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Muffinpox posted:I was going to quote your post and say "Not with an IRS, but a log" but gently caress. I wouldn't be surprised to see in in the 2014 model year as the 50th anniversary Mustang with some extra horsepower, probably a lot more than what we saw in 2013. I'm guessing we'll see direct injection at some point before the complete redesign.
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As soon as they ditch the retro styling and add IRS they'll have guys like me coming over from other brands. The only decision for me will be whether or not to get the turbo model.
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I just realized that I could afford a '13 Boss 302 if I didn't mind not really buying any other toys until I get a raise. UNNGGGHH. GOTTA. HAVE IT. GREEN. Unfortunately my other hobbies are also expensive-- shooting, skiing, skiing, dirtbiking.
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Test drove a 2013 auto and manual today, both base models. Wasn't very impressed with the auto and neither had as much low end torque as I was expecting. Maybe I'm imagining things but it seemed like my 04 cobra pulled harder from a stop. They also didn't seem willing to sell for 29k, when the MSRP on both cars was like 32 and change. \/ Not so much surprised as disappointed that the 5.0 wasn't as close as I was hoping it would be. AWWNAW fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 9, 2012 |
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Jun 9, 2012 19:22
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AWWNAW posted:Test drove a 2013 auto and manual today, both base models. Wasn't very impressed with the auto and neither had as much low end torque as I was expecting. Maybe I'm imagining things but it seemed like my 04 cobra pulled harder from a stop. They also didn't seem willing to sell for 29k, when the MSRP on both cars was like 32 and change. Yes, your factory supercharged Cobra made more torque down low. This shouldn't be much of a surprise.
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AWWNAW posted:Test drove a 2013 auto and manual today, both base models. Wasn't very impressed with the auto and neither had as much low end torque as I was expecting. Maybe I'm imagining things but it seemed like my 04 cobra pulled harder from a stop. They also didn't seem willing to sell for 29k, when the MSRP on both cars was like 32 and change. https://www.costcoauto.com What gear ratio did your cars have? The manual can be 3.31, 3.55, or 3.73.
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coolskillrex remix posted:https://www.costcoauto.com Neither had the upgraded ratio, pretty sure the manual was 3.31. AWWNAW fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 10, 2012 |
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Jun 10, 2012 01:50
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Road_Warrior posted:Control Blade is a cheap arse IRS unit adapted from a bum-dragger at the last minute for the BA Falcon because Phil Martens and Ford Australia couldnt agree on the mounting arrangement, amongst other things. It's penchant for making GBS threads carrier bushes and its stamped steel construction rules it out somewhat for Euro and US customers who won't really tolerate that sort of rubbish. The FG should have ditched it but because Detroit pulled the plug on the Global Rear Wheel Drive program, Ford AU had to go it alone and use the CB IRS due to lack of funds to develop another. The forged alloy double wishbone front suspension setup with virtual pivot is the only thing that made it through from the GRWD program. Or so I thought...
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AWWNAW posted:Test drove a 2013 auto and manual today, both base models. Wasn't very impressed with the auto and neither had as much low end torque as I was expecting. That's the only thing I'm disappointed with on my '11 automatic GT. The 3.15 axle ratio, plus the electronic throttle body, plus whatever torque management is there, plus a torque curve that isn't great under 3000 RPM... the combination all adds up to a car that doesn't feel very strong off the line. My LT1 and LS1 cars launched harder, and were way easier to do burnouts/donuts/powerslides.
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Number_6 posted:That's the only thing I'm disappointed with on my '11 automatic GT. The 3.15 axle ratio, plus the electronic throttle body, plus whatever torque management is there, plus a torque curve that isn't great under 3000 RPM... the combination all adds up to a car that doesn't feel very strong off the line. My LT1 and LS1 cars launched harder, and were way easier to do burnouts/donuts/powerslides.
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Slow is Fast posted:Dumb question time. Anyone? Apparently the car has a 4.0 v6. Rock auto doesn't have any obvious tps switches or sensors that stand out on me. I'll have to troll the mustang sewers of the net to see what I can dredge up.
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Slow is Fast posted:Anyone? Apparently the car has a 4.0 v6. Rock auto doesn't have any obvious tps switches or sensors that stand out on me. I'll have to troll the mustang sewers of the net to see what I can dredge up. Yeah it's the 4.0 sohc, same engine as is found in the explorer and ranger. It's drive-by-wire in this application so I'm guessing the P2135 is referring to the sensor on the pedal itself. I believe that would be the "Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor" on rockauto under "Body-Interior." P2106 is probably a symptom of P2135. I'm not sure though--I've never seen that particular code before. I've never seen a problem with any DBW system before, actually. I would seek a second opinion before throwing a $100 part at it. You may want to try taking the pedal assembly part, cleaning it all, and putting it back together.
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lazer_chicken posted:Yeah it's the 4.0 sohc, same engine as is found in the explorer and ranger. It's drive-by-wire in this application so I'm guessing the P2135 is referring to the sensor on the pedal itself. I believe that would be the "Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor" on rockauto under "Body-Interior." P2106 is probably a symptom of P2135. I'm not sure though--I've never seen that particular code before. I've never seen a problem with any DBW system before, actually. I would seek a second opinion before throwing a $100 part at it. Taking something apart and cleaning it is rarely bad advice, assuming that you actually know how to do that.
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Slow is Fast posted:Anyone? Apparently the car has a 4.0 v6. Rock auto doesn't have any obvious tps switches or sensors that stand out on me. I'll have to troll the mustang sewers of the net to see what I can dredge up. More than likely a dirty throttle body/connection.
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Apparently Inside Line thinks the ZL1 is better than the new GT500.quote:1st Place: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Full disclosure: I haven't read the article because it's almost 6AM and I haven't slept yet, but I just cannot believe anyone could write those summaries unless GM threw a giant sack of cash at them. I'm not even so much upset because I'm something of a Mustang fanboy (I am), but because, from all the literature I've read, the Zeta chassis is a fat piece of poo poo.
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Doesn't the ZL1 have magnetorheological dampers? I could see how that could lead to a conclusion of "multitalented chassis" vs normal dampers.
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sliderule posted:Doesn't the ZL1 have magnetorheological dampers? I could see how that could lead to a conclusion of "multitalented chassis" vs normal dampers. Yeah I think the ZL1 borrows suspension tech from the high end Zo6/ZR1. Its good stuff. Shame its wasted on the camaro. Ive never driven one but ive sat in one and it feels like a nightmare in terms of visibility.
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coolskillrex remix posted:Yeah I think the ZL1 borrows suspension tech from the high end Zo6/ZR1. Its good stuff. I'm half convinced they actually wanted to limit visibility as much as possible, because it seems very unlikely that the outward visibility could be that bad by simple chance.
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It took me about a week of driving it before I got used to it. Once I got my mirrors adjusted properly I never had an issue.
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It Finally Happened! 6-14-2012 5:04pm, After 12 years of ownership My 2001 mustang (purchased Aug 2000) has finally made it to 22,222.2 miles. That is roughly 1851.85 miles driven each year.
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Dick Burglar posted:Full disclosure: I haven't read the article because it's almost 6AM and I haven't slept yet, but I just cannot believe anyone could write those summaries unless GM threw a giant sack of cash at them. I'm not even so much upset because I'm something of a Mustang fanboy (I am), but because, from all the literature I've read, the Zeta chassis is a fat piece of poo poo. A heavier car Camaro managed to effortlessly outrun the GT500 despite having substantially less horsepower. How is that not a clear victory for the Camaro? They even reiterated at some point in the article that the GT is still their pick over the SS, but whatever Chevy did to the ZL1 was an amazing feat. If you haven't seen the video of the ZL1 lapping Nueburgring, definitely check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWFP6LM-_q8
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But it is heavier and has less horsepower so it is crap. Am I right?
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Hey now, can't we all just get along? I miss the good old days when everyone hated on ze Germans.
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Elephanthead posted:But it is heavier and has less horsepower so it is crap. Am I right? Gotta have it factor finds a way.
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Also even without fancy suspension the camaro probably would have beat a live axle in backroads, which typically are pretty bumpy affairs. If you take the cars for track days, then put a stiffer FRPP suspension and i imagine the camaro would have trouble keeping up. 200 lbs lighter, 90 more horses does mean something in the right environment.
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Elephanthead posted:But it is heavier and has less horsepower so it is crap. Am I right? Like I said when I linked it, I hadn't read the article before I posted it, so I didn't realize the ZL1 out-lapped the GT500. But hey, don't let details like that get in the way of making SICK BURNS, right brah? Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jun 15, 2012 |
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Dick Burglar posted:But hey, don't let details like that get in the way of making SICK BURNS, right brah? I wouldn't take it personally, that poo poo seems to be happening all over A.I. lately.
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No one buys a GT500 because they want to go turn some awesome laps times in it.
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frozenphil posted:No one buys a GT500 because they want to go turn some awesome laps times in it. Exactly, most of us buy them to do sweet burnouts in the parking lot when leaving work.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:Exactly, most of us buy them to do sweet burnouts in the parking lot when leaving work. That or so they have something to prop those creepy crying little kid dolls against at a car show.
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I haven't posted in AI in years, back when I was still working on modding my deceased 1999 GT hardtop, however, I recently inherited a 1971 Mustang Boss 351 w/ sport roof. It's completely original, with the original paint, glass, interior and everything else. Although, the engine was swapped with a clone taken out of a wrecked 351 we discovered in Mississippi back in 1999. The stock original motor is sitting pickled in Marvel Mystery Oil in a crate, waiting for someone to fix whatever was wrong with it (I honestly don't remember what the problem was). From the dealership, this Boss came with a 3:91 rear diff, 4 speed transmission, Hurst shifter and the block is 351 "R" 4V. Well, I should say both engines are 351 "R" 4Vs. Anyway, this Boss has a really weird quirk in its history. The car is white, and was bought that way from the dealership in Oklahoma in 1971. However, when I sent the VIN# into Ford to get the history of the car, it turns out that when the car rolled off the assembly line in Dearborn on 4/1/71 that it was grabber blue. The car also has a couple of other weird quirks that aren't consistent with Boss 351s. The steering wheel is a two-spoke and the "351 RAM AIR" labeling on the hood is incorrect, because it should just say "RAM AIR." Does anyone have any insight on how a car changes color between its trip from the factory to the dealer's lot? I have been trying to figure this out, but to no avail. My dad purchased the car and was the second owner. The original owner never had it painted. Actually, while I was typing this I found my car on Google Image Search, where it was actually featured in a "Hot Cars" series of pamphlets you coule receive by mail. I actually found its photo spread in that publication. Yes, this car is sitting in my garage back home:  So if anyone has any insight whatsoever, I would really appreciate it. I'm trying to find the next step to finish completing the car's full history. Doronin fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jun 16, 2012 |
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There are all kinds of weird things done to these cars on the assembly line back then. Your best bet is going to be contacting someone like Donald Farr (donald.farr@sorc.com), Jim Smart (thesmart67@msn.com), or Mustang Monthly (mustang.monthly@sorc.com) and asking them if they have any info for you. Be sure to give them all the info you have as they love digging into interesting cars, especially special ones like the BOSS. These guys have some amazing contacts.
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Oh man, would you mind posting pictures of the car when you get a chance? The Boss 351 is my all-time favorite Mustang, hands down.
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frozenphil posted:There are all kinds of weird things done to these cars on the assembly line back then. Your best bet is going to be contacting someone like Donald Farr (donald.farr@sorc.com), Jim Smart (thesmart67@msn.com), or Mustang Monthly (mustang.monthly@sorc.com) and asking them if they have any info for you. Be sure to give them all the info you have as they love digging into interesting cars, especially special ones like the BOSS. These guys have some amazing contacts. Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate it. I'll definitely reach out to those guys and see if they have any idea how the car made a drastic color change with inconsistent changes made to other parts before it was available for anyone to purchase. Only 1,806 Boss 351s were ever built, so it's touch to get consistent info on this thing.
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Q_res posted:Oh man, would you mind posting pictures of the car when you get a chance? The Boss 351 is my all-time favorite Mustang, hands down. The one in that photo spread I posted is actually my car. Those pictures were taken at a studio in Beverly Hills before my dad bought it in early 1998, and I have the original studio shots in a strongbox in the closet. If I can get my scanner working, I'd be happy to put up some pictures of it from some of the car shows we entered it in.
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Well, I got a nail stuck right smack dab in the center of my tire so out came the "tire inflation kit" that I got instead of a spare. Surprisingly, it worked pretty well. Not as well as a goddamn spare tire, but I'm running around on a ghetto sealed tire with a nail in it until I can get to the tire shop. A+ would puncture again.
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Rabble posted:Well, I got a nail stuck right smack dab in the center of my tire so out came the "tire inflation kit" that I got instead of a spare. Surprisingly, it worked pretty well. Not as well as a goddamn spare tire, but I'm running around on a ghetto sealed tire with a nail in it until I can get to the tire shop. I pity the poor bastard that's going to have to work on your tire.
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MikeyTsi posted:I pity the poor bastard that's going to have to work on your tire. Discount Tire already fixed it, didn't even charge me for it which was rather nice. It's not my fault that it came with a tire pump instead of a spare, but I think the ford stuff was pretty easy to clean considering it didn't even gently caress up my TMPS sensor.
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Lol I dropped from 5th gear to 4th at 45 MPH to beat a yellow light, I fukken chirped the tires just from that. That's the first muscle car thing I've done
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Lol I dropped from 5th gear to 4th at 45 MPH to beat a yellow light, I fukken chirped the tires just from that. That's the first muscle car thing I've done I squealed the tires on a parking ramp at Whole Foods; first time I've had to do an uphill start, and it wasn't the same as my old Mirage.
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