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yergacheffe
Jan 22, 2007
Whaler on the moon.

Thanks for the answers, Safety Dance. The klr250's petcock is manual operated, or at least I think it is. There's positions for on, off, and reserve. I only see one barb sticking out of it that goes to the carb, i.e. no connection for a vacuum hose. Therefore, I think I can save about $20 and just order a new gasket.

It looks like you're right about the part #3 being a coolant sensor. I think I'll leave it alone since I was only trying to remove it because I thought it was the spark plug. I've never worked on any vehicle before so I'm a little :downs: about all of this.

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Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

yergacheffe posted:

Thanks for the answers, Safety Dance. The klr250's petcock is manual operated, or at least I think it is. There's positions for on, off, and reserve. I only see one barb sticking out of it that goes to the carb, i.e. no connection for a vacuum hose. Therefore, I think I can save about $20 and just order a new gasket.

It looks like you're right about the part #3 being a coolant sensor. I think I'll leave it alone since I was only trying to remove it because I thought it was the spark plug. I've never worked on any vehicle before so I'm a little :downs: about all of this.

At least you learned something today :). You'll get it eventually. We all started somewhere

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

Hey dudes, question on behalf of a mate of mine who just picked up a CB400:

"Anyone got any tips for getting the airbox out of a NC36 CB400??"

He's fairly mechanically minded so I imagine it's a super pain in the rear end to get out. Just going to assume one of you guys have probably pulled one apart before?

Thanks.

e: He also can't find the fuel filter for it or a service/workshop manual.

Shimrod fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Oct 28, 2012

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost

Shimrod posted:

Hey dudes, question on behalf of a mate of mine who just picked up a CB400:

"Anyone got any tips for getting the airbox out of a NC36 CB400??"

He's fairly mechanically minded so I imagine it's a super pain in the rear end to get out. Just going to assume one of you guys have probably pulled one apart before?

Thanks.

e: He also can't find the fuel filter for it or a service/workshop manual.

They're a loving nightmare to get out iirc, easy to break them if you lose patience.
http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32 used to be the main resource for stuff for them, but they're moved hosts a lot over the years so i don't know how much of the old howtos survived

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

echomadman posted:

They're a loving nightmare to get out iirc, easy to break them if you lose patience.
http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32 used to be the main resource for stuff for them, but they're moved hosts a lot over the years so i don't know how much of the old howtos survived

Thanks, I'll pass that onto him.

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe
Quick question regarding my 1992 Honda Nighthawk (CB250)

This morning in noticed that there was a loose rubber tube hanging out of my bike, which seamed to be coming from the carburetor assembly. I looked around online and found this exploded view



The tube in question is part 27. I looked around to see if it had slipped out of something but there doesn't look to be anyplace for it to be attached. Is it suppose to be disconnected like this?

EDIT: some cell phone pics


Kuvo fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Oct 28, 2012

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
My God... How long have you been riding like that? ...jesus

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe
Oh god am I going to blow myself up :ohdear:

dr cum patrol esq
Sep 3, 2003

A C A B

:350:

Kuvo posted:

Oh god am I going to blow myself up :ohdear:

Looks like it goes to an airbox for drainage.

Ashex
Jun 25, 2007

These pipes are cleeeean!!!
I believe that's the breather tube for the engine, I wouldn't panic over that. Is the end capped? If so you pull the cap and check for oil or other debris with regular maintenance.

If it's not then it should plug in to the air box.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Okay, I just picked up a 79 CB650 for very cheap (with a title, more important than almost everything else) and was told the engine used to run fairly well, though because of other problems (battery, brakes) it was sold to me. I got it home, fixed the front brake (flush + new fluid, pretty easy), and started tackling everything else.

The carbs are really clean externally, which is in line with what I was told about them being gone through fairly recently (six months?). I get spark on all four spark plugs (tested by taking them out and cranking it over while hooked up to an external battery), and I get fuel slowly dribbling out of the carb overflows with the petcock on (probably dirty needles, no big deal). That being said, the bike doesn't start, or even attempt to start or sputter. The choke is non-operational right now (rusted choke cable, I assume), but I thought I'd get something even without it.

On a scale of one to Rosie O'Donnel, how much do you guys hate piston-killer (starting fluid)? I haven't used it in awhile, but I've got a can of almost pure ether sitting here ready.

obso
Jul 30, 2000
OBSOLUTELY

Geirskogul posted:

and I get fuel slowly dribbling out of the carb overflows with the petcock on (probably dirty needles, no big deal).

That is kind of a big deal if you are trying to get it started. Give the bowls a few taps to see if it stops. If the needles are sticking open starting fluid isn't going to help anything.

Alceste
Dec 5, 2003

Ramrod XTreme
What would possess a lovely looking Altima full of teenagers to try to race me at a stoplight? I mean revving at me and creeping up and the whole deal. I have been riding for one year and this is the first time that has happened.

I'm on a first gen naked SV650, too, not exactly a fancy or fast looking bike.

Maybe that's why.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
You smoked them right?

Alceste
Dec 5, 2003

Ramrod XTreme
Oh yeah, it did not in any way resemble a race.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Good.

Anyway sometimes people are stupid, sometimes I'll rev at things when I'm driving just to hear them do it back. I'm sure a 370z gives me the same looks you gave them. I drive a suburban.

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho

Alceste posted:

What would possess a lovely looking Altima full of teenagers to try to race me at a stoplight? I mean revving at me and creeping up and the whole deal. I have been riding for one year and this is the first time that has happened.

I'm on a first gen naked SV650, too, not exactly a fancy or fast looking bike.

Maybe that's why.

I had a 86 civic rev at me hard while I was riding this:



It wasn't even worth getting on it at all, but I still smoked him. I get less revs on the DRZ than I did riding my crappy '81 Honda...

GanjamonII
Mar 24, 2001

Alceste posted:

teenagers

This is why.. didn't everyone do this as a kid?

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Question about front forks: I've been having some issues under brakes with the front end feeling like a jackhammer as I'm coming to a stop (as speed drops below maybe 20kph). I thought it might have been knackered discs but it persisted after fitting new ones, plus it's not coming through the brake lever but the whole front end, and only as I'm coming to a stop. Feels like the front wheel might be skipping over the road? I've got adjustable forks, is that a rebound issue? As in, the fork is trying to force the wheel back down too quickly and it's skipping across and instead of staying in contact. It's not dangerous, more annoying, but I could seeing it cause an issue in a hard stop.

e: I can make it stop when it happens by letting off the brakes and then drilling them hard so the bike comes to a quick stop by the time the forks have compressed.

2ndclasscitizen fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Oct 29, 2012

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

2ndclasscitizen posted:

Question about front forks: I've been having some issues under brakes with the front end feeling like a jackhammer as I'm coming to a stop (as speed drops below maybe 20kph). I thought it might have been knackered discs but it persisted after fitting new ones, plus it's not coming through the brake lever but the whole front end, and only as I'm coming to a stop. Feels like the front wheel might be skipping over the road? I've got adjustable forks, is that a rebound issue? As in, the fork is trying to force the wheel back down too quickly and it's skipping across and instead of staying in contact. It's not dangerous, more annoying, but I could seeing it cause an issue in a hard stop.

e: I can make it stop when it happens by letting off the brakes and then drilling them hard so the bike comes to a quick stop by the time the forks have compressed.

Check the wheel bearings, you shouldn't be getting judder unless you're braking right near the limit unless your suspension settings are *way* out of wack.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Check your head bearings too. Especially if you've been playing hooligan lately.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

2ndclasscitizen posted:

I've got adjustable forks.

Before checking bearings and all that jazz, look at your user manual, find the stock settings, it will be something like "dial all the way anticlockwise then 10 clicks clockwise".

I have had random people gently caress with my settings before.

"Ooh look a clicky dial" *winds it all the way one way*

Tamir Lenk
Nov 25, 2009

Geirskogul posted:

Okay, I just picked up a 79 CB650 for very cheap (with a title, more important than almost everything else) and was told the engine used to run fairly well, though because of other problems (battery, brakes) it was sold to me. I got it home, fixed the front brake (flush + new fluid, pretty easy), and started tackling everything else.

The carbs are really clean externally, which is in line with what I was told about them being gone through fairly recently (six months?). I get spark on all four spark plugs (tested by taking them out and cranking it over while hooked up to an external battery), and I get fuel slowly dribbling out of the carb overflows with the petcock on (probably dirty needles, no big deal). That being said, the bike doesn't start, or even attempt to start or sputter. The choke is non-operational right now (rusted choke cable, I assume), but I thought I'd get something even without it.

On a scale of one to Rosie O'Donnel, how much do you guys hate piston-killer (starting fluid)? I haven't used it in awhile, but I've got a can of almost pure ether sitting here ready.

What's your compression like?

Can you open the choke at the carb end without the cable? At least to get it started.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Wulframn posted:

The issue is that no one really teaches the proper technique. Some MSF courses do (I think they are supposed to as per the curriculum) but mine did not and I have friends who didn't learn in their [MSF] course either.

VA's MSF didn't cover that as of last year. :(

That video was rad; pretty sure if I hadn't seen it I'd gently caress my back up real good one day.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Alceste posted:

What would possess a lovely looking Altima full of teenagers to try to race me at a stoplight?

You answered your own question.

Alceste
Dec 5, 2003

Ramrod XTreme
That's the simplest and best explanation. I didn't get it because even as a teenager, I never tried racing with bikes; I knew I'd be destroyed but I didn't want to know how bad.

I'll stick to revving at the kids who give me the twisty-throttle motion when I ride by the park. And the skinny moms with jogging strollers.

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho

Alceste posted:

That's the simplest and best explanation. I didn't get it because even as a teenager, I never tried racing with bikes; I knew I'd be destroyed but I didn't want to know how bad.

I'll stick to revving at the kids who give me the twisty-throttle motion when I ride by the park. And the skinny moms with jogging strollers.

I rev for kids that get that wide eyed look in their eyes at stoplights. Their moms always give me the stink eye though.

Wulframn
Jul 6, 2012

sexy fast velociraptor

Alceste posted:

Question: What would possess a lovely looking Altima full of teenagers to try to race me at a stoplight?

Answer: A lovely looking Altima full of teenagers

FTFY :v:

Edit: ^^^

Yeah, I do that too. One day I was coming into my apartment complex and two kids were on their bikes. I gave them a thumbs-up as I came sweeping around the corner. They immediately turned around and followed me home. When I parked the bike they were across the street staring wide-eyed :stare: as I revved the bike up a couple of times for them before switching it off.

One of them still comes around sometimes and waits for me to give him a thumbs-up as I head out and in.

I like to think it was me who corrupted them. But I won't take full credit; I know TV did its part too. :colbert:

Wulframn fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 29, 2012

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Ponies ate my Bagel posted:

I rev for kids that get that wide eyed look in their eyes at stoplights. Their moms always give me the stink eye though.

You are doing the right thing.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
I like to think cops will understand if I just happen to accidentally lift the front wheel a bit when I see a kid staring at my bike at a stop light.

I usually get a thumbs up from dad further down the road though, YMMV.

Wulframn
Jul 6, 2012

sexy fast velociraptor

JP Money posted:

I like to think cops will understand if I just happen to accidentally lift the front wheel a bit when I see a kid staring at my bike at a stop light.

I usually get a thumbs up from dad further down the road though, YMMV.

I got to have my first interaction with a motorcycle cop today while I was on my bike. He pulled up next to me at a stoplight. Today is the first day we've had where it has been genuinely cold, so I was bundled up. I had earlier made the mistake of wearing fingerless wool gloves I wear around the house, but I learned my lesson - any exposed skin is skin that's getting frostbite in that loving sub-zero wind. :v:

Anyway, he pulled up next to me, looked over at me seriously, then smiled and said "Keeping warm?". I lifted my visor and replied "Trying to!", as I laughed. He laughed and told me he'd seen some Harley guys up the street a while back with no gear except jeans and a leather vest a piece. He said they were almost solid blue and their fingers looked frozen to the bike's grips. We both laughed, then we pulled off.

I just can't see motorcycle cops in the same way I see cops in cars. They're too much like us. :colbert: Until they give me a loving ticket.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
Man, wait til you get a ticket from them! They're either cool as gently caress and super nice so you can't hate them or they seem to be total loving idiots that know nothing about riding nor do they care they're pulling over a bike.

Strangely enough I got tickets from the cool ones and no ticket from the dick. The cool ones at least talked to me a bit and made it seem like they actually care that you might get hurt or aren't being safe. I couldn't even really be mad at either of them. The dick one just wanted to pull me over and give me a dad lecture on something dumb on the bike. He also chose to stop me in the median turning lane in a construction zone. After he stopped me I asked him twice if he wanted us to move further down the road to the giant empty parking lot. He said "no, we're safe here, we'll only be a minute." :downs:

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter

Wulframn posted:

I just can't see motorcycle cops in the same way I see cops in cars. They're too much like us. :colbert: Until they give me a loving ticket.

The one time I got pulled over by a bike cop he didn't say a single extra word to me. "License and registration, you were doing X in a Y, here's your ticket." I wanted to ask him about his giant BMW. :(

Tamir Lenk
Nov 25, 2009

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

The one time I got pulled over by a bike cop he didn't say a single extra word to me. "License and registration, you were doing X in a Y, here's your ticket." I wanted to ask him about his giant BMW. :(

Great, now I cannot get the porno music out of my head.

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice
Well, gently caress. Looks like I won't be taking my SV to the track any time soon. It's showing its worth as a $200 bike.

Over the last week I've been investigating a water-leaking-into-oil problem. I narrowed it down to something in the vicinity of the water pump, so I replaced the water pump oil seal and o-rings, and the clutch cover gasket, and I made sure everything buttoned up all nice and sealed well. It still leaked. Today, as I was ho-humming around the bike, I took a flashlight to this coolant jacket in the engine case:



Lo and be-motherfucking-hold, there's a hole inside of it, right where the arrow is pointing, so coolant would drain its merry way in from the top, where it's supposed to be, and then exit through the hole, into where it sure as poo poo shouldn't be.

Is it a safe bet to assume my only choice now is to replace that half of the crankcase? It doesn't seem like much can be done for something like that.
Also, what could even cause such a hole in the first place?

:smith:

edit: It's about the width of the partition itself, and maybe 3/4 of an inch long.

AncientTV fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Oct 29, 2012

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, you could always JB-weld it.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Show me how to find one. I'll gladly do some wrenching if it gets me a $2000 discount on the purchase price.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Bucephalus posted:

I'll gladly do some wrenching if it gets me a $2000 discount on the purchase price.

Hahahahaha :suicide:


I think my $400 bike has to be well over $1000 in parts by now; the head's still off and it still needs tires and brakes.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
A good welder will be able to repair that.

They're going to have to be good though, because you don't want to overpenetrate and destroy or deform the passage, and too much heat will be a problem as well - potentially toasting bearings. They're also going to need to leech out the oil that's impregnated into the surface. Might even need to grind it down to clean metal, clean the crap out of it, and then rebuild it out of weld. Shouldn't be an expensive job though. Could even be done with the engine in the frame as long as the welder is worth a poo poo and you disconnect all the electronics.

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Well clearly the engine is already out, so that should be fine.

How much are cases on eBay? There have to be a ton of parted out SV motors out there.

You know the old adage: "A free ($200) motorcycle is never free (just $200)".

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