p-lang thread: (now (have you (problems two)))

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Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Ronald Raiden posted:

What's up wrong the that.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:02

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 11:46

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

haskell has the nicest syntax of any language i've seen but maybe i'm biased since i use it a lot

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:11

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

yaoi prophet posted:

how many people are out there that think cobol is the best language

My uncle has said this to me once with no hint of irony in his voice.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:23

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Dr. Honked posted:

WELCOME.. TO THE COBOL GOLDMINE

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:26

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

sorry I know that I just got excited cuz I got to see a once-in-a-lifetime event like Haley's comet

is your problem with me, or that other people like me, or that no-one pays attention to you?

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:28

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

yaoi prophet posted:

haskell has the nicest syntax of any language i've seen but maybe i'm biased since i use it a lot

the indentation gets a little screwy don't you think?
For example the state monad from LYAH:

code:

instance Monad (State s) where  
    return x = State $ \s -> (x,s)  
    (State h) >>= f = State $ \s -> let (a, newState) = h s  
                                        (State g) = f a  
                                    in  g newState

it's kind of annoying that everything after the let block has to be indented way the gently caress out there, I don't know though I haven't done much haskell maybe you could clean that poo poo up by putting the let on a new line.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:29

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

yeah that works

code:

instance Monad (State s) where  
    return x = State $ \s -> (x,s)  
    (State h) >>= f = State $ \s ->
        let (a, newState) = h s  
            (State g) = f a  
        in  g newState

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:30

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

if i wanted to read comments from butthurt programmers about me i'd check reddit

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:34

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

eh, all the ml family has decent syntax

# ? Mar 11, 2013 18:41

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

yaoi prophet posted:

haskell has the nicest syntax of any language i've seen but maybe i'm biased since i use it a lot

stuff like f Prelude.. g is a bit weird imo

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:11

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

ghci> data Prelude = Prelude Int deriving Show ghci> Prelude . succ $ 42 Prelude 43 ghci> Prelude.succ $ 42 43

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:13

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

tef posted:

is your problem with me, or that other people like me, or that no-one pays attention to you?

you have to admit, you're not a funny-hat, clown-pants, wocka-wocka kind of guy

p.s. this is not an insult

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:13

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

rust has the best syntax imo

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:18

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

Phone posted:

all of the people who make decisions at companies who currently hold your 401k or ira

the only thing worse than cobol is migrating away from cobol

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:30

Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

I should check out rust but every time I try I get misdirected to some other PL with a short name that I can't remember right now

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:33

crazypenguin: Mar 9, 2005; nothing witty here, move along

Vanadium posted:

ghci> data Prelude = Prelude Int deriving Show ghci> Prelude . succ $ 42 Prelude 43 ghci> Prelude.succ $ 42 43

actually I'm curious how many people think this is a bad thing or confusing?

because there's a few other common ways people want this sort of thing. like to allow dash-in-identifiers, despite subtraction.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:56

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

Win8 Hetro Experie posted:

I should check out rust but every time I try I get misdirected to some other PL with a short name that I can't remember right now

probably go, a c for the modern age

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:01

HORATIO HORNBLOWER: Sep 21, 2002; no ambition,
no talent,
no chance

tef posted:

is your problem with me, or that other people like me, or that no-one pays attention to you?

you're ugly and you smell funny

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:07

Police Academy III: Nov 4, 2011

Win8 Hetro Experie posted:

I should check out rust but every time I try I get misdirected to some other PL with a short name that I can't remember right now

dart? i can't even keep track of these new languages anymore.

(and yet somehow no-one has managed to make a decent c++ replacement even though c++ is shockingly terrible)

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:08

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Police Academy III posted:

decent c++ replacement

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:20

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

yes please lets talk about c++ for the next twenty pages that sounds like an excellent idea

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:21

Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

Police Academy III posted:

dart? i can't even keep track of these new languages anymore.

it's this most likely, both are 4 characters long and have 2 letters in common

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:21

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

lets argue about these p langs http://www.pltgames.com/

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:22

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Win8 Hetro Experie posted:

it's this most likely, both are 4 characters long and have 2 letters in common

maybe clay

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:54

Toady: Jan 12, 2009

tef posted:

if i wanted to read comments from butthurt programmers about me i'd check reddit

which one of you here submitted it

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:54

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

COBOL is a business-oriented language and was designed to facilitate the sorts of processes that you want to implement. People find COBOL easy to pick up. It's got relatively few constructs and is straight forward. Perhaps even more importantly, COBOL is a very efficient language. When you've got custodians running large numbers of transactions, performance throughput is important and Cobol fits the bill very well.

COBOL applications tend to be optimized for throughput. Batch processing large amounts of data is where COBOL really shines. Java applications are somewhat harder to optimize for throughput because of the tendency to have more infrastructure layers between the program and the "metal" which adds processing drag. Big business/government have a lot of data to push through their systems and throughput is essential.

What has to happen though is for the development community world-wide to realize what a valuable asset it has in all this COBOL code floating around the world and what a versatile language COBOL really is. Companies have invested billions of dollars in these systems. They�ve spent years tweaking, tuning, refining the logic to do just what they need. Then someone says �COBOL ain�t cool� and they look at getting rid of it. Why? Let�s wake up and realize the enormous economic investment that has been made of COBOL and instead of trying to replace it, let�s help make it do even more. Look at new platforms for performance gains, look at new frameworks such as .NET for interaction but let COBOL keep doing the job it�s been designed for�making money!

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:59

Dr. Honked: Jan 9, 2011; eat it you slaaaaaaag

wake up and smell the.. eeegh

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:01

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

gonna say this again, someone pm duckmonster in here to talk about cobol, tell him to irony defend it if you want

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:04

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Toady posted:

which one of you here submitted it

sulk i bet

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:21

Bream: Feb 3, 2013; Farmer's Barket

Here is my impression of the PL thread:

OUR PLAYERS:
DENNIS, a research geologist working in Antarctica.
LARRY, an "in-house" developer who creates LoB/BL/dashboards for agribusiness in Oklahoma.
CLIFF, a 16-year old kid who wants to learn to mod FPSes in New Jersey.
SIMON, a CS postdoc in Northern California.
DAVID, a web developer in Seattle.

CLIFF: Guys wat do u recommend? The wether says its gonna be hot today, not sure if I should wear my uni blazer or just a shirt.
LARRY: I reckon that if you step out the front door without a good hat, that durn sun's gonna blind you lickety-split.
DAVID: Please, LARRY, nobody uses hats any more. They may have been fine for the stone age or whatever before people knew any better. Now we just leverage syncup and hold our hands over each other's eyes. Sometimes, if I want to be close to the fashion, I'll drop down to a visor. Besides, check my habhub for a pattern that proves that gloves are faster than hats.
CLIFF: So ur saying I should take a hat? My skool doesn't allow us to wear hats in uniform.
SIMON: Lockstitch rivet selvedge empire darting. Heat-fused synthetics seem kinda cool, but I haven't had that much time to get into it. Thinking about exploring nudism too. So sick of togas.
DENNIS: If you don't wear at least three layers every time you exit the compound, you will literally die. A leopard seal will rend the frozen flesh from your popsicle bones.
DAVID: Hey DENNIS, if you have to wear more than a slicker, you obviously don't know what you're doing.
LARRY: What's a slicker?
DAVID: The only garment anyone should ever need if they actually want to get things done while it's raining.
SIMON: Oh, I don't know. It doesn't rain here that often, and if it looks like it might, I can always just use an umbrella.
DAVID, LARRY: An umbrella? Why would anyone want to use a manual umbrella?
LARRY: Try holding on to an umbrella with one hand and ropin' a calf with the other, see if a dust devil don't pick you up and set you down face-first on a saguaro.
DAVID: I cannot imagine why anyone would ever use an umbrella. That's what the magic garment manufacturers are for. Do you sew together your furs with catgut and a whalebone needle too?
DENNIS: Actually, seal fur is pretty warm...
CLIFF: Guys its not even rainning this week.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:22

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Dr. Honked posted:

i don't know but they all smell bad

they chain smoke

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:44

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Phone posted:

just in case any of you were wondering, cobol has no intrinsic absolute value function

name a business activity where you would ever need one

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:47

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Gazpacho posted:

they chain smoke

yep. when i met rotor I held out on smoking around him for a few hours but eventually cracked and oh god i couldn't stop

# ? Mar 11, 2013 21:49

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Gazpacho posted:

Companies have invested billions of dollars in these systems.

only reason why cobol is still around

# ? Mar 11, 2013 22:17

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

YOSPOS: If you don't wear at least three layers every time you exit the compound, you will literally die. A leopard seal will rend the frozen flesh from your popsicle bones.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 22:30

ymgve: Jan 2, 2004; Offensive Clock

just watched an hour of tef talking without realizing it was tef

thanks, reddit

# ? Mar 11, 2013 23:02

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Bream posted:

LARRY: What's a slicker?
DAVID: The only garment anyone should ever need if they actually want to get things done while it's raining.

fake, nobody wears rain gear in seattle except paid outdoor workers and children

# ? Mar 11, 2013 23:08

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

im writing a thing which as of right now utilizes rethinkdb. im gay.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 23:28

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

ymgve posted:

just watched an hour of tef talking without realizing it was tef

thanks, reddit

wait is that actually tef? i saw "Programming is terrible" as a reddit headline and decided there was no way it was actually anything worthwhile because reddit.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 23:30

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 11:46

Bream: Feb 3, 2013; Farmer's Barket

ultramiraculous posted:

wait is that actually tef? i saw "Programming is terrible" as a reddit headline and decided there was no way it was actually anything worthwhile because reddit.

Oh man, that thread... tef, you deserve a medal for even attempting to be civil with that crowd.

# ? Mar 11, 2013 23:33

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