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rotor posted:eclipse is poo poo made by the unholy combination of academics, open sores shitheads and IBM please stop tiny bu-- shagga-- rotor?!
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HineyBorelTheorem posted:esperanto is the platonic ideal of language, imo
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eclipse is useful for StatET, not much else
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there's places where eclipse is the least awful thing, but java developemt isn't one of them.
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Casao posted:yeah it's really hard to beat cpan for this poo poo i just did oauth for 5 different providers using the standard ruby gems and it was fairly painless as far as these things go
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i have the worst of eclipse every day. its not eclipse. its a house developed app that used eclipse in its entirety as a base and built upon that to make an app nothing like eclipse in function
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Sniep posted:i have the worst of eclipse every day. there should be laws against making software like this
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Jul 17, 2012 04:12
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http://chaoscollective.org/projects/builtinspace.html https://vimeo.com/45314708 looks cool
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catchin' up.tef posted:linguistic prescriptivists
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Sniep posted:i have the worst of eclipse every day. i shudder to think what dark incantations were used in the development process.
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Jul 17, 2012 04:18
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rotor posted:there should be laws against making software like this its like someone googled "what is a modular extensible multiplatform application +open source" and came up with eclipse and saw java and said "perfect! we got some people who know the java!" and history of bad applications was written
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Jul 17, 2012 04:19
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eclipse is deffo the best ide. intellij sucks and you have to make up for its suckatude w/ terrible shell scripts.
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Jul 17, 2012 04:41
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Jul 17, 2012 04:42
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Shaggar posted:eclipse is deffo the best ide. intellij sucks and you have to make up for its suckatude w/ terrible shell scripts. just look at this wrong post. IntelliJ is gods own IDE. (it's why the world is hosed [god is a programmer {programmers are awful}])
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Jul 17, 2012 05:12
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Jul 17, 2012 05:24
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Sulk posted:in before "java owns --shagger" but based on the little bit of looking at them I've done, java's docs seem to be just so much loving better and more organized than pretty much everything else out there as to the ideas behind javadoc, im not a huge fan of it. it fills up your code with html-ridden usage-based documentation, if you're reading the source code you want to know what's going on with the internals, having the amount of stuff you can see on screen (assuming you're not autohiding all javadoc comments in your awesome ide) is severely reduced because each javadoc block is 50+ lines of shiiiiiiit. i want to see internal documentation that describes the implementation strategy and wtf the internal variables do, having to glaze over loving reams of html containing largely duplicated comments (where 5 variants of method doX() have almost word for word blurbs filling up the screen inflating your .java file sizes) is antithetical to code clarity.
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homercles posted:android's (downloadable) javadoc (http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html - though i preferred their previous less flashy incarnation) is ace. the default javadoc generates unnavigable poo poo that looks like it was designed by an unimaginative monkey in ~1993, the android version where each class autocompletes at the top-right of the page is neat. also javadoc makes you insert HTML instead of little tags like yard lol
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javadoc was a loving revelation when it was first introduced
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altho I guess that might have had more to do with widespread acceptance of html than anything special about javadoc
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gently caress vim go emacs
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Gogey posted:gently caress ... emacs
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Jul 17, 2012 07:26
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someone just mad they cant send mail while codin
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i try to keep rms-derived software out of my life
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rotor posted:javadoc was a loving revelation when it was first introduced old geezer rotor "lemme tell ya bout the first javadocs..."
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rotor posted:javadoc was a loving revelation when it was first introduced
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rotor posted:keep using it until such time as you're actually making money off it then swap it out for something legal being able to make money off it isn't the issue; it's just the principle of the thing i just don't wanna use CC-NA-FARTS instead of the MIT license I always use :s e: wow i need to not post before 7am ("i need to not post," etc) abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Gogey posted:gently caress vim go emacs I'm curious how it feels being the worst kind of person.
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Gogey posted:gently caress vim go emacs Look at you with your hilarious 'edgy' opinions we get it youre different
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Emacs is just superior, get over it.
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Jul 17, 2012 14:28
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oh boy oh boy let's talk about text editors!!!
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Anal Tributary posted:oh boy oh boy let's talk about text editors!!! vim or st2 in vintage mode anyone have a printable cheat sheet for vim that doesn't look like this: http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.pdf
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there are no good linux text editors. they all suck. vim is poo poo and emacs is poo poo
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Shaggar posted:there are no good linux text editors. they all suck. vim is poo poo and emacs is poo poo
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fidel sarcastro posted:vim or st2 in vintage mode http://i.bf1c.us/vim-cheat-sheet.pdf
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EDIT.COM
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fidel sarcastro posted:vim or st2 in vintage mode  and yea ST2 in vintage mode is what I usually use.
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i use the hell out of ST2 and i should probably switch it over to vintage mode i don't really know how to chain vim commands together, but i know enough memorized shortcuts i can do stuff like usual, if occasionally slower
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do vimtutor and poo poo, its worth it to learn how to do that stuff, makes a lot of repeated tasks way easier. ST2 vintage defaults to starting in insert mode anyway so you can pretend it isn't there for the most part if you are lame. I changed it to default to normal mode ofc.
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Vim is great. I tried to type in some text and now my whole computer is in Arabic.
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