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Reminds me of the (IMHO) dated and cheesy analog clock found on Lexuses... What are the Dashboard designers thinking -- or smoking?
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CornHolio posted:I didn't mind the center-mounted speedo in our '03, but it was easy to read at a glance. Between the glare, tiny font and tiny amount of visible needle, that doesn't seem to be the case with the newer ones. What the hell, Mini?  The new model MINI will be out within a year anyway, and that doesn't have the center mount speedo. There's still a huge circle in the middle, it's just housing the radio/nav. You can sort of see it here: http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2013-mini-cooper-s-spy-shots_100394924_l.jpg
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Residency Evil posted:I dunno, they definitely "decontented" the current MK6, previous MK5s, etc. I can definitely see things like LED tails getting omitted again. I meant like "cheaper interior" and "cheaper suspension" stuff not the usual "we don't get exactly the same features"
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:I actually forget that I have the huge-rear end center one sometimes since I have a digital speed readout on the tac. The only major gripe I have about my Mini's interior is that I can't easily put the windows up or down if I have a large drink in the cupholders. Very true. It's truly a German car. Every German car I've ever been in has had useless cup holders.
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Sep 30, 2012 03:43
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Then where the hell do they put their big gulps when they're applying makeup and texting on the autobahn? I'll never understand those crazy Germans.
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Aurune posted:Very true. It's truly a German car. Every German car I've ever been in has had useless cup holders. I thought this was just my car. Jesus Christ. I honestly would rather have had them just block off the cupholder tray than put that trash in.
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Sep 30, 2012 05:08
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My 1-series has two cupholders. They are both way too small, and the second one is blocked off by the armrest so you can't actually fit anything in them. I heard a good story about one of Ze Germans - their American product planning team had been clamoring for cupholders for years. Finally, the Germans caved and put a cupholder in. They were very proud and excited and sent over lots of pictures of the one (1) cupholder with a can of soda in it. Product planning asks them "what about bottles and Big Gulps and things like that?" which is received with completely blank stares. So the product planning team just started fedexing containers that they found back to Germany with the note "This has to fit in your cupholder." It evidently didn't work that well, Germans still can't do cupholders.
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Sep 30, 2012 15:01
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I took the cupholders OUT of my BMW E46 330 and replaced it with a eurotray because I pretty much only drink out of bottles with caps on them that can easily be tossed into a backpack....and yeah, they sucked anyway and if you have a MT, anything taller than a half can will get in your way. There are also insulated travel bottles with screwtops on them as well that you can put coffee in. If you feel an overwhelming need to drink 128 oz. big gulps in your "car" go buy a lifted F250 with custom tribal paint to match your collection of Affliction shirts already.  Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Sep 30, 2012 17:03
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Aurune posted:Very true. It's truly a German car. Every German car I've ever been in has had useless cup holders. It's got two in the front that block the window controls (and sit in a way that you smash your knuckles into the lids if you're shifting into 1st or 5th). There's a third bigger one for your big gulps and crap at the back of the center console, but it it's really shallow with no grips so it's really easy to knock a drink out of it. The front ones are nicely sized for a bottle of water though, which is what I suspect they were designed for. I've stopped going through drive-thrus as often, because American drive-thru windows are designed for huge-rear end SUVs and trucks, and I've actually been forgotten at drive-thrus before because only a few inches of the roof of my car can be seen from the drive-thru window 
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Sep 30, 2012 17:34
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Mk4 Golf/GTI cupholders were awesome because they popped out and blocked the radio.
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Sep 30, 2012 19:22
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Bovril Delight posted:Mk4 Golf/GTI cupholders were awesome because they popped out and blocked the radio. Must not have been all years. My '03 did not.
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Sep 30, 2012 21:42
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My mk6 Golfs cupholders don't hold my 52oz iced teas from Quik Trip all that well but they're passable. My focus didn't deal with them very well either.
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Sep 30, 2012 21:59
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Bovril Delight posted:Mk4 Golf/GTI cupholders were awesome because they popped out and blocked the radio. Old Subarus blocked the climate control, at least on the Impreza.
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Sep 30, 2012 22:15
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Keyser S0ze posted:I took the cupholders OUT of my BMW E46 330 and replaced it with a eurotray because I pretty much only drink out of bottles with caps on them that can easily be tossed into a backpack....and yeah, they sucked anyway and if you have a MT, anything taller than a half can will get in your way. There are also insulated travel bottles with screwtops on them as well that you can put coffee in. Huh, I wonder if I could get that for the 1.
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fknlo posted:My mk6 Golfs cupholders don't hold my 52oz iced teas from Quik Trip all that well but they're passable. My focus didn't deal with them very well either. I can't tell if you're serious or not. 
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Oct 1, 2012 00:02
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BMW E39 cupholders are the best: Blocks the climate control and makes it difficult to shift into odd numbered gears. They also broke all the time.
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Residency Evil posted:I can't tell if you're serious or not. Somewhat. I love iced tea and 52oz of it means less trips to the gas station!
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Oct 1, 2012 01:13
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SouthLAnd posted:This reviewer in this video that showed up in my youtube homepage swears the ST is better than the current GTI. Plus it sounds good. Why are there so many terrific cars available today? Back in the 80's and 90's, it was so easy to choose the best car for your money. Now every company seems to make terrific stuff for almost every segment.
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Oct 1, 2012 05:48
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angryhampster posted:Must not have been all years. My '03 did not. They revised them and put them in the centre console in 2003. We actually bought an 03 console and put it in our 01 TDI. Also b5 Audi A4s have the best worst cup holders. If I was on my computer I'd link a picture. Ther are about an inch wide that hold a small cup or can on two sides.
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Sir Tonk posted:Why are there so many terrific cars available today? Back in the 80's and 90's, it was so easy to choose the best car for your money. Now every company seems to make terrific stuff for almost every segment. I was at the dealership on Saturday and they had a loaded '13 Focus there for $24k. It seriously has one of the best looking interiors I've ever seen. The differences between it and the previous Focus are astounding. discstickers posted:BMW E39 cupholders are the best: I've never had a problem shifting into odd-numbered gears in mine, but yeah, they're useful for a 12oz can only and then they block the entire HVAC control. I enjoy a can of mountian dew in the morning, and my passengers usually like to have drinks (especially on longer trips) and it's kind of annoying to tell them they have to hold their drink the entire time. My E36 had the shallow ones in the middle, same as a E46 posted above, and it was far superior. It couldn't break and it could hold bottles, though they would impede shifting quite a bit. CornHolio fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 1, 2012 |
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Anything taller than a soda can in my front cup holder prevents me from shifting into 2nd or 4th. In a Mustang. WHAT THE gently caress AMERICA?
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Oct 1, 2012 13:52
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Anything taller than a soda can in my front cup holder prevents me from shifting into 2nd or 4th. In a Mustang. WHAT THE gently caress AMERICA?
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Oct 1, 2012 14:50
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someone start a blog dedicated to reviewing cup holders in cars. This is information you just cant get from mainstream sources.
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Oct 1, 2012 15:00
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I just had to go do a Google Image Search for both of our vehicles to see what the cup holders look like, and I regularly use the one in the Jeep in the mornings for my tea. I can't imagine anyone who cares so much about cup holders but I'm sure they're out there.
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Oct 1, 2012 15:11
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I've always found the German disdain for cupholders to be strange. Do they really expect people to pull over any time they want to take a drink of water? Race cars have Camelbak style hydration systems with drink tubes, so I don't see the problem with having somewhere to stick your water bottle where it won't roll into a footwell and then under a brake pedal or something.
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Oct 1, 2012 15:27
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Cocoa Crispies posted:What year? The ones in my 2012 make it awkward to shift and take up valuable armrest room if I have anything taller than one of those half-height coke cans. 2000. Right after I got it I went and got some dinner and popped the lid off a milkshake when I grabbed 2nd. Thankfully I wasn't being a retard and didn't spill it everywhere. From then on, the front holder has been relegated to a key/change holder.
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Oct 1, 2012 16:56
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Xguard86 posted:someone start a blog dedicated to reviewing cup holders in cars. This is information you just cant get from mainstream sources. My Optima has a ludicrous amount of cupholders. There are the two main ones which are so huge they're almost useless because a normal can will just roll around inside them if you start making sharp turns, two in the back center armrest, then all 4 doors have a perfect 12oz can holder molded into the lower part. And of course the glove box has the air conditioning vent to keep more drinks cooled. Why do they think people drink this much?
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Because they are right
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I actually really like the cupholders in my Sonic. Just the right amount of hold to keep my coffee thermos still but still have room for some 7-11 monstrosity.
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Oct 1, 2012 18:17
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Cupholders. 
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Oct 1, 2012 18:21
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Looks about as flimsy as a NASA o-ring.
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Oct 1, 2012 18:23
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davebo posted:My Optima has a ludicrous amount of cupholders. There are the two main ones which are so huge they're almost useless because a normal can will just roll around inside them if you start making sharp turns, two in the back center armrest, then all 4 doors have a perfect 12oz can holder molded into the lower part. And of course the glove box has the air conditioning vent to keep more drinks cooled. Why do they think people drink this much? The more giant ones probably are meant to double as miscellaneous junk and change holders with an option to hold an enormous 96 oz soda tub. Just like if your door already has to be super thick and you have big door pockets, might as well add a detent for cups and water bottles, because why not? Also, it's surprising how many people (especially with kids or something) base their buying on stuff like number of cupholders.
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^- How did we both decide to use the 96oz'er as a reference?  Thwomp posted:Looks about as flimsy as a NASA o-ring. Both last produced in 1986, right?  They got flack for not having any in the US market, so they decided to do the usual and completely go overboard on design. They work great, but I don't think I'd try to jam a 96ozer into one. I don't usually need 6 POUNDS of soda at once.
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Oct 1, 2012 18:30
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The 2013 Ford Escape has about 16 cupholders and you can change the lighting of some with MyFordTouch. Personally, I'm holding out for when automakers install one of those bar soda guns and the car can order fast food for you (~MY2015.)
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MATLAB 1988 posted:The 2013 Ford Escape has about 16 cupholders and you can change the lighting of some with MyFordTouch. It's not so far fetched as you may think.
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Not only this, but some of the new infotainment systems can install apps and poo poo, I'm pretty sure in less than 3 years you could install a Pizza Hut App into your My Ford Touch system and just tell it to "order my regular pizza for delivery" on the way home.
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http://i.imgur.com/F3hrH.jpg Option on a Rolls-Royce in 1959.
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Keyser S0ze posted:I took the cupholders OUT of my BMW E46 330 and replaced it with a eurotray because I pretty much only drink out of bottles with caps on them that can easily be tossed into a backpack....and yeah, they sucked anyway and if you have a MT, anything taller than a half can will get in your way. There are also insulated travel bottles with screwtops on them as well that you can put coffee in. So true. If you love your car and you worked hard to own it, then cup holders aren't for "cups". Water bottles only in my IS F. Over the weekend, on my way to a tailgater, some douche magouche who I barely know, and who obviously doesn't appreciate nice things, was riding in my back seat and desperately wanted to crack a beer open in my cabin. He even asked a third time after I told him "gently caress! no!" twice (strike 1). And at the tailgater he sat on my bumper (strike 2). Then he pops the lid of a beer bottle with a lighter and splashes beer on my bumper (strike 3). Needless to say he didn't get a ride back home. That classless fool can take the bus next time.
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CornHolio posted:I've never had a problem shifting into odd-numbered gears in mine, but yeah, they're useful for a 12oz can only and then they block the entire HVAC control. Have you considered the possibility that this is a feature? When it's hot out and you're blasting AC, it keeps your drink cold. When it's cold out and you're running the heater, it keeps your drink warm!
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Steve French posted:Have you considered the possibility that this is a feature? When it's hot out and you're blasting AC, it keeps your drink cold. The vents aren't in front of the beverages, only the controls. Otherwise... well, it'd still be pretty stupid, but at least I have other vents. I only have those controls!
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