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Jobert
May 21, 2007
Come On!
College Slice
That seems like a whole lot of cat6. Could you have run some of that into dumb hubs in each room and then it's just one cable back to the brain?

I'm not sure what speed/protocol you are using of course, that would change things.

It also makes me think there must be a bulk Ethernet cable, like this monstrosity (25 Pair Cat5e), but a bit less monstrous I guess.

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DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

so you run everything in conduit

then you go ahead and ruin it by leaving them all taped together

:(

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

This is the worst thing I've seen in this thread. Who puts bananas in the fridge?


Also FWIW, they make car chargers that are setup to communicate about how much load they can draw. The usual usage is putting two of them on the same circuit, so if you've only got one plugged in you get full amperage.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
Running multiple drops of Cat6 to each room and avoiding lovely dumb hubs hanging off the wall is absolutely the correct decision.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


~Coxy posted:

Running multiple drops of Cat6 to each room and avoiding lovely dumb hubs hanging off the wall is absolutely the correct decision.

I mean, he has this whole-rear end utility run loft setup, wouldn't hurt to hang a couple hubs next to his wiring junction boxes up out of the way and run the cable down from there.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Lol Jesus Christ just hire an electrician

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

devicenull posted:

This is the worst thing I've seen in this thread. Who puts bananas in the fridge?




Also you live in England and are drinking that poo poo French beer? What’s wrong with you

Some Guy From NY
Dec 11, 2007
I work in an electrical substation that literally provides power for a few million people.

Your SINGLE FAMILY HOME is rivaling my entire station in the amount of wiring. (only partially exaggerating)

amazing.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

you've got enough copper in those walls to create an L-shaped electromagnet.

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008
Residential electrical wiring in the United Kingdom is apparently deeply weird but I don't think wiring each individual switch, fixture, and receptacle on its own home-run circuit to whatever you call the main electrical panel is the solution. Also you should have used whatever is the European equivalent to sendcutsend or oshcut to make your little 96 penetration plenum cover, a nice laser/waterjet cut piece wouldn't have gotten all bendy like what happened to your metal sheet after you shoved a ryobi into it a hundred times.

You did just fine with your amount of ethernet drops though. My parents built themselves a new house while I was in grad school a decade ago and I ran a bunch of low voltage carlon tubing to every room and later did maybe half your number of ethernet drops in them. Sure they just use wifi on their plethora of random tablets nowadays, but it's the principle right?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Now I know how Europeans feel when they look at American timber framed housing.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
You should have 3-phase power, like a real european home.

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


The amount of work you're prepared to do to have a "smart" home is mind boggling. I appreciate the HVAC system for being cool but the doors and individual power controls for all the spotlights is ridiculous and will almost certainly be incredibly clunky.

Having all the wiring in the attic space and then just dropping down vertically does seem a lot nicer than the mysterious hodge podge of cabling through various wall cavities that I've ended up with.

distortion park fucked around with this message at 07:23 on May 26, 2023

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama
So those are going to be breakered at 3A right?

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


"I'm inventing my own radials"

god bless you 99

e: if you ever sell this place I would pay to see the look on the face of the electrician the new owners hire to check the place out

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---

Party Boat posted:

"I'm inventing my own radials"

god bless you 99

e: if you ever sell this place I would pay to see the look on the face of the electrician the new owners hire to check the place out

Maybe we get to see the look on the face of the elektrician he'll contact to sign off on this?

shut up blegum fucked around with this message at 12:14 on May 26, 2023

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Here's a preview

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
More of a :

:hmmno:

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


It's a good thing you've installed all those smart ventilation systems, otherwise you'd be in danger of asphyxiation when he sucks all the air in the room in through his teeth

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


NotJustANumber99 posted:


Ah! but my new even more radial radial avoids this. I will utilise my loft space as an area I am prepared to put accessible junction boxes in. Run 4mm wire from plant room consumer unit to 3 junction boxes, then disperse from there in 2.5mm to each socket/ appliance as necessary. Not a ring so no need to return and there should be no confusion for future morons trying to adapt things as any investigations would reveal a non ringed 2.5mm apparent spur. Plus it will all be documented properly like a new build house should be in the house manual.



removes like up to 2/3rds of bulk of wiring. should really have thought/done this before.

Did you re-run the calculations for the shared neutrals? The live is still going to have 1 fixture's worth of power, but your now-ring-in-that-spur neutral is going to have 3.
I don't know specifically how your fixtures are wired, but I presume the neutrals won't be in series, right?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


NotJustANumber99 posted:

I need like probably 60 plus penetrations which doesnt seem easy.

(Like this isnt porn. i guess some people might get off on it)

...

gently caress me.

:thunk:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Whole thread is just Grand Designs for people into edging

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

~Coxy posted:

Running multiple drops of Cat6 to each room and avoiding lovely dumb hubs hanging off the wall is absolutely the correct decision.

I really don't think anyone is suggesting hanging switches on interior walls, but having switches in utility spaces as close as possible to the area that they'll serve.
Either way, no one needs this much ethernet.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


kylo ren more .gif

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I’m genuinely interested in what the electrician has to say as I was told very clearly that they don’t like signing off other people’s work, but that’s just hearsay so far.

Also my house has nearly a kilometre of cat 7a, though fewer drops and bigger house. Like if you’re going to do it might as well overdo it.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Individually addressing 36 spotlights is all well and good, but if you really want to have complete lighting control then you'll want to get them on little motors so you can adjust their direction too.

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


I really hope it all works out in the end, it's going to be a very nicely fitted out house and so far the design seems promising.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


big scary monsters posted:

Individually addressing 36 spotlights is all well and good, but if you really want to have complete lighting control then you'll want to get them on little motors so you can adjust their direction too.

Why would he be running individual power and ethernet just to have a bunch of DMX lighting?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Why would he be running individual power and ethernet just to have a bunch of DMX lighting?

That's just how the Ruff Ryders roll.

Most people use smart home stuff so they don't need to home run power or HVAC all the way back to the central control area. Looking forward to the full stage lighting setup though.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

El Mero Mero posted:

you've got enough copper in those walls to create an L-shaped electromagnet.

He's gonna get it all wired up, turn the lights and ethernet on and the electromagnetic force is gonna cause the two opposite ends of the L pull towards each other and rearrange the floor plan to a U-shape.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
It's gonna be fun when you learn that guy on ebay sold you defective cable.

Paper Tiger
Jun 17, 2007

🖨️🐯torn apart by idle hands

goatface posted:

It's gonna be fun when you learn that guy on ebay sold you defective cable.

99's gonna etch his complaint about the bad copper into his house, it'll stay standing for thousands of years and the ebay guy will be the next Ea Nasir

E: Ebay Nasir

Paper Tiger fucked around with this message at 20:56 on May 26, 2023

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Look upon my works, ye sparky, twisted pair

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he



:dudsmile:

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

Paper Tiger posted:


E: Ebay Nasir

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

WhatEvil posted:

He's gonna get it all wired up, turn the lights and ethernet on and the electromagnetic force is gonna cause the two opposite ends of the L pull towards each other and rearrange the floor plan to a U-shape.
The real reason for the foundation is finally revealed

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Paper Tiger posted:

E: Ebay Nasir

:tviv:

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Jaded Burnout posted:

Look upon my works, ye sparky, twisted pair

Nice

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

goatface posted:

It's gonna be fun when you learn that guy on ebay sold you defective cable.

I have faith in njan99 and imagine he invested in a cable tester before laying 18km of ethernet.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
padme_anakin.jpg : "you invested in a cable tester right?"

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