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Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Lilli posted:

So, I decided to try the nuke the tutorial people for the first time. One of them has more htan a thousand HP apparently. So I savescummed and went and got a second nuke, and I'm repeatedly save scumming to try and see if I can actually kill her. However, anyway I try to set off both nukes doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any advice on what I'm supposed to do, or just give up and move on.

I dunno, it worked perfectly for me... they both just died instantly. Maybe the most recent update changed something? Maybe I just got lucky? Some other guy said he was having the same problem.

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FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Only took one nuke for me, too.

Also, what's the best way to stop going insane due to eating human meat?

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
It worked when I made a new game. I'm pretty sure the one with the dagger in my game just had +life armor or something.

Sociopastry posted:

Only took one nuke for me, too.

Also, what's the best way to stop going insane due to eating human meat?

Mutate!

maketakunai
Jan 11, 2006

What do you mean,
"it's only a game"?!

Lilli posted:

So, I decided to try the nuke the tutorial people for the first time. One of them has more htan a thousand HP apparently. So I savescummed and went and got a second nuke, and I'm repeatedly save scumming to try and see if I can actually kill her. However, anyway I try to set off both nukes doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any advice on what I'm supposed to do, or just give up and move on.

drat, using a second nuke was just a guess, I didn't know if it would actually work. Sounds like it won't this time around :( If you can deal damage to her before the first nuke goes off it might drop her under 1000 but that might be too hard at this point in the game.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Verviticus posted:

If you eat an item that has "maintains [stat]" you get a bonus to increasing it and if it gives + to a stat you get a fraction of that as well, but do you get a bonus for things like "enhances travelling"?

Stats only, not skills or resists. Still, shoes are cheap and so are inferior material scrolls. Be careful eating artifacts, stat penalties abuse stats as much as a bonus would train them.

dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 06:51 on May 4, 2013

dancingbears
May 10, 2011

You're an idiot,
so start acting
like one.

I haven't played Elona since just before development stopped. Gonna have to try out this neat new Elona+ thing.

Sociopastry posted:

Also, what's the best way to stop going insane due to eating human meat?

Eat human flesh until you like it. (The things this game makes you say...) You should get a message saying you are charmed by human flesh, and then all human meat is delicious to you, even rotten or badly cooked meat.

Alternately, it's a random mutation. Drink potions of evolution.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

maketakunai posted:

drat, using a second nuke was just a guess, I didn't know if it would actually work. Sounds like it won't this time around :( If you can deal damage to her before the first nuke goes off it might drop her under 1000 but that might be too hard at this point in the game.

It's pretty easy to get back to that stage. I just savescummed a wish and got the boots again. This game is gonna screw me one way or another it might as well not be in the first fifteen minutes.

Is an archer a viable lategame style of play or did I screw myself 0 minutes in

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Not being in up in an enemy's grill is pretty much the endgame playstyle. Weapon damage scales up really, really high as you level stuff up.

Gunning with laser guns works really well. There's a drat good one that is a guaranteed drop from a boss you can kill around level 30 if you plan well. All other ranged weapons have finicky range penalties, but lasers are full strength except at the farthest they can shoot.

dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 07:09 on May 4, 2013

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

I got the Likes Eating Human Flesh mutation from a well, then lost it that night while sleeping. :(

Twenty Drunk Apes
Jun 17, 2012

The mane you say? Please note that this is a pity avatar because even bronies feel sorry for this poster so :effort:.
When the OP says that the Catgod race is "deeply broken", does it mean in a bad way, or a good way?

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

If you're asking whether the brokenness is in your favour, then yes I believe so. Their speed is loving 500 and they have a bunch of evasion skills.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Catgod

Woden
May 6, 2006
A good way, they have 500 speed(the best stat), excellent potential in their attributes, decent HP and are only missing a couple of inventory slots.

Personally I think mutants are the best race, with a decent riding skill you can ride round on a T-Rex and tear stuff up.

Twenty Drunk Apes
Jun 17, 2012

The mane you say? Please note that this is a pity avatar because even bronies feel sorry for this poster so :effort:.
Well now I'm tempted to give it a whirl, but I don't want to abandon Duke Buddy Dongfang Shitiing either. :(

Twenty Drunk Apes fucked around with this message at 18:21 on May 4, 2013

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

What does it mean when equipment is 'singing'?

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Catgod is deeply broken in the most boring way possible. You're insanely fast but everything in the game is designed around people who end up maybe half your speed at very high levels while mounted. You will starve to death doing the simplest things because the shops and quests don't refill fast enough and you don't have the anatomy to live off corpses early on. You will get 5+ actions per enemy turn and have the other stats to back that up.


Corridor posted:

What does it mean when equipment is 'singing'?

It has a few random modifiers on it. Basically a weak randart. Same with enchanted, howling and servant's.

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

Corridor posted:

What does it mean when equipment is 'singing'?

Those are affixes that usually show up on "Great" quality gear, and it means it has some kind of magical bonus. Despite its name, it's not always to performance, though! The affixes are often pretty random for the bonuses they give.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

You are a nerd posted:

Is there a world map for elona+ floating around anywhere? Seems like they changed at least the trees enough that I can't find my current treasure map location anywhere on the vanilla map, which is all google turns up.

I believe trees are slightly randomized when it isn't the forest, but rocks and flower fields aren't. I'm not totally sure on it but I'd swear I've had them change from game to game. Might just be Elona to Elona+ loving me up, though.

Twenty Drunk Apes posted:

When the OP says that the Catgod race is "deeply broken", does it mean in a bad way, or a good way?

In a bad way. 500 Speed sounds hilarious and it definitely is, but it carries a bunch of annoying problems. It's boring because nothing can touch you, you won't be able to train Armor or Evasion, your pets won't get to do much of anything, and whenever you're stuck somewhere (Party Time, Etherwind, waiting for a shop to restock) you'll be waiting 5 times as long as other characters and have to stock up food to match.

Corridor posted:

What does it mean when equipment is 'singing'?

IIRC it's one of several adjectives that generally mean the modifiers on that weapon are better than usual. It's sort of a step up from normal gear, but one step below Miracle.

Stelas fucked around with this message at 08:10 on May 4, 2013

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Another question: in Elona+ I sometimes get a weird little graphical effect like a shining silver wire flashing across my head. It happens when I kill public performers, or dog enemies. My little girl gets them too. It's fully consistent with the killing of these enemies, and (I think) nothing else. What the hell is it?

Also :mad: at my magic shield that gives massive buffs to Two-handed skill.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Pretty sure that's a critical hit.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Corridor posted:


Also :mad: at my magic shield that gives massive buffs to Two-handed skill.

You can give this to any pet asuras or other pet four-armed creatures you may acquire in the future.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Corridor posted:

Another question: in Elona+ I sometimes get a weird little graphical effect like a shining silver wire flashing across my head.

dis astranagant posted:

Pretty sure that's a critical hit.

If it looks like a heartbeat symbol, then that's you gaining AP by killing something more powerful than you. You won't be able to spend them for nigh-on forever.

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Stelas posted:

If it looks like a heartbeat symbol, then that's you gaining AP by killing something more powerful than you. You won't be able to spend them for nigh-on forever.

Yeah, now you mention it, the thing looks like a hospital pulse monitor thing.

Spoggerific
May 28, 2009
Is there any way to get platinum that's faster than quests? Doing a bunch of delivery/escort quests at a time is pretty easy, but when there are a dozen skills I want to learn and they all cost 15+3 platinum per skill, it gets expensive really fast.

I'm also not sure what I should really do once I get the skills I want. Trying out things like museums, farms, and houses sounds fun, but I have no idea where to start.

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Worship the new god, apparently it gives you a platpooping goose.

The farming and hunting quests are way easier in Elona+ than they were in vanilla Elona, in that they are actually doable now. I racked up like 10 plat coins just going through all the farming quests in Yowyn.

Woden
May 6, 2006
Quests are the fastest way I've found, not sure if it's only for high level quests but I've been getting 3 per Part Time! Those quests get me 20-60k GP from all the gold getting thrown, the occasional small medal and some NPC cards when someone drinks the wrong potion or when someone goes on a rampage.

Harvests seem good too as it boosts a lot of stats, slower gain on plat or gold though.

Basically just keep doing certain quests types til you get bored and switch it up to a different one.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

If you invest heavily in magic shops (like 100+ in all the ones you frequent) you can sometimes skip the plat and buy scrolls of growth to bless up and use, but I don't know of any ways to generate them reliably.

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

dis astranagant posted:

If you invest heavily in magic shops (like 100+ in all the ones you frequent) you can sometimes skip the plat and buy scrolls of growth to bless up and use, but I don't know of any ways to generate them reliably.

That's pretty much it - keep a set of magic stores and goods stores (I like to use Palmia/Vernis/Yowyn/House in a rough box-shape) and invest them like crazy.

When you hit high levels of fame, you'll end up with quests that give multiple platinum. Some people recommend tanking fame to make the game easier, but grinding up fame is so slow that I wouldn't recommend it.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Been trying to give a performer a try and by god perform takes eras to raise. Been doing the whole catsister thing to gather a billion people to listen all at once and it's STILL not going up very fast if at all. This game can well and truly have some audacious grind.

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

ProfessorCirno posted:

Been trying to give a performer a try and by god perform takes eras to raise. Been doing the whole catsister thing to gather a billion people to listen all at once and it's STILL not going up very fast if at all. This game can well and truly have some audacious grind.

Since exponential decay of training potential has been removed in 1.19, I guess there's no longer any downside to just putting your Performance potential to 400% with a pile of platinum. That'll probably make it go real fast.

edit: Okay, so your potential will reduce slightly faster than if you were training the skill with a lower potential, meaning less efficiency (you lose 10% of the potential every time the skill ranks up). The real problem was still that putting potential up past 120% or so was incredibly meager gains for the platinum you paid.

Bleu fucked around with this message at 09:56 on May 4, 2013

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
What's the difference between a banana and a banana+2? Obviously one's better, but I can't really tell why. More filling?

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

dis astranagant posted:

If you invest heavily in magic shops (like 100+ in all the ones you frequent) you can sometimes skip the plat and buy scrolls of growth to bless up and use, but I don't know of any ways to generate them reliably.

Save before you talk to a merchant after enough time has passed that they need to restock. If you don't like what they have, stop talking to them and reload.

Yeah, that's probably not what you were thinking of, but gosh darnit it helps me out when I have something specific in mind!

MSPaintClock
Dec 30, 2006

FF7 rules.
The game decided during a quest that I needed to spontaneously combust, gently caress you game.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Save before you talk to a merchant after enough time has passed that they need to restock. If you don't like what they have, stop talking to them and reload.

Yeah, that's probably not what you were thinking of, but gosh darnit it helps me out when I have something specific in mind!

At least high levels of alchemy will let you make potions of potential so getting your stat potentials out of the gutter isn't too bad.

Lilli
Feb 21, 2011

Goodbye, my child.
If I drop something in a town and leave for a while. Will it still be there when I come back, or does it disappear after a period of time?

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

It'll vanish eventually. If it's something like food or gems, maybe even while you're still in town.

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...

Twenty Drunk Apes posted:

Well now I'm tempted to give it a whirl, but I don't want to abandom Duke Buddy Dongfang Shitiing either. :(

You're better off rolling a catsister instead. They're still ridiculously fast but no overwhelmingly so, and their low health means they're somewhat challenging to play because of how easily they can die if they're actually hit.

Office Thug
Jan 17, 2008

Luke Cage just shut you down!
Welp I decided to try that nuke thing, got the bomb, and it weighs more than a jumbo jet apparently. How do you actually move it?

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Pick it up, try to move, get crushed to death in the process, respawn at home holding it.

Office Thug
Jan 17, 2008

Luke Cage just shut you down!

dis astranagant posted:

Pick it up, try to move, get crushed to death in the process, respawn at home holding it.

:doh: That makes sense.

I got back home and used it and killed that Lomias guy but the other one was still alive. I tried savescumming a few times but no dice. Guess I need to use 2 bombs one after the other then?

Edit: I can't kill that Larnneire person. I even tried rerolling a new character, no dice.

Office Thug fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 4, 2013

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Agnostalgia
Dec 22, 2009
Also, if you're a pianist and you drop your piano, you should be able to move while carrying the nuke.


e: Okay, that's a weird sentence out of context.

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