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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Mooseontheloose posted:

Trump directly bombed Iran.

And directly assassinated a Major General of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Feb 3, 2024

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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

STAC Goat posted:

It’s kind of impressive that “Donald the Dove” remains alive as a concept.

It's impressive that it even became a concept after his declaration that we should "kill ISIS members and their families"

Now it's just insane that it still exists as a concept 8 years after that

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Finally, some policy specifics out of this election cycle that is shockingly light on policy specifics. Unfortunately, it is pretty horrible policy.

*the dumbest poo poo imaginable follows*

And yet somehow the citizens of the US and their goldfish memory think Trump/Republicans are better on the economy.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

If you're in one of those categories, then $6 trillion in tax cuts will do a lot to smooth out a roughly 13.8% increase in prices.

That is about $87,000 per year less in taxes for the top 1% vs. a roughly $47 higher average grocery bill.

Also, according to the Trump campaign economists, deregulation, unleashing American energy production, and the corporate tax cuts will supercharge the economy and raise incomes to combat that price increase. So, it is slightly unfair to say that those policies will result in a 13.8% real income decrease for the average person since there will likely be a non-zero amount they "get back" in tax cuts or economic growth. Although, most of the tax cuts for lower-income households come from making the existing Trump tax cuts permanent, so that isn't actually a net change from right now and is just a net change against a hypothetical 2026 where the tax rates go up.

Still, it is likely going to result in a real income decrease for most people unless the supercharged economy from those policies performs above all expectations and estimates to an astonishing degree. It is also going to depend on your spending habits and what industry you work in as well. It isn't going to be totally evenly distributed in impact.

There's no way prices are going to go down in any appreciable way, when companies are already making continuously increasing profits and then they get another tax cut on top of that.

Failed Imagineer posted:

The median new American car weighs half a tonne more than a European car. That would be worth a lol if it didn't directly mean a whole lot of kids getting their skulls crushed.

That's mostly because Europe doesn't think "douchenozzle truck bro" is a market worth cartering to, thankfully.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I agree that it is almost never going to really happen again, but it is still pretty striking.

Despite her (and her husband's) repeated and wild negligence, she is probably correct that basically no mother assumes that their kid is going to become a mass murderer and acts with that information in mind. It is extremely rare to hold parents criminally responsible for almost anything their minor child does, let alone multiple manslaughter charges that can carry a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

There's a big loving difference between "assuming one's kid becomes a school shooter" and "repeatedly ignores all red flags to the point of giving him a gun and advice to hide the bullets better".

If mental healthcare wasn't stigmatized in this country this kid might have been able to get some help before he ended up shooting people, but we're not going to know that because his parents failed him.

And until the majority of parents aren't weighted down by Reagan-era demonization of mental health and mental illness, there is only a matter of time before this happens again.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

haveblue posted:


This was posted two years ago. How is he still doing this today

The same way James O'Keefe was able to. Two different justice systems and/or the support of someone with money and influence.

Somehow even worse considering Wohl is already a convicted felon guilty of telecommunications fraud and yet is still doing this poo poo.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

haveblue posted:

I feel like ruling that children are identical to adults and may not receive special treatment or abridgment of rights under the law may have some repercussions

Your mistake is thinking Florida has a problem defining a fetus as a natural person but a child is not.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 7, 2024

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

"We tried to cheat by it turns out we're incompetent at even that now"

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

zoux posted:

Yeah the dipshit thing was Johnson holding a vote that he either didn't count noses on or was so close that he was reckless in holding it, given his insane caucus. Just from a legislating perspective, the House GOP has no idea what it's doing.

And Marjorie Taylor Greene is now convinced there are secret democrat votes that just exist because she can't count.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

I feel like I'm missing some context here.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Dapper_Swindler posted:

his pick got crushed in the primary by some weird moron who basicaly read /pol/ posts i believe. Like i think he can pull of a primary win and could probably win the general but i think he will lose to some maga weirdo.

Also he probably isn't winning a primary based on the fact that he took COVID-19 seriously.

EDIT: Also if he does make it through the primary he might have to answer more questions about Roy McGrath, his former chief of staff who was indicted on wire fraud, misconduct in office, and improper use of state funds, which led to a manhunt that ended in April of last year when he tried to Budd Dwyer himself after a police chase. It's inconclusive as to whether or not his self-inflicted gunshot wound or the one inflicted by the FBI agent was the fatal shot.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 9, 2024

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

bird food bathtub posted:

I will give him the credit he doesn't deserve, he was one of the last of a dying breed of Republicans that weren't in the party for the express purposes of cheering on fascism. He didn't hide his -R, but he did actually speak out against Trump. gently caress him and I hope he fucks off as I still knocked on doors for his opponent because he is on team -R instead of coming clean and renouncing them but he was no Boebert or Greene.

The bar to being a Boebert or Greene is so low that you paradoxically have to try really hard to be that much of a fascist toady.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah, when anyone does some poo poo that is completely inexplicable the answer is often stupidity and/or hella drugs

It's quite obvious that MtG is incredibly stupid.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

mawarannahr posted:

As I already mentioned, it has to be evaluated in the context of his umbrage vis-a-vis the well-known reliability issues for a system that is operating on water.

Or we could evaluate it based on other, similar statements he's made vis-a-vis technology such as:
1. Clean Coal exists
2. The F-35 is literally invisible.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

mawarannahr posted:

OK. Do you think when he said those it was due to age-related cognitive impairment?

That's immaterial to the point you're making that "magnets get wet = magnetic catapult stop working = trump is somehow correct"

When it's obvious that he knows jack loving poo poo. Or to put it another way:


Fart Amplifier posted:

Trump claims that magnets stop working if you put them in a glass of water and this has people arguing about magnetic catapults like Trump has the foggiest idea

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

RealityWarCriminal posted:

Trump is generally anti- foreign aid. Israel would not be able to do what it is doing without continued American support.


In 2018 he approved the largest ever military aid package for Israel (up to that point) as part of that year's NDAA. He also never significantly cut aid to Israel during his presidency.

Also while US aid consists of up to 15% of Israel's defense budget, and that's not a small amount, it still leaves 85% for Israel to commit war crimes with.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 11, 2024

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Xiahou Dun posted:



It's unintuitive but not difficult. That's exactly what education is for. We could solve (or at least massively reduce) this with a minor update to the middle school curriculum.

Cue the usual suspects of the right wing screaming about teaching our kids gambling in schools.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

koolkal posted:

IIRC Newsmax pivoted away from election fraud claims after they received a bunch of lawsuits, similar to Fox

And then they kept having the mypillow guy on and had to keep cutting his mic every time he talked because of it.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Aztec Galactus posted:

I had someone very close to me pass away and I can never remember which year it was because those next couple of years are a blur caused by emotional distress

Both my grandmothers passed away within days of each other and I also cannot remember what year that was.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Senate Cum Dump posted:


Instead the rich people uploaded themselves into robo-brains. So we should probably make sure the Peoples' Bunker Breaching Brigades are equipped with EMPs or similar to disable Neuralinks and other devices.

Knowing Elon you can probably just disable a Neuralink with a consumer-grade microwave oven.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
It feels weird to ask this but how much of this whole "no primary to the incumbent" sentiment is also couched in the disaster that was the 1980 election when you had people like Ted Kennedy try to primary Carter and that, among many other things, eventually leading to 12 years of GOP control of the executive branch?

Granted that was over 40 years ago and I don't know how that would factor in at all, other than a lot of higher-up Democrats back then are still around.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

haveblue posted:

Killing Hitler 2 changed the timeline so they also had to kill Hitlers 3 and 4 before it stuck

Actually killing Hitler 2 would've resulted in Stalin 2 taking over most of Europe so they had to remove them, as seen in the documentary Command & Conquer: Red Alert.

The third incident was a result of Neo Soviet counteragents attempting to remove Einstein 2 from the timeline.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

DeadlyMuffin posted:

Only if the difference is because of who is in the chair.

Do you think the Palestinian body count would have been lower 2016-now if Trump had remained in power? It seems like this is what you're trying to imply without actually saying it.

Also reminder, Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and tore up the Iran deal.

Both of those decisions helped cause what is happening now.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Those both contributed to a lot of instability in the region, but the thing that caused the current conflict is that Hamas launched an attack that killed 1,400 Israeli civilians. Unless Trump had a hand in planning that, then I don't think you can really blame him directly for the current conflict.

While this is true, I was thinking that moving the embassy increased tension. Tearing up the Iran deal (and assassinating Qasem Soleimani) severely damaged diplomatic channels between the US and Iran. Iran backs Hamas. I'm not saying if the Iran Deal was still in place that it might be easier to reach a ceasefire or peace deal, but it certainly didn't help matters that it was no longer around. I admit I am doing a lot of speculating here and probably am outside of the realm of just USCE talk.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:



Last year, she said they need to "restore consequentiality to sex" by banning abortion and birth control to make women think twice about having casual sex.

She also says that the only way to stop casual sex and return sex to its "true purpose" is to "restore the danger to sex for women."


Just saying the quiet part out loud now. Not that there was ever any doubt that the anti-choice people were always lying about why they wanted to ban abortion.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Raenir Salazar posted:

Honestly the sooner we can properly age gate the internet the better.

the operative word here is "properly" and so far nobody's actually trying to do that. Neither is this bill.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Young Freud posted:

Apparently, this guy's a first time state senator who was previously a owner-operator truck driver who ripped off a Native American mechanic and got punched out by him at a car show. He won his seat unopposed after winning the Republican primary. Also, he was still collecting campaign funds, despite no opposition candidate, up until election day to pay off liens and debts. Dude is absolute filth.
https://nondoc.com/2022/08/31/senator-elect-tom-woods-punched-in-face/

Wow it's like a bingo card of worst conservative bullshit ever.


Sarcastro posted:

I've enjoyed, from time to time, looking up the "lives in" location of someone on FB who tells me or someone similarly situated that we "live in a bubble." Invariably it's someone living in a town of 2,000 in a county of 20,000 (98% white, obviously), speaking to those of us who live in a metro area with eight million.

I have an acquaintance, who, in the depths of the Trump insanity, once asked me what "flyover country" was. I explained in basic terms what it meant (essentially the sparsely-populated middle areas of the country) and they, aghast, called it such a horrifying elitist term.

Said acquaintance grew up in the wealthiest mid-size city in the country (Pleasanton, CA). He didn't even live in anywhere that would be close to "flyover country" until a year or two ago (which funny enough was when they stopped being so goddamn chuddy). It's like Ben Shapiro calling people who go to college elitists when he's a graduate from loving UCLA and Harvard.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 24, 2024

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

The only thing I will remember about her is how she stopped using the Romney name because Trump loving hated Romney’s guts

Another in the long line of people who debased themselves for Trump and got nothing in return for it.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Velocity Raptor posted:

You're instinct looks to be right. They didn't pay $18m to get the documents back. It was a settlement for claims that the Watergate tapes and other materials that were seized without compensation. And even then, 6m of that was for improvements to the Nixon Library.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-jun-13-mn-40455-story.html

Isn't this also what led to the Presidential Records Act being created?

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

This is probably because the California GOP is almost completely moribund. The Dems control all eight statewide offices, both senate seats, the mayoralties of every large and medium city, and the congressional delegation is 40-11. The CA Republican party is so pointless that the state chamber of commerce stopped donating to it a decade ago.

Running a recall election is pretty much the only thing the CA Reps can do to get noticed or have even a sliver of a chance of gaining some power (it worked in 2003, giving us 1.5 terms of Gov. Schwarzeneggar).

I'ts worth pointing out that before 2003 it had been tried with 7 of the nine previous governors up to that point. Davis is the only one it succeeded with.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

And it gives me a security warning when I try to view the team page just like I'd expect from a site talking about (Bernie) Porn :v:

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

FizFashizzle posted:

lol you can barely get WIC for your children in Alabama.

Seriously, Alabama cares more about a frozen embryo than they do an actual living, breathing human being.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone".

I guess in my mind Angels and Demons are different from regular monsters? Like, I can understand wanting to capture Bigfoot or Nessie for science, but the Bible makes it very clear that messing around with Angels is a bad idea.

Nobody in the GOP has read any part of the Bible in almost 100 years.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Dapper_Swindler posted:

the american evangelical psycho poo poo.

Patrick Bateman pointing at a Bible and asking Paul if he ever read 2nd Corinthians.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
Does Rick Scott even have enough people in congress who like tolerate him enough to male a run at leadership?

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Jesus III posted:

There is only proof of life on one planet.

That we currently know of as of this time on March 1, 2024

1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. And right now we know that we're alone in this universe. Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Blue Footed Booby posted:

It's a quote from Men in Black.

The worst part is I knew someone would point that out and yet I didn't bother to correct it with something more accurate. Oh well :v:

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Professor Beetus posted:

It was also an extraordinary circumstance that hadn't been seen for roughly 100 years and required a drastic response, and Republicans still fought to make the government response shittier. That all that happened was in spite of Trump being in office, not because of it. A hypothetical response under President Clinton would probably have been just as helpful, if not more so.

Hypothetical President Clinton wouldn't have (or most likely wouldn't have) dismantled/fired the entire pandemic response team whose job it was to research and be ready for the next big pandemic. Something that Donald Trump did and is why, among other reasons, he bears some of the responsibility of COVID-19 becoming the pandemic it became.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Mar 4, 2024

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Okuteru posted:


Also, the whole Central Park Five thing

Yeah it really can't be restated enough that Donald Trump took out a full-page newspaper ad calling for the Central Park Five to be executed.

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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Reminder that one of the very early tenants of the Proud Boys, which they pretend never existed these days, was that wiping your rear end was unacceptably homoerotic.

Shoving dildos up your rear end to own the libs however is not unacceptably homoerotic, at least according to Proud Boys founder and Terrorist Leader Gavin McInnes.

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