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Hasters posted:I hope so, it's about time the franchise made good on it's faux progressivism. Star Trek called capitalism barbaric at the height of the cold war. A black guy disagrees with Spock and is right at the same time that racists are blowing up black churches in Mississippi. Star Trek is hardcore, except for its hilariously over-the-top sexism.
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CPFortest posted:Showing a white guy, even if he's an alien, in a romantic relationship with a black woman is pretty progressive for Hollywood. To break the kinds of barriers that TOS did, it would've been a transgender Muslim and a Chinese man.
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Yeah, everyone remembers the Kirk-Uhura kiss, but its easy to forget that it was shown on national prime-time television in an era where doing so could very easily get you killed in many parts of the US. There was also the one episode of DS9 with Dax's past wife that pissed off a lot of stupid people.Jack Gladney posted:Star Trek is hardcore, except for its hilariously over-the-top sexism. On a related note, there's apparently an interview with Nichelle Nichols floating around somewhere where she reveals that - despite the common knowledge of Gene being a comically persistent lecher - the infamous barely-rear end-covering miniskirts were the female cast's idea, not his.
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McSpanky posted:To break the kinds of barriers that TOS did, it would've been a transgender Muslim and a Chinese man. Nah, just have Kirk be gay. A mainstream series gay protagonist -let alone one from a popular science fiction franchise - is something that still hasn't been done yet.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Guess you haven't seen Torchwood. NO ONE SHOULD SEE TORCHWOOD
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bobkatt013 posted:NO ONE SHOULD SEE TORCHWOOD Everyone should watch Torchwood: Children of Earth. But I've only watched that and a bit of Miracle Day, and I'm fine not voyaging further. Seriously, though, Children of Earth is fantastic and works just fine as a standalone miniseries. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Feb 24, 2013 |
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bobkatt013 posted:NO ONE SHOULD SEE TORCHWOOD 
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That is perfect for 1960s Star Trek.
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I saw this and immediately burst out laughing. Holy poo poo, who came up with that costume? That's like a bad online costume store's "sexy cyberman".
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Jack Gladney posted:In the only episode of Smallville I've ever seen, Clark Kent drives somewhere while listening to the radio. He visibly rocks out to a song placed into the episode for cross-platform marketing. The song mentions Superman and Lois Lane by name repeatedly, and young Superman reacts not at all.
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Ash1138 posted:So when Kirk sings along to Sabotage, how does he pronounce "sabotage?" Though he loved the song as a boy, now that he's grown he can no longer stand to hear it...it sickens him.
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Ash1138 posted:So when Kirk sings along to Sabotage, how does he pronounce "sabotage?" Oh my god, I'd forgotten about that story. Now the song being in the movie just seems like an epic troll on Shatner.
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Suddenly, I like the choice of song  Wrt. my previous controversial statements about the Beastie Boys: I dunno, I guess they're a decent band. But here, they're used as a Sign for Rebellious Music, and that doesn't suit any song.
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How sad for Sabotage not to make you feel rebellious.
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The song by itself, a different beast. In the context of a film scene that to me screams "Rebellious Youth!" way too try-hard, nah.
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http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mark-wahlberg-reveals-that-he-was-almost-cast-in-star-trek "James...I was yo father...almost." 
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"Say hi to your mother for me."
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You mean the Avengers recruited George Kirk, a true hero.
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bobkatt013 posted:Instead we got Thor. Ramming your ship into a giant space acorn to save dozens of people does seem like a surefire way of landing a spot in valhalla.
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AlternateAccount posted:Oh my god, I'd forgotten about that story. Now the song being in the movie just seems like an epic troll on Shatner. The choice was intentional. They (ILM crew) mentioned it at a SIGGRAPH panel on the movie; apparently everyone working on the film, including Abrams, knew about lots of really obscure Trek stuff. Also, the panel began with a clip of the Gorn fight, which was great.
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Goreld posted:The choice was intentional. They (ILM crew) mentioned it at a SIGGRAPH panel on the movie; apparently everyone working on the film, including Abrams, knew about lots of really obscure Trek stuff. So, for folks who aren't in the know, what's the deal with Shatner and Sabotage?
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Error 404 posted:So, for folks who aren't in the know, what's the deal with Shatner and Sabotage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOTRxt-dIw
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I can see Mark Wahlberg doing a good Kirk Senior. Like his stuff in that last Oscar winning movie he did, I forgot, the Scorsese one. "Dive in head-first", yes.Goreld posted:The choice was intentional. They (ILM crew) mentioned it at a SIGGRAPH panel on the movie; apparently everyone working on the film, including Abrams, knew about lots of really obscure Trek stuff. I'm definitely on board with the choice of music now. "It's Sawbotage!" Also, Abrams being a Trek nerd is good and not unexpected when you consider the movie he made.
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mr. stefan posted:Ramming your ship into a giant space acorn to save dozens of people does seem like a surefire way of landing a spot in valhalla. I guess we now know what God needed with a starship.
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Cingulate posted:Also, Abrams being a Trek nerd is good and not unexpected when you consider the movie he made. Everything that I've heard is that Abrams wasn't a Trek nerd at all before he signed on to do the film. I'm sure he entrenched himself in the world after that, but I don't think you could call him a Trek nerd.
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If he takes his work serious enough to only become a Trek nerd when he's called upon, that's probably even better. Cf. Nicholas Meyer
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Is it bad that I want to see the gorn fight in a future Star Trek movie, provided there is one?
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SublimeDelusions posted:Is it bad that I want to see the gorn fight in a future Star Trek movie, provided there is one? Watch the Enterprise episode "In a Mirror, Darkly (Part 2)" if you wanna see a CGI Gorn kinda sorta fight Evil Captain Archer. That'll hold you over till then.
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The new Star Trek game where you play as the reboot's Kirk and Spock has gorn as the main antagonist.
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Star Trek Into Darkness UK release moved forward This is becoming a really good marketing move. UK openings cost a pittance compared to US openings, but we speak english so the studios get a week of free internet publicity from a general viewing audience and increase hype for the US launch.
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The MSJ posted:The new Star Trek game where you play as the reboot's Kirk and Spock has gorn as the main antagonist. So long as the final battle involves somehow fashioning a makeshift cannon out of bamboo I don't really care about anything leading up to it.
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feedmyleg posted:Everything that I've heard is that Abrams wasn't a Trek nerd at all before he signed on to do the film. I'm sure he entrenched himself in the world after that, but I don't think you could call him a Trek nerd. It's Lindeloff who dug on Trek.
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Some big spoilers from a partial preview screening in Brazil: http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2013/03/earlier-release-dates-music-and-huge.html
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I really like they they boot kirk down for loving up. Also more Pike is great.
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Throb Robinson posted:I really like they they boot kirk down for loving up. Also more Pike is great. Oh man, that second sentence makes me so happy. That website posted:Spock beams in to chase Harrison; they then go through several buildings and eventually end up fighting on top of ships flying around the city. What the gently caress? Nothing in that list of spoilers sounds very good except for the bit quoted above. :\ AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Mar 8, 2013 |
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AlternateAccount posted:Oh man, that second sentence makes me so happy. There is a strong possibility that what was screened is only 1/4th of the total movie. Which means there is so much more to be excited about. Except Peter Weller.
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AlternateAccount posted:What the gently caress? Nothing in that list of spoilers sounds very good except for the bit quoted above. :\
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