like how there's one Ood mask that blinks and the others are all static). Basically it never worked and looked like poo poo, and attempts to fix it in post were problematic. Bicyclops posted:a fate worse than death ooft mate, she's just a SFnal quadriplegic. If she exists at all (ambiguous) Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 13:45 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 13:39
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In fact, since he's doing a redemption tour, hire Shirley back and have Fifteen stop by and say "Hey, I learned a new trick, here's your body back."
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May 1, 2024 13:40
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Open Source Idiom posted:There was also a problem with the sea devil mask that was intended to be expressive (kind of like how there's one Ood mask that blinks and the others are all static). Basically it worked and looked like poo poo, and attempts to fix it in post were problematic. It really did.
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May 1, 2024 13:42
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You've got Madam Ching there doing basically nothing and then some random male pirate from like 2 centuries earlier shows up and is the one central to the resolution. It's... baffling.
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May 1, 2024 13:45
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I think New Who flubs the historical eps more often than it nails them overall, unfortunately.
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Bicyclops posted:I think New Who flubs the historical eps more often than it nails them overall, unfortunately. Ironically, I think the best episodes of Chibnall's run were often the historicals, because they usually did really well at putting the 'alien' part as a background element and instead foregrounding the actual historical parts. Demons of the Punjab, The Witchfinders and The Haunting of Villa Diodati are all honestly really strong episodes in my book, largely because they're primarily about the time or event in which it's set. Legend of the Sea Devils is the exception, and I genuinely feel like it might be bad because it's less of a straight historical. They should've written it as 'Madam Ching first, Sea Devils a distant second', but I feel like most of the flaws come from the fact they went the other way.
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May 1, 2024 14:58
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Cleretic posted:Ironically, I think the best episodes of Chibnall's run were often the historicals, because they usually did really well at putting the 'alien' part as a background element and instead foregrounding the actual historical parts. Demons of the Punjab, The Witchfinders and The Haunting of Villa Diodati are all honestly really strong episodes in my book, largely because they're primarily about the time or event in which it's set. Nikolai Tesla's Night of Terror is perfectly serviceable too.
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May 1, 2024 15:09
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New Doctor Who soon, you say??
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May 1, 2024 15:10
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PriorMarcus posted:I think the real question is would Disney of made him remove the blowjob joke? I can't remember if there's been anything bawdy in the new episodes yet. Not that I remember anyway. The big litmus test will be if Moffat is allowed to insert his signature wink-nudge reference to handcuffs
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May 1, 2024 15:23
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2house2fly posted:I can't remember if there's been anything bawdy in the new episodes yet. Not that I remember anyway. The big litmus test will be if Moffat is allowed to insert his signature wink-nudge reference to handcuffs Given what we know about his episodes the answer to this is... probably?
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Cleretic posted:Ironically, I think the best episodes of Chibnall's run were often the historicals, because they usually did really well at putting the 'alien' part as a background element and instead foregrounding the actual historical parts. Demons of the Punjab, The Witchfinders and The Haunting of Villa Diodati are all honestly really strong episodes in my book, largely because they're primarily about the time or event in which it's set. You can sort of see the historical-ness draining away over Chibnall's run. Compare and contrast what someone might learn about Rosa Parks or Partition or King James' interest in witch-hunting - fragmentary and flawed though that learning may be - through the relevant episodes of season 11 - and then think what you'd actually learn about Madam Ching or Mary Seacole from their respective guest spots in the late Chibnall era. "She was a pirate" and "she ran a hospital in Crimea", and that's kind of it.
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Warthur posted:You can sort of see the historical-ness draining away over Chibnall's run. Compare and contrast what someone might learn about Rosa Parks or Partition or King James' interest in witch-hunting - fragmentary and flawed though that learning may be - through the relevant episodes of season 11 - and then think what you'd actually learn about Madam Ching or Mary Seacole from their respective guest spots in the late Chibnall era. "She was a pirate" and "she ran a hospital in Crimea", and that's kind of it. It seems like that first series is a conscious decision to make HIS who different to what came before and not make the Doctor the main story focus. And then he gives in to his 80s fandom urges and rewrites her entire backstory.
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Cleretic posted:Ironically, I think the best episodes of Chibnall's run were often the historicals, because they usually did really well at putting the 'alien' part as a background element and instead foregrounding the actual historical parts. Demons of the Punjab, The Witchfinders and The Haunting of Villa Diodati are all honestly really strong episodes in my book, largely because they're primarily about the time or event in which it's set. Hmm. Demons of the Punjab: written by Vinay Patel The Witchfinders: written by Joy Wilkinson The Haunting of Villa Diodati: written by Maxine Alderton Nikola Tesla’s Night of Terrors: written by Nina Metivier Rosa: written by Malorie Blackman and Chris Chibnall Legend of the Sea Devils: written by Ella Road and Chris Chibnall War of the Sontarans: written by Chris Chibnall It’s almost like there’s some sort of pattern…
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The first rule of Doctor Who fans is that none of us can agree on anything. For instance, the OP notes that some people enjoy Nekromanteia. I disagree
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Jerusalem posted:The first rule of Doctor Who fans is that none of us can agree on anything. For instance, the OP notes that some people enjoy Nekromanteia. I disagree I would very much like the names of anyone that enjoys that particular audio.
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