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gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

Chrieger posted:

You guys supply those?

Swiss conscripts need to provide those themselves...Then again, we get a gun to take home instead :v: (Which is an entirely different case of :can: )

Actually, is GIP interested in a thread about how service works in Switzerland?

I'd read it.

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Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
GiP is always interested in new threads

Piisamirotta
Oct 30, 2012

Chrieger posted:

You guys supply those?

Swiss conscripts need to provide those themselves...Then again, we get a gun to take home instead :v: (Which is an entirely different case of :can: )

Actually, is GIP interested in a thread about how service works in Switzerland?

In my brigade and the ones my buddies have served in they were standard issue, not actually sure if it's universal.

I'd read it too.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Chrieger posted:

You guys supply those?

Swiss conscripts need to provide those themselves...Then again, we get a gun to take home instead :v: (Which is an entirely different case of :can: )

Actually, is GIP interested in a thread about how service works in Switzerland?

I'd read the hell out of that thread.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I'm always interested in how countries with conscription handle things. Or just foreign militaries in general.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
Same here. It seems like you'd get a lot of really terrible soldiers who didn't want to be there if they were forced to join the army. Although if it's culturally accepted that everyone join that might not be the case.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.
I would read the poo poo out of that thread.

Martello
Apr 29, 2012

by XyloJW
Always been interested in the Swiss military, especially the taking home Stg's part. So yeah, I'd definitely read that.

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



Chrieger posted:

Actually, is GIP interested in a thread about how service works in Switzerland?

I'm not military, but reading about foreign armies is interesting as hell, so yes. I'm particularly interested in how well the conscription thing works, because the Swiss system is usually held up as an example of one that works really well.

Beria
Nov 13, 2011
Wrong thread, im the idiot!

Nerdfest X
Feb 7, 2008
UberDork Extreme
Disbursing Officer using ship's funds to participate in a Nigerian 419 scam.

new friend from school
May 19, 2008

by Azathoth

Nerdfest X posted:

Disbursing Officer using ship's funds to participate in a Nigerian 419 scam.

Link to article, or it didn't happen. A lot of this stuff is outrageous, but I refuse to believe this one.

Nerdfest X
Feb 7, 2008
UberDork Extreme
There is no article, this story was related by a "guest speaker" at a safety standown. There were 4 guest speakers, all of whom were on some traveling "dont gently caress up like I did" speaking tour, each person relating a story more serious/intense than the last.

The first guy was running a MDMA ring on the ship and got busted for DUI (message: you can get a DUI on substances other than alcohol).

2nd guy was an alcoholic nuke who snuck vodka onboard a sub in Aquafina bottles (message: being found drunk on watch 3 weeks into a sub deployment is not healthy for your career).

3rd was said Disbo losing thousands in a Email scam. (message: fraud, waste and abuse in the Navy is bad, you WILL be caught).

Last was a (alledged) battered wife who stabbed the poo poo out of her husband like 47 times (there were never any official reports of abuse). (message: if your spouse likes to slap you around, get the bruises documented before you embark on a murder spree)

Also: you underestimate the levels of retardedness that occurs in the military to believe that some idiot O-2 would never do something this dumb. I submit this entire thread as proof

Nerdfest X fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Feb 15, 2013

Bensa
Aug 21, 2007

Loyal 'til the end.
Just make a general conscription thread with this as the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUMJjrM0Xc

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Nerdfest X posted:

2nd guy was an alcoholic nuke who snuck vodka onboard a sub in Aquafina bottles (message: being found drunk on watch 3 weeks into a sub deployment is not healthy for your career).

Always use Listerine bottles the smell will be much less of a giveaway

FIDEL CASHFLOW
Oct 13, 2009

Bensa posted:

Just make a general conscription thread with this as the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUMJjrM0Xc

wanna be in dat army

Chrieger
Sep 24, 2006

It is got toothpick!
Easy, become Swiss citizen before the age of 30 and get drafted :v:

red19fire
May 26, 2010

When I was a lowly E3 on Kinser in Okinawa, we had a platoon Sgt that was desperate to be a high-speed lo-drag Killer of All Enemies Foreign and Domestic. Once we did a 'night patrol,' except that he couldn't get our rifles out of the armory. So we used rolled up sandbags and wandered through the small, basketball court-sized section of jungle on the base over and over.

Okinawa has a problem with underage drinking, since the drinking age in Japan is 18. In the course of a year, we went from having no curfew, to 2 am, to midnight; as well as being about go to off base with a buddy, to only being allowed off base in groups of four (E-3 and below only). One night, our glorious NCO leaders decided that since there's a 2am curfew, everyone had to assemble in the commons room at 1 am, essentially making the curfew 12:30. One of my friends decided that was bullshit, so he started showing up in scuba gear. He was certified all the way to the top of the scuba hierarchy, so he could dive alone and at night. After the second night where he walked in dripping seawater, they stopped with their bullshit formations.

VV should have clarified; the policy of our NCO's to ruin everything is the idiot in this story. Self-important NCO's are the worst, and Okinawa is infested with them.

red19fire fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Feb 16, 2013

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
That is the opposite of what this thread is for (unless you mean the policy).

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Scuba man is awesome.

Nerdfest X
Feb 7, 2008
UberDork Extreme
Anybody who shows the upper chain how stupid the latest Flavor of the Week policy is deserves a high five

Cwmagain
Jul 30, 2011

Caffeine only diet leads to paranoia and... the shakes!

Samu posted:

Same here. It seems like you'd get a lot of really terrible soldiers who didn't want to be there if they were forced to join the army. Although if it's culturally accepted that everyone join that might not be the case.

Met an Austrian conscript in a bar just the other day who told me about how he, on border duty, would single out Dutch vehicles and scare them shitless with rifle pointed at them, just because he hated duty. He also told me he was far from the only one doing it. :/

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Cwmagain posted:

Met an Austrian conscript in a bar just the other day who told me about how he, on border duty, would single out Dutch vehicles and scare them shitless with rifle pointed at them, just because he hated duty. He also told me he was far from the only one doing it. :/

Bit of a derail, but I used to work with a former Austrian conscript assigned as a machine gunner, and finding out from him that the Austrian military name for the M2 Browning .50 cal is "ueberschweres Maschinengewehr" ("overly heavy machinegun") was fantastic.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Okay, I was on staff duty the other day, and picked up a winner.

Seems that a certain schools NCO got into a little bit of grief. This is just before 4 dudes on extra duty - all with less than 12 days until they ETS'd - got caught smoking spice in the barracks WHILST on extra duty.

This NCO was having a bit of drinky drinky at his place with some buddies, playing pool. What can go so far wrong when you are in a house playing pool? Well, apparently dude argues with one of his invited buddies over something pool related. Punches his buddy in the face. Buddy retaliates and lays him the gently caress out, apparently kicked his rear end solidly. The buddy now tries to leave, but this NCO is having none of it. To even the score he grabs a gun, and then shoots his buddy, thankfully failing to kill him. I'm pretty sure there is a lot of paperwork to be done for that one.

Now the going joke is that the schools NCO should've scheduled himself in for some combatives classes, or some marksmanship courses.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Just use while, Jesus.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Sorry I wasn't born in the US and use whilst instead of while as a matter of course, you goddamn racist.

Martello
Apr 29, 2012

by XyloJW
:britain:

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Not quite.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


My supervisor ran into the ghost of retards past last week. Josh was a moron who thankfully decided not to reenlist back in late 2009, and nobody in our shop, or all of Comm for that matter, can stand him so no one had the slightest idea what became of him. I feel kind of bad for being as annoyed with him as I am, he's probably somewhere on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum, and would be a thousand times easier to get along with if he got some therapy to deal with some of his issues. I got far too much exposure to him one summer when we shared a room while on a TDY. He spent hours every morning and night arguing with his fat psycho wife one the phone and probably would have kept it up at work if it hadn't been a remote location where you couldn't get cell service 97% of the time.

One morning he informed me that even though we could both agree on the classic rock station for the hour commute into work each morning, he wanted to listen to Nickleback that morning and that was final. I jokingly asked him if he wanted to be a prepubescent girl too, and he really flipped out. Angrily telling me that they are not a generic band, I don't know anything about music, and that he'd been following them since 1997 "When they were just a bar band!". All of this while I attempted to make it clear that I don't really have that strong of an opinion about Nickleback, and it was just a joke. Then something magical happened, and he stopped talking to me, for the rest of the day which was conspicuous as we worked together most of the time, spent a couple hours stuck in a truck together everyday, and roomed together. He also loves arguing about stupid poo poo, so the cold shoulder was amazingly refreshing.

Anyway, as much as he bitched during his time in the air guard it was probably the best thing he had going for himself, not so good for the rest of us since he's essentially the antithesis of public service in human form, but it probably went a long way towards saving him from himself for 6 years. From what my supervisor managed to learn during an awkward 10 minute conversation with him at a beer fest was that in 2010 he made the best decision he could have possibly made and divorced his wife :btroll:, unfortunately good sense didn't stick around for long, and they've just gotten back together and might remarry. He apparently works at an AM radio station now writing commercials, and supposedly fixing that transmitter.

FIDEL CASHFLOW
Oct 13, 2009

Are all people in the military named Josh crazy like this? This sounds exactly like a dude I knew in the army guard.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

The one dude I knew named Josh was a pretty alright dude.

He kept talking about using Magic-Shave on his balls though.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

ifire posted:

Are all people in the military named Josh crazy like this? This sounds exactly like a dude I knew in the army guard.

Does it count if a Ryan drunkenly shot a Josh in the leg with an 8mm Mauser and then the Josh covered up for him (they were brothers, Army Reserve, a few years back)?.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
Josh I knew who was an MP would straight hit on dudes wives when he would pull them over ended up loving himself pretty hard when a Captain's wife bit and he gave her some undisclosed VD

RichieHimself
May 27, 2004

No way dude, she looks like Gargamel.
The Josh I knew pissed hot for coke and went AWOL. He was a pretty squared away dude though, just partied a bit too hard sometimes.

Martello
Apr 29, 2012

by XyloJW
I have a SSG Josh who's a pretty squared-away dude despite having a crushed sternum. Apparently a lot of people from the Midwest have that.

pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch
Just heard this story from a coworker of mine who went golfing with one of our new airmen last weekend:

Their foursome had just teed off on the 3rd hole and were walking down the fairway when the fiscally irresponsible new airman tells them to hold up and let people play through. He runs off to the pro shop, and comes back a few minutes later with a brand new driver.

Right after he tees off on the 4th, he pauses, looks around, and says, "Anyone want to buy a new driver? I just realized my speeding ticket is due and I spent the last of my paycheck on this club." This was on Sunday, 2 days after payday.

This kid is never going to be allowed to move out of the dorms, that is, unless getting kicked out for allowing his quad in the dorms to become the party room, complete with beer pong table, smoke machine, and underage roommate counts as moving out.

Nerdfest X
Feb 7, 2008
UberDork Extreme
A school NJP shenanigans:

Piss hot, and while being escorted to Mast by MAC, requests to use the head. Then disappears.
Returns exactly 29 days later, and actually makes it to Mast. But decides that he is above it. Tells all present "I refuse to recognize your authority over me", and does a casual about face in front of the CO.
Since he is underage, booze is out. Even more so, since on restriction. During a restricted muster, alcohol smell on breath leads to locker inspection. Minibar discovered along with mirror, razor blade and white powder. Attempts to argue vehemently that they have no legal right to confiscate said contraband.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Nerdfest X posted:

A school NJP shenanigans:

Piss hot, and while being escorted to Mast by MAC, requests to use the head. Then disappears.
Returns exactly 29 days later, and actually makes it to Mast. But decides that he is above it. Tells all present "I refuse to recognize your authority over me", and does a casual about face in front of the CO.
Since he is underage, booze is out. Even more so, since on restriction. During a restricted muster, alcohol smell on breath leads to locker inspection. Minibar discovered along with mirror, razor blade and white powder. Attempts to argue vehemently that they have no legal right to confiscate said contraband.

The Sovereign Citizen movement is hilarious. Nice to see it making its way into the military.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Wingnut Ninja posted:

The Sovereign Citizen movement is hilarious. Nice to see it making its way into the military.

Gonna be pretty tough for them to avoid the flags with gold fringe...

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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
What do they do to a guy who tries to blow off his CO and walk out?

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